101. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #262935 by lastgreekstanding on October 9, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Caudimordax,
What's your point?
McCain's a prick, Obama's -- what? Smart?
Hate that!
Unfortunately, the "bailout" was sort of necessary due to Reagan's deregulation.
102. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #262924 by lastgreekstanding on October 9, 2008 at 8:04 pm
al-rawandi said,
The funny thing is that McCain was in NO danger while imprisoned in Hanoi. His father and grandfather were admirals, the Vietnamese were certainly not going to kill little Johnny, no matter what happened.
You might enjoy this:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print
Make Believe Maverick.
McCain was busy fucking up and chasing strippers, then he got shot down.
103. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #262594 by lastgreekstanding on October 9, 2008 at 12:25 am
Bonzai,
You know what is funny?
The Vietnam war was a war of aggression and the carpet bombing of rice paddies and civilians was a war crime. Here you have a war criminal who went on a bombing mission, got shot down and sat out the war in a POW camp, everyone thinks he is a "war hero" and supposedly that is a qualification for the Presidency.
104. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #260173 by lastgreekstanding on October 4, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Laurie Fraser,
Her performance on the debate was one of the most dismal I've seen by any politician, anytime.
At least three times last night, Sarah Palin, the adorable, preposterous vice-presidential candidate, winked at the audience. Had a male candidate with a similar reputation for attractive vapidity made such a brazen attempt to flirt his way into the good graces of the voting public, it would have universally noted, discussed and mocked. Palin, however, has single-handedly so lowered the standards both for female candidates and American political discourse that, with her newfound ability to speak in more-or-less full sentences, she is now deemed to have performed acceptably last night.
By any normal standard, including the ones applied to male presidential candidates of either party, she did not. Early on, she made the astonishing announcement that she had no intentions of actually answering the queries put to her. "I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also," she said.
And so she preceded, with an almost surreal disregard for the subjects she was supposed to be discussing, to unleash fusillades of scripted attack lines, platitudes, lies, gibberish and grating references to her own pseudo-folksy authenticity.
It was an appalling display. The only reason it was not widely described as such is that too many American pundits don't even try to judge the truth, wisdom or reasonableness of the political rhetoric they are paid to pronounce upon. Instead, they imagine themselves as interpreters of a mythical mass of "average Americans" who they both venerate and despise.
...
That her performance was considered anything but a farce doesn't show how high Palin has risen, but how low we all have sunk.
105. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #260161 by lastgreekstanding on October 4, 2008 at 7:42 pm
DarwinsPitbull,
Her policies on government, taxes, the war on terror, and the economy is what matters to me, not her views on science.
106. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #260127 by lastgreekstanding on October 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Nairb,
Maybe I misunderstood but Hezbollah has not been kicked out of Lebannon.
Not by USA, Not by France, Not by Israel and Not by Syria.
I think anyone who knows anything about Labannon knows this. So I am abit surprised by Bidens remarks.
107. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #259777 by lastgreekstanding on October 3, 2008 at 11:34 pm
From the Biden, Palin debate (courtesy of CNN---the Corporate News Network):
PALIN: Israel is in jeopardy of course when we're dealing with Ahmadinejad as a leader of Iran. Iran claiming that Israel, as he termed it, a stinking corpse, a country that should be wiped off the face of the earth. Now a leader like Ahmadinejad who is not sane or stable when he says things like that is not one whom we can allow to acquire nuclear energy, nuclear weapons.
Israel is our strongest and best ally in the Middle East. We have got to assure them that we will never allow a second Holocaust, despite, again, warnings from Iran and any other country that would seek to destroy Israel, that that is what they would like to see.
We will support Israel. A two-state solution, building our embassy, also, in Jerusalem, those things that we look forward to being able to accomplish, with this peace-seeking nation, and they have a track record of being able to forge these peace agreements.
It's got to be a commitment of the United States of America, though. And I can promise you, in a McCain-Palin administration, that commitment is there to work with our friends in Israel
BIDEN: Gwen, no one in the United States Senate has been a better friend to Israel than Joe Biden. I would have never, ever joined this ticket were I not absolutely sure Barack Obama shared my passion.
PALIN: I'm so encouraged to know that we both love Israel, and I think that is a good thing to get to agree on, Sen. Biden.
BIDEN: When we kicked -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."
108. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #258222 by lastgreekstanding on October 1, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Happy belated Rosh Hashanah to all the Jewish members here---especially to those "responsible" Jewish members of Congress who put religion ahead of the public interest by staying away from the House on Monday.
When I get the chance (hopefully later tonight), I will reply to what al-rawandi said about me in this thread regarding Hezbollah and Hamas. Also, I'd like to comment on somenthing very interesting Steve Zara said about Fanusi Khiyal.
Later.
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109. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #244930 by lastgreekstanding on September 9, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Brandy---The US Government quickly whipped itself into socialist mode over the weekend and saved the largest mortgage lenders in the world, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Capitalism relied on socialism to bail itself out?
Laurie---That's an interesting comment, Brandy. It's remarkable how the bastions of big capital, always interested in privatising wealth, are ever so ready to socialise debt.
110. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #243899 by lastgreekstanding on September 7, 2008 at 5:58 pm
It is apparent that the system in place in the U.S is not working.
But to conclude that socialized medicine is the answer is not practical either.
111. Palin: average isn't good enough
Comment #243459 by lastgreekstanding on September 5, 2008 at 11:04 pm
LOL
Exhibit B: Chomsky was exposed as an neo-nazi defending, fabricator and exaggerator.
--->LOL
What do you think, Cartomancer? Do the above comments merit more than a three-letter acronym? Should I have ignored them instead? I considered it, but the person who posted them claims to have a degree in Middle East Studies.
134. A Holocaust Denier Hits Manhattan (And Hearts Hitchens)
Comment #222659 by lastgreekstanding on July 31, 2008 at 4:56 pm
ScarSick,
I repeat: Nothing that you posted proves or substantiates that Hitchens is a holocaust denier (a charge that the Anti-defamation league deems incorrect in regards to Mr. Hitchens.) It's all a bunch of heresay ). . .
. . . by Clintonoids' (Epstein) and the Left who believe Hitchens is a traitor (Cockburn/Chomsky/Finklestein/etc)
One last thing, if I seem to be directing attacks on you personally, I apologize. I realize you are just puting forth the claims by other men, so no hard feelings.
135. A Holocaust Denier Hits Manhattan (And Hearts Hitchens)
Comment #221996 by lastgreekstanding on July 30, 2008 at 12:21 pm
ScarSick,
Your cherrypicking. The full quotation is: "Irving is not just a Fascist historian. He is also a great historian of Fascism" Hitchens said this due to Irving's insight into the Churchill-Hitler relationship.
Here is Hitchens speaking on the manner:
"1) Edward J. Epstein himself gave the names of Anna Wintour and Brian
McNally as the only witnesses he could recall, to a statement that I never made.
And indeed, they were the only other guests I could remember at a dinner-table
that he attempted to crash. So their affirmative statements on my behalf
seemed to decide the matter.
2) The same allegation surfaced a few years later, in the mouth of Henry
Kissinger, and it has crossed my mind that Epstein may have been the
foul-mouthed whisperer in that case also. Be that as it may, anyone with the patience
to visit my website can read the ensuing correspondence between my lawyers and
Henry Kissinger's lawyers. They withdrew the allegation and promised not to
repeat it. Cockburn's standards are more relaxed: any old stick will do.
3) My long account of my view of, and experience of, David Irving is to be
found in my latest collection, entitled Love, Poverty and War and published by
Nation Books."
136. Obama Should Re-Think His Faith-Based Agenda
Comment #221562 by lastgreekstanding on July 29, 2008 at 7:18 pm
7. Comment #220458 by kkelly :
I have no respect for Obama's integrity.
137. A Holocaust Denier Hits Manhattan (And Hearts Hitchens)
Comment #221551 by lastgreekstanding on July 29, 2008 at 6:34 pm
122. Comment #220121 by al-rawandi:
I thought Hitchens had defended Irving's right to free speech. A stance which I share, despite the odious nature of his message
But apparently Hitchens made some other comments about the Holocaust which weren't so forgiveable.
Does anyone remember what those were?
138. A Holocaust Denier Hits Manhattan (And Hearts Hitchens)
Comment #219768 by lastgreekstanding on July 27, 2008 at 2:05 pm
BFKate,
CH: A chickenhawk warmonger who lets others fight the "worthy" cause.
Like Dick Cheney, CH may be a piece of shit but hardly stupid.
139. A Holocaust Denier Hits Manhattan (And Hearts Hitchens)
Comment #219577 by lastgreekstanding on July 27, 2008 at 9:04 am
Just wondering... If it's illegal to impersonate a police officer, shouldn't it be illegal to impersonate another professional also, for example, a historian?
140. Nine face stoning death in Iran
Comment #218022 by lastgreekstanding on July 24, 2008 at 9:11 pm
First: "Are there any takers?" "There" not "they." I slipped.
Comment #217968 by Goldy on July 24, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Where abouts in Canada do you live if I may ask?
I lived (past tense) in Alberta - Red Deer and then Brookes. I am in New Zealand now.
141. Nine face stoning death in Iran
Comment #217951 by lastgreekstanding on July 24, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Post 295 by al-rawandi---Just remember LGS is the very person who refused to condemn Hezbollah for stating that Jews spread AIDS. He first downplayed this saying that Hezbollah meant this was "unintentional" (like that matters).
al-rawandi---He is the very kind of person who apologizes for the people who behead humanitarian aid workers.
al-rawandi---Israel has rountinely foregone military operations because of the potential for loss of civilian lives (Arab lives).No, buffoon. The Israeli "defense" forces ROUTINELY engage in LOW INTENSITY WARFARE against both the Palestinians and Lebanese.
al-rawandi---Only a person with pathetic and disgusting morals would miss this distinction. George Carlin is not an authority on the matter, that is for sure. And guess what our ignorant friend LGS is no expert either, amateur jack off
Post 305 by Goldy---On a good note, we both heartily agree when it comes to LGS :-)
142. Nine face stoning death in Iran
Comment #217055 by lastgreekstanding on July 23, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Goldy,
:-)
Where abouts in Canada do you live if I may ask?
