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Comment #144484 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 7:36 am

Richard

Just to say , I checked out your son's stuff as well (MPhil mentions it in a previous post)

Truly excellent. Really neat.
Very talented.

Just a pity about the comments that one of his Myspace friends left - I dont think I have seen a list of such christian cliches for ages, although I do remember seeing soemthing similar to it a while back

Its also listed here:

http://www.monstermoneymachine.com/oneliners.html

Saccharine isnt the word.....

:-))
SG

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Comment #144460 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 5:43 am

MPhil

Aye, I take what you say about Vai in tht film. I remember reading about him actually doing both sides. And I suppose it is a bit "baroque-ish" in the way that Blackmore and Malmsteen do.

I think the thing that makes it good for me anyway, is the sheer intensity that the film builds up to at that point. Its all kinda dark (literally) and sinister.

I'ts ages since I listened to any SV - need to catch up! (And stop spending so much time here.....)

:-))
SG

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Comment #144453 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 5:19 am

Geoff

Kudos! That gets 5 stars!

And another thing, that tune to the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" - its got a bit of a status quo-esque boogie feel to it

You could really rock it up....

A bit like a band called Spider did to "Amazing Grace" and "Hava Nagila"

(Spider, for those too young (or too sensible!) to know were a sort of NWOBHM band who described themselves as as cross between Status Quo and Slade..... yes, I know.....)

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
SG

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Comment #144449 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 5:10 am

Mphil

You mentioned Steve Vai back there.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0QKbnCDW94

(The guitar duel between the kid and the "devil" in Crossroads)

Words dimply cannot express whatis happening in this clip. Just listen and be blown away

The ultimate in under-rated films IMO...

:-))
SG

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Comment #144439 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 4:46 am

Mixmastergaz

Just thought of another one.

"Reason for Living" from the Hello! album by the mighty Quo!

Status Quo almost never mention religion in their songs (I think Rossi was brought up as a Catholic of Italian extraction) but this is the only song in their massive output I can think of.

Its got:

I felt in need of some loving so I sat down on a
wall
I tried to find a reason for living, but I
couldn't find a reason at all So I owned up to my
maker and I started to say a prayer
I waited for
an answer but there wasn't anybody there

I thought there should have been someone, but I
wasn't quite sure who
It finished me to find there
was no-one that I could take my troubles to
So I knelt down by my bedside and I started to say aprayer
It was when I asked for nothing I could
feel that there was somebody there


OK, the lyrics arent brilliant, but the sentiment is interesting.

But the best thing about this song is the classic twelve bar dotted rhythm. Absolutely quintessential SQ. With some nice slide guitar as well.

\m/ \m/
:-))))))
SG

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Comment #144431 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 4:23 am

Mixmastergaz

Anything by Deicide probably works...

Actually, Orgasmatron by Motorhead has got this stuff in it:

"I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore."

Covered by Sepultura as well


And speaking of good ol Lemmy and MH, you cant leave out "God was never on your side"

eg
"Let the sword of reason shine,
Let us be free of prayer and shrine
God's face is hidden, turned away,
He never has a word to say,
He was never on your side,
God was never on your side,
Let right or wrong, ALONE decide
God was never on your side!
No, No, No."

(Of course it could be argued that the title tacitly hints at the existence of a "god", just that he's not yours....)

\m/ \m/

:-)))
SG

107. Two More Fleas

Comment #144430 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 4:09 am

Epeeist

Nice collection of "natural evil" events there. The one that I always find fascinating is the Lisbon earthquake and tsunami of 1755

Wikipedia has a good article about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake

There are several aspects to the 1755 event that are interesting:

1) It was one of the first earthquakes to be properly scientifically studied. Modern seismology starts here.

2) It happened at the start of the Enlightenment and made people REALLY question the existence of a benevolent, omnipotent deity

3) It happened at a time when a lot of people were in church, during a MAJOR religious holiday - many were crushed by falling masonery....

There is also the fact that a massive earthquake happened, epicentred on an area where it was, OK, possible but not of this magnitude.

There is a good technical articel about it here, which explains some of the anomalies:

http://scienceweek.com/2004/sa041015-2.htm

The Lisbon earthquake is still being studied and there are still a lot of questions about it.

Of course "god did it" because the place was full of gays, feminists and abortionists oh yes, and liberals is a much better explanation.

