101. Analysis of SB 733: 'LA Science Education Act'

Comment #191749 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 3:33 pm

They already have academic freedom to teach ID/cretinism ... at Sunday School/Church ... what is their f'ing problem?!

I propose that a rider be attached to this bill requiring the cessation into perpetuity of the following in Louisiana: pickup drivin', crayfish eatin', mosquito slappin', football watchin', frog giggin', coon assin', pirotin', Tobasco eatin', shotgunnin', bass fishin', with-cousin procreatin', ad nauseum, etc. See if it passes then.

102. Court Claim: Chimps Are People, Too

Comment #191583 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 9:08 am

"chimpanzees that have outlived their usefulness" ... therein lies a/the problem ... When does a chimp outlive its usefulness? To whom? Who decides when a chimp is useful or not? For lack of a better term, isn't a chimp's life just as "sacred" as a human life? Yes, we humans absolutely need a change of attitude about the other life forms on this planet. I'm not sure that declaring a chimp to be human in a legalistic sense is the way to do it, however. But, whatever works ...

103. Regime change in heaven

Comment #191578 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 8:59 am

Silly, silly, silly ...

104. New British Petition: Stop the Nightmares

Comment #191574 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 8:55 am

Hell exists. It exists in the actions, proclamations, threats and abuse of the hell-fire-and-damnation fundamentalists.

105. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190808 by Border Collie on June 9, 2008 at 3:44 pm

This guy can add to his resume ...

Extensive experience in beating dead horses.

106. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190802 by Border Collie on June 9, 2008 at 3:22 pm

I'm LMAO at your responses to this idiotic article ... Luckily, classicfm started playing Mozart's Requiem about the time I started reading the article; however, I did feel as if I was committing some sort of sacrilege by listening to Mozart and reading religiogarbage at the same time. The juxtaposition reminded me of an old Texas saying ... "... looked like turkey s&%t on yellow shoes." Still LMAO ...!!!

Has anyone ever done a study on how closely linked the idea of a "creator", as in omnipotent technologist, is with the advent of the industrial revolution and or other more primitive technologies? The YECs can't seem to get away from the "somebody had to make it" thing ...

Storms a comin' ... I'm going to look out into the back yard and see if a 747 gets assembled ... I HAVE seen hot dogs created in the back yard when the sun comes out ... but, they cool down when I let them in.

107. John McCain: America a Christian nation, needs Christian president

Comment #190247 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 4:00 pm

I'm voting for my dog.

108. Albinos, Long Shunned, Face Threat in Tanzania

Comment #190139 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:43 pm

So albinos join the ranks of rhino horn, tiger bone and bear gall bladder. I should have stayed in bed today.

109. Prayer to feed the hungry

Comment #190134 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Reminds me of an old joke:

Preacher stopped his car by the farmer's new, beautiful field of corn and said, "Farmer, it looks like you and God have done a really beautiful job this year and God is blessing you with a very good crop."

Farmer said, while wiping the sweat from his brow, "You should have seen it when God had it."

110. Couple charged in Norway over genital mutilation of daughters

Comment #190129 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Doesn't matter what religion it is or isn't. It's still pathological behavior. Probably Abrahamic, however, probably Muslim. Why PC pretend otherwise? Destroying or partially destroying a girls sexual identity is a good start on destroying her whole identity. Maybe someday the fear of female genitalia and females in general by primitives will cease. Hey, I know it's the whole snake in the garden with Eve issue (and probably some other archaic stuff). So what? It's just symbolism. It isn't real/literal. Let's outgrow it. Damn, leave the girls alone! I'd bet that if a few million penises were removed in certain parts of the world and eye or two would begin to open.

111. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190115 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:06 pm

mordacious1 ... None of the above ... Texan ... however, my ancestors are from the UK ... not enough time or distance to become a separate species yet, though ... maybe I'm mistaken, but were you referring to me sailing? ... can't be me ... I don't even have a boat or or an ocean ... I'm confused ... maybe I should just watch TV today ...

112. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190024 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 8:35 am

thewhitepearl ... sounds like we had/have some similar relatives ... strange how many brilliant (I'd think a geophysisist would be at least somewhat brilliant) people have or need a measure of fantasy in their lives ... many of my relatives had said similar outrageous things ... I used to argue with them. Now, I just stare at them and keep on eatin' my fried chicken ... Honk if you love Jesus ...

113. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #190023 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 8:26 am

I'm sooooo glad some of you are from Texas. I don't feel so alone any longer. I've been a square peg for so long, I'd given up. You guys have a great Sunday. I'm going to go do something religious ... like walk my border collie, ride my bicycle or practice katas or all of the above. And, you guys in the UK, please blow some cool air toward Texas.

114. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #190020 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 7:48 am

nancyjesse ... I'm glad you've been fortunate enough to not have any adverse actions against you. On the other hand, given the normal everyday rush hour blood and guts carnage in the Dallas area, the wackos probalby just don't have the time for the extra excitement of shooting at atheists ... given the predominance of sanctimonious types with shootin' irons over here in Cowtown, I think I'll just not put an atheist bumper sticker or Darwin "fish" on my buckboard ...

RamziD ... yes, Austin is a different planet. I graduated from UT. It's an alien oasis of some sort, like it should be in California or something. Maybe aliens brought it to Earth just to keep us confused.

mordacious1 & epeeist ... read that one incorrectly ... GOD FORGIVE ME that I thought epeeist was from Texas! Aw, hell, we're mostly from the UK anyway ... just a few thousand miles and a few hundred years removed. And, mordacious1, shame on you ... insulting moles like that!

thewhitepearl ... Now, if I were on the road and people were honking and weird-staring, I'd KNOW that it was about the bumper sticker or the Darwin "fish" ... that's all I'm gonna say ...

Troll, spam, offensive? What, is this a popularity contest? Troll, wasn't that something from a Monty Python movie?

I love you guys!

115. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190016 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 7:36 am

You guys are wonderful! I love the comments. Sorry, mordacious1 & epeeist, I misread something ... it's thewhitepearl who's from Dallas (woo hoo!) ... no Texas in England ... you know how cixelsyd Texans are. Suffering ... didn't the Buddhists address that a long time ago? OK, pretend I'm a cretinist ... God created a perfect universe, etc., but as a cretinist, I want only the good stuff, the pleasure and blame the bad stuff on Satan. Sorry, you have to grab el toro by BOTH horns and stare him in the eye. "Hellmouth" ... nothing but a newer name for the "maw of Kali" from Hindu mythology. I'm going back to bed.

116. Faith no more as World Youth Day fans flames of disbelief

Comment #189839 by Border Collie on June 7, 2008 at 10:54 am

"dubious grasp of theology"?! What?! I have a fantastic grasp of theology. I was raised as a screamer Southern Baptist fundamentalist and have read widely in Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism
and fairly widely in basic Western and Eastern mythologies. Sorry, but I think RD has a very good grasp of theology in that he's sees it with clearer eyes than any theologian can. I probably have a pretty poor grasp of fairyology, but so what? I did see the movie "Photographing Faries", however and thought it was pretty cute.

"It is important not to cause offence, when so many people believe ..." Pardon me? It seems that is when it's exactly the time to "cause offence". For myself, if I'm skewing off in some idiotic direction (which I probably do on a fairly regular basis), I want someone to "offend" me by pointing it out to me. If I was afraid to "offend" my karate students by putting a bruise on their ribs once in a while, they wouldn't really know how to defend themselves in a life/death situation. So, hey, if truth offends, so be it.

117. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #189815 by Border Collie on June 7, 2008 at 10:25 am

Wow, I'm surprised at the Texans here! Maybe we're all worn out from dealing with the irrational incessantly repressive/oppressive religiosity of the area and need a place to express ourselves. Seriously, I'd be afraid to have, say, an "atheist" bumper sticker here (Fort Worth); I'm certain I'd be shot at and or my car would be vandalized. Anyway, a small, short-term victory is good. However, the wingnuts run deep here, so don't expect them to go away. Who else is a Texan besides epeeist? I thought I was the only one!