143. Nine face stoning death in Iran
Comment #217047 by lastgreekstanding on July 23, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Post 295 by al-rawandi---Just remember LGS is the very person who refused to condemn Hezbollah for stating that Jews spread AIDS. He first downplayed this saying that Hezbollah meant this was "unintentional" (like that matters).
al-rawandi---He is the very kind of person who apologizes for the people who behead humanitarian aid workers.
al-rawandi---Israel has rountinely foregone military operations because of the potential for loss of civilian lives (Arab lives).No, buffoon. The Israeli "defense" forces ROUTINELY engage in LOW INTENSITY WARFARE against both the Palestinians and Lebanese.
al-rawandi---Only a person with pathetic and disgusting morals would miss this distinction. George Carlin is not an authority on the matter, that is for sure. And guess what our ignorant friend LGS is no expert either, amateur jack off
Post 305 by Goldy---On a good note, we both heartily agree when it comes to LGS :-)
144. Nine face stoning death in Iran
Comment #216962 by lastgreekstanding on July 23, 2008 at 6:11 pm
utelme,
You are misinformed.
al-rawandi,
You are GROSSLY misinformed.
Fanusi Khiyal,
When are you enlisting?
mordacious1,
I don't know about you being a commie, but you are definitely a fascist.
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145. Nine face stoning death in Iran
Comment #215431 by lastgreekstanding on July 21, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Let's go back a bit . . .
Comment 63 by joshualocum:
And that's what makes you [kkelly] a shockingly rude, boorish jerk. Not only don't you care that you inadvertently hurt someone, but you don't mind compounding the offense. Ordinary human kindness - including the ability to say "I'm sorry" even if you didn't mean what was perceived - is in short enough supply. Thanks for making the forum a little bit uglier.
Post 73 by thewhitepearl:
We tend to stick up for each other especially against rude disrespectful trolls such as yourself [kkelly].
Comment #211693 by mordacious1:
I see that Hezbollah has traded the remains of the two Israeli soldiers kidnapped in 2006 , for 5 live prisoners. Interesting how this works.
Comment #214184 by mordacious1:
These two were kidnapped and murdered.
Comment #214193 by mordacious1:
OK, they are soldiers and they were captured. That means they are at war, which means Israel can bomb the shit out of them. Let's do it your way.
Post 165 by "published" buffoon:
The one thing I always ask these self flagellating miscreants is "In a world with overwhelming military power, who would you rather wield it... the west, or countries like Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia?"
This usually inspires a stuttering response about moral relativism and other bull shit of the most malodorous variety.
So when a person like Kraut says "How many families are destroyed by a bombing" several issues arise.
1) They are obviously situated near a legitimate target, and are always free to take up arms against the thugs and killers that are being targeted.
2) A lot less than would be dying if Muslims had the power the west does. Imagine the likes of Bin Laden, Nasrallah, Yassin, Haniyyah with the power to deliver weapons of mass destruction.
The point can only be "The west needs to be more perfect". To this agree, but get real if you think there is a legitimate comparison between targeting a terrorist (even in an unjust war) and blowing up a bus load of children
146. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya
Comment #214195 by lastgreekstanding on July 19, 2008 at 11:12 pm
It's late.
Good night, mordacious1.
147. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya
Comment #214190 by lastgreekstanding on July 19, 2008 at 10:13 pm
And one more thing . . .
SOLDIERS ARE KILLED NOT "MURDERED"!
EDIT: Israeli murderers are called commandos; Arab commandos are called terrorists.---George Carlin
148. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya
Comment #214162 by lastgreekstanding on July 19, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Comment #211693 by mordacious1---I see that Hezbollah has traded the remains of the two Israeli soldiers kidnapped in 2006 , for 5 live prisoners. Interesting how this works.
149. Anti-Darwinists turned away by Israeli academia
Comment #214129 by lastgreekstanding on July 19, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Christopher Davis said---I don't really know much "text lingo"...but what the hell, while you're busy LOL, you can KMA.
150. Anti-Darwinists turned away by Israeli academia
Comment #213668 by lastgreekstanding on July 18, 2008 at 6:35 pm
the "published" Buffoon said---If you don't know already. People generall just ignore this lastgreekstanding and his text messages. Heavy on obnoxious rhetoric, woefully light on evidence and data.
C. Davis---Yeah I had no idea what lastgreekstanding was trying to convey.
denizb---I must say, this has gone way off topic - but I must say I have come to learn of the audience of this website - and it really brakes my heart.
I love Dawkins because like the site's name, he provides an oasis for clear free thought - and I see there is blind obedience that still lives in the minds of his readers - even if they have rejected the silly notion of God (an all powerful being) they have not applied the same reasoning to other things in life. Blind obedience to crooked politicians, to ill intended governments who have only the goal of protecting their own economic and political interests - is the same thing!
To paraphrase G.K. Chesterton, it's funny how when people stop believing in God they often become not more skeptical but more ready to believe anything. You'd expect it to be the other way around.