Actually the one I prefer is the:

(affected voice needed) You know, the Lord, his ways are mysterious to us, but we are mere sinners and we should not be questioning him in his goodness and mercy. In fact, although 100,000 die in a tsunami, isnt it an example of his wonderful awesome grace that 200,000 survive? Praise his sweet name"

fx: puke.....

:-))SG

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Comment #144405 by scottishgeologist on March 16, 2008 at 2:31 am

Just heard a radio programme on Radio Scotland this morning. "Franchi on Faith" Jane Franchi was talking to various people about faith.

Her talk with Johnstone Mackay, a prominent figure in the Church of Scotland was revealing

"God is not all powerful"
"God cant prevent a plane with failed engines falling from the sky"
"God cant stop a tsunami"
"Dont trust a minister who talks in absolute certainties - hes giving you more than god has given you" (or something like that)

[BTW, Wee Flea, were you listening (actually, as a Wee Free you shouldnt have been since its the Sabbath...)]

When ministers come out with stuff like that, you just know that the battle is nearly over....

Wonder if he would have had so many doubts say 50 years ago?

:-))

SG

PS:

If anytone can be boithered, it is one of the BBCs "Listen Again" progs. You can find it listed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/radioscotland/schedule/

109. Fleabytes

Comment #144238 by scottishgeologist on March 15, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Paula

Thats the trouble with this place

Its like a chat room - no sooner do you post something than a response goes up - its like its all happening in real time

Its also ridiculously addictive....

:-))
SG

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Comment #144237 by scottishgeologist on March 15, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Meanwhile Paula, back at the annexe (www.fcosonline.org) there is a new posting about Satan, God and Adam and Eve.

Obviously the board moderators ar trying to wrestle it back to stuff they are more comfortable with.

Actually, I did read that comment and thought. 2 possible answers

1) Just more contradictory nonsense in the bible
2) Whoever wrote that stuff had far too many 'shrooms.

Actually, if you read all the DR/PK exchanges then suddenly go to the Satan one, its like passing through a black hole or something.

:-))))
SG

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Comment #144234 by scottishgeologist on March 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Paula

AAAAARGH... I am dazed and confused... Time is going backwards - I've now got a response to your posting up before your own posting.....

Time to hit the malt.... (and maybe a peh or two, Billy, you join me?)

:-)))))))
SG

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Comment #144231 by scottishgeologist on March 15, 2008 at 12:40 pm

Paula

Actually, the best review of Davids book is to be found at this URL

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A17G1ZDVI3CXE1/ref=cm_pdp_reviews_see_all?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

Look down the list, find his own book, and notice that he gives it 5 stars......

:-)))
SG

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Comment #144080 by scottishgeologist on March 15, 2008 at 3:41 am

mixmastergaz

Tried the annexe? (www.fcosonline.org)

Had a look myself but its all quiet in there. Very quiet. Must have gone back to a "Saturday Sabbath" (like the seventh day adventists)

Actually, Robertson makes a big thing of acting "biblically" and being "Bible believing"

In which case, his church should have Saturday as the Sabbath. Sunday as the sabbath is a human invention- it started with the Council of Nicea.

:-))
SG

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Comment #143922 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 4:02 pm

Quetz

What David Robertson needs to be hit with is the equivalent of what was knownfor a while here north of the border as the "Lorraine Mann question"

It happened during a televised debate on devolution and left George Robertson totally embarassed (another Robertson! Actually George is Ok ...)

The details are here:
http://www.alba.org.uk/devolution/mann.html

It was a master stroke. Mann is, (I think), an atheist and general all round good gal.

You need to hit him with a question that he can only wriggle and squirm on...

I'd be tempted to go with "do you honestly believe that there was no plate tectonics prior to Adam and Eve taking a bite?"

:-))
SG

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Comment #143903 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 3:28 pm

Quetz

That church appears to be very charismatic:

eg:

"Trevor & Sharon Baker are from Revival Fires Church in Dudley. They have succesfully established a local church that regularly sees outbreaks of signs and wonders and their passion is equipping everyone to minister in God's power. They also travel frequently to India to hold crusades with thousands saved, healed and delivered. It's an exciting opportunity for us to host them for what promises to be an outstanding conference."

that is major league charismatic, like big time stuff.