118. Stupid flies live longer: study

Comment #189567 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Bad news, I guess the fundamentalists are going to out live us.

119. The Expelled Evolutionist

Comment #189562 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:46 pm

Don't waste your time arguing with Christians. Don't waste your money on Expelled.

120. Blogger spreads the gospel of science

Comment #189556 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:28 pm

Sorry, but ID is NOT an "alternative theory" to evolution ... that's like saying astrology is alternative to astronomy ... well, maybe for idiots ...

121. Hints of 'time before Big Bang'

Comment #189553 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Bruno, you are not alone ...

122. Male circumcision is a weapon in the sperm wars

Comment #189550 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Or maybe it's just a bunch of insane crap perpetrated by ignorant people ...

123. The day of judgment

Comment #189538 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 12:40 pm

"the dominion of peace, under Islam" ... gotta love that one ...

David Koresh and the Branch Davidians ... what a frigging waste of manpower and tax dollars taking them down! Nobody gave a damn what they were doing except the FBI, the ATF and other similar enforcement agencies. I mean, what were the Davidians going to do, conquer the Earth? Once the do-nothing enforcement agencies got into it and started mouthing off, a high school psychology student could have predicted the horrible outcome. They could have paid me the millions of dollars they paid (wasted) all those enforcement wankers to stand around and eat doughnuts for 51 days and I could have captured Koresh, by myself, when he went to get his Egg McMuffin and coffee one morning.

124. Opponents of Evolution Adopting a New Strategy

Comment #189058 by Border Collie on June 5, 2008 at 9:51 am

When Texas (my state) starts handing out graduate degrees in creation "science", I'm leaving. So, it appears that Texas education is still designed to reinforce ignorance, just like it has always done.

125. Darwin still causing waves after 150 years

Comment #189054 by Border Collie on June 5, 2008 at 9:40 am

JLD Calgary ... read "Origin" ... If I can do it, you can do it. Don't look for quick, easy answers ...

126. The Great Evangelical Decline

Comment #188791 by Border Collie on June 4, 2008 at 2:43 pm

The decline is not apparent in Fort Worth where Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is; however, I'm sure there is at least a little wailing and gnashing of teeth over this ...

I've been telling the fundies for 28 years that the conservative politicians didn't give a damn about them ... they only wanted their votes and money ... but, spitting into the wind pretty much described the effectiveness of such ...

127. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #188650 by Border Collie on June 4, 2008 at 10:32 am

Neither science nor religion is simply going to hand meaning to us. Don't expect it or them to do so. We have to find that for ourselves. Joseph Campbell said that the predominant cultural mythology has to keep up with science, not the other way around, and that if it doesn't, it becomes obsolete. So, here we are.

Seems that in Texas, the public schools really avoid teaching critical thinking and focus on indoctrination and entertainment.

128. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #188645 by Border Collie on June 4, 2008 at 10:20 am

I loved the "silly question" part ... RD sounded just like a Zen master of old ... and even though he has a rep as being "difficult", he's one of most diplomatic speakers I've ever heard ... as evidence by his answers to many of the questions in this Q & A ... and please, now don't everyone get your panties in a wad because I compared RD to a Zen master ... Buddhism is not a religion in the usual sense ... and his response was extremely similar to many responses I've read from ZM's to similar questions ...

129. The Challenge of the New Creationism

Comment #188246 by Border Collie on June 3, 2008 at 12:35 pm

I'm with you "uhtred" ... daaaamn ...!

130. Ben Stein 1, Yoko Ono 0 in 'Expelled' copyright spat

Comment #188095 by Border Collie on June 3, 2008 at 8:11 am

The way to fight Expelled is to not spend even one red cent to go see it ... ever. If you spend money to go see this movie, you're validating it, no matter how negative your opinion of it.