Also:
"We believe in the personal, bodily return of Christ in the air for his saints (Matthew 24:30-31; Thessalonians 4:13-18)."

So they are "rapture ready" types

I wuld be surprised if they are not YEC biblical literalists. A lot of these charismaniacs are.

They'll probably want to start the evening with some "worship time". That will be really, really, really buttock-clenchingly, toe-curlingly embarassing and horrible. As they all wave their arms about singing "Shine Jesus Shine" and utter complete pish like that....

I feel the need to pray for you......

:-))))))))))))))
SG

I have a feeling that David Robertson has charismatic tendencies, not sure how bad, but definitely to a degree.

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Comment #143899 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 3:11 pm

Billy

Ha ha ha ha ... ROFLMAO!!!

Another cracker!!!

Got any peh eating vids?

;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
SG

Edit: Someones got a Dundee Peh Bebo. Eek!
http://www.bebo.com/dundee-peh

Edit 2: Hah!!! Got it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJsG9f0QGbw

(One of Wee Fleas congregation...)

117. Fleabytes

Comment #143896 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 3:07 pm

Paula

David Robertson is definitely not YEC. He MIGHT be Old Earth Creationist or possibly Theistic Evolutionist. Possibly a "Gap Theorist"

But he has stated categorically in other places that he isnt a 6000 year believer. He doesnt like Ken Ham and people like that. He has claimed in the past, I think on this site, that the Bible DOES NOT say that the earth is 6000 years old

Although some of the churchmen in his denomination dont seem to have a problem with this...

Of course, he is trying to be smart here - he doesnt want to appear like some mad fundy YEC. It also means that he can appear more "reasonable"

He claims to be a "bible believer" but I think there is a lot of picking and choosing going on.

:-))
SG

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Comment #143859 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Quetz said:

"Ah, but if you do that, there are then fewer children born to be brainwashed indoctrinated saved"

There is a movement afoot called Quiverfull which claims to b ebiblical in its support for large families:

http://www.quiverfull.com/aboutus.php

groan......

:-))
SG

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Comment #143847 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 1:58 pm

And if you like that one, the "Advice to Young Brides" is possible better:

http://www.snopes.com/weddings/newlywed/advice.asp

:-)))
SG

Is it a spoof? Was it ever real? Who know?!

120. Fleabytes

Comment #143844 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Speaking of what women should and shouldnt do. Its an old one, its done the rounds, but its still good.

And its here, on Snopes:

Women, know your place!!

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/goodwife.asp

An absolute gem!!

:-))))

SG

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Comment #143749 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 10:51 am

Clod

"I think that a man like that should be informed that should he get a hard on....it does not count as personal growth."

You know there are certain images that enter the brain that are almost too awful to contemplate, and "that man" with a hard on is possibly one of the most disturbing

I expect nightmares tonight......

:-)))))))))))))))))))) ;-)

SG

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Comment #143698 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 10:01 am

Dr Benway

That is truly, truly grim.......

:-))
SG

Billy

Yes its quite funny when a preacher man becomes a rationalist. Tend to be quite vocal and dont pull any punches.

I wonder if itr is becasue they realise that they have been deceived and deceiving all these years and then there is a guilt thing that needs dealing with...

Certainly fun to watch....

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Comment #143666 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 9:43 am

MetroCalvinist

Hi! I'm not Alex!

I think, if I am right, you are thinking of a guy who USED to be a Free Chruch minister - Bonar Bridge I believe

Dont actually know him, think he may have actually contributed to this forum some time ago.

Bye!

SG

124. I don't believe in atheists

Comment #143651 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 9:13 am

Irate,

Good one, only 24 comments down the list and you pin F------d medal on him!"

Anyone earned this most illustrious award sooner than this?

:-)))))
SG

Hey, just thought. rotten.com USED to have a page called "f*ck of the month" You could institute a "f*cktard of the month award!!!

125. I don't believe in atheists

Comment #143635 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 9:01 am

"I dont believe in Atheists"? Is this some sort of joke anti-flea?

"Dr" John Blanchard wrote a book a few years back called "Does God believe in atheists?" Pish title, pish book, pish author.....

I worry about all these trees getting cut down to fuel this nonsense.

sigh....

:-)
SG

126. Fleabytes

Comment #143626 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 8:57 am

Billy,

Hayseed