131. Put a Little Science in Your Life

Comment #187649 by Border Collie on June 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

I was one of those kids ... studying astronomy at 5 or 6, fascinated with the natural world around me. Then I started public school in Texas. And, with a fundamentalist mother, that bright, curious child died. Good news is ... fifty years later, I'm back on track. Thanks everyone on this site!

132. Physicist Claims First Real Demonstration of Cold Fusion

Comment #187632 by Border Collie on June 2, 2008 at 11:59 am

If it's real it will be reproducible and verifiable by many ...

133. When two worlds collide: threat of class warfare over faith-based schooling

Comment #187625 by Border Collie on June 2, 2008 at 11:52 am

I'm in Texas, not Aussieland, but the issues are "similar". Hey, I'm all for religious expression if that's what someone wants to do ... just DO IT IN CHURCH! Keep your religious agendas out of the public schools! However, from what I can tell, nothing is being taught or learned in public schools anyway. They seem to be only concerned with teaching political correctness, sensitivity, cultural relativism, etc. The three R's, science, geography, English, etc. went out the door decades ago. I'm really not in the mood for another dark age, but whatever.

134. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #187221 by Border Collie on June 1, 2008 at 2:21 pm

The more I hear/see RD speak, the more I feel as if he's speaking to infants, given that he addresses the same childish questions over and over and over ... I hope there will be someone to take his place when he quits public speaking ... maybe consciousness is being raised, but one can't tell it in Texas ...

135. Teacher tortures, kills boy

Comment #186882 by Border Collie on May 31, 2008 at 3:53 pm

This is not about a kid not learning what was required of him. This is about the pathology of the teacher and the system he and the boy both lived in. The Islamic thing is simply a huge death cult ... like most cults. Part of the fear the Islamists have of the West is that we are exposing the ghoulish aspects of Islam. No cult wants to be exposed. They do not want to have to look at their own behavior.

136. Group wants Wi-Fi banned from public buildings

Comment #186799 by Border Collie on May 31, 2008 at 10:24 am

Going to Santa Fe is like going back to the late '60's ... before cell phones & wi fi ... maybe they could be given vaccinations ... cosmic, Dude ...

137. 'Uncontacted tribe' sighted in Amazon

Comment #186795 by Border Collie on May 31, 2008 at 10:19 am

If history tells us anything, it tells us that they won't be left alone. And, most likely, they'll be destroyed by being "protected".

138. Karma comedians

Comment #186750 by Border Collie on May 31, 2008 at 8:54 am

Firstly, it wasn't a statement. It was a question. Who cares what Sharon Stone says or asks or believes? So, now, 1 billion people see her as the "enemy of mankind". Good grief, what a bunch of whiners and milk sops. OMG! What will people think? Please, someone call a waaaambulance! Do something, work out, get a life!

139. Teacher tortures, kills boy

Comment #186745 by Border Collie on May 31, 2008 at 8:42 am

I really hate taking issue with any of you guys over anything. You're all very intelligent and I'm very glad that this site exists and I thoroughly enjoy reading the comments ... however... We can't generalize from it? Strictly speaking, that's true. We can reduce anything to the ridiculous. That is, on some level we can't generalize anything. Considering, however, that this is not an isolated incident, but one of hundreds or thousands or relatively similar incidents that have a common root, I think a little generalization might be in order. Symptoms of a pathology are not isolated incidents. A legalistic, nitpicky approach just keeps one blind. But, I guess we can pick the fly shit out of the pepper until we're all sitting around chanting "Allah Akbar", singing "Koom Bay Yah" and roasting marshmallows. And, please, don't hold your breath waiting for the Pakistani government to improve things.

140. 1968 Supreme Court case of Epperson v. Arkansas

Comment #185971 by Border Collie on May 29, 2008 at 9:24 am

Who is squelching ID & Creationism? Where is it being squelched? There are, what, at least tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of churches in the US? Hey, GO TO CHURCH if you want to learn about ID & Creationism. Who cares? But, if you want to teach ID or Creationism in public schools then you also have to teach Evolution in church. OK? Fine.

First time I've seen/heard Rev. Lynn. I love it when Rev's are smarter than the lawyers ... I'm glad he's on our side. Watching Sisson talk about ID reminds me of watching Condoleeza Rice talk about WMD's. However, it is very worrisome that millions of fundamentalist dollars are hiring lawyers to get into this fray. Damn, puke, cough, choke ... I LOVED the bronto/elephant thing!

141. We happy hooligans

Comment #185829 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 6:10 pm

Richard Dawkins is a "rude upstart"? I mean, hell, RD will admit that people get pissed off at him, but "upstart"?! Calling RD an upstart is like the villian shooting the cute little dog in a Hollywood western. It would take a fundamentalist to say something that stupid. And, I guess Einstein was a pubescent physicist. Seems that when their tiny little brains get overloaded, name calling comes to the forefront ... a common trait of four year olds.

142. 1968 Supreme Court case of Epperson v. Arkansas

Comment #185827 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 5:54 pm

Does anyone know how to make RealPlayer not time out every 2-3 minutes? I can't watch this thing. And, yes, I've updated everything.

143. Louisiana's latest creationism bill moves to House floor

Comment #185705 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 10:26 am

I hope you guys don't mind ... I use the word play of "cretinism" to cover "Creationism" and "Intellectual Disaster" to cover "ID". It's slightly easier to write (it's two letters shorter) and, to me, it is somewhat more descriptive of the associated mind set; however, I do lose ground on the ID thing. I know that the vast majority of you are very intelligent and had already caught on. But, forgive me, I'm from Texas where the jokes have to be explained.

144. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #185693 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 10:09 am

I thought Canada was a very open minded sort of place. Seems odd that it should be where the thought and word police take root and start shutting down open mindedness and free speech. Pathology does always take the insidious route, doesn't it? I've always wanted to visit Canada, but I think I've changed my mind.
I don't know about you guys, but the phrase and word "human rights" and "tribunal" just don't seem to go together to me ... rather like a Nazi bar mitzva or an evolutionary Christian or Muslim tolerance ...

145. Car dealership advert tells atheists to 'shut up'

Comment #185685 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 9:56 am

Expecting a Ford dealership to show intelligence is like expecting a toad to quote Shakesphere ... Now, if we were Muslim atheists, everyone would be afraid to say anything negative about us.

146. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #185680 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 9:50 am

Remember, Islam is a religion of of peace. The bombings, shootings, plane crashes, beheadings, kidnappings, riots, burnings, rocket attacks, etc. are just our imagination.
Bye, bye, Canada.

147. Louisiana's latest creationism bill moves to House floor

Comment #185672 by Border Collie on May 28, 2008 at 9:40 am

I'm surprised to learn that they have schools in Louisiana. If they want to learn about cretinism and or Intellectual Disaster, GO TO CHURCH!

148. Religion is a product of evolution, software suggests

Comment #185268 by Border Collie on May 27, 2008 at 10:03 am

Collective and individual awe gone bad ...
Yea, yea, I know the YECs take it all literally. That doesn't mean we have to take their literalness literally. Otherwise, we're playing their game ... being as stupid as they are. It's all metaphor, similie, symbol, etc. Let go, move on.

149. Top 6 Incestuous Relationships In The Bible

Comment #185262 by Border Collie on May 27, 2008 at 9:49 am

Silly, silly, silly ...

150. Richard Dawkins lecture at ASU's Tempe Campus

Comment #185247 by Border Collie on May 27, 2008 at 8:59 am

Surgical.
What difference does it make whether Dr. Dawkins has ever studied theology or not? Like studying fantasy makes it more real? Isn't studying reality enough? Seems to me it is.
Yea, we need more stats on religion & war. Five thousand years of anecdotal evidence isn't enough? Whatever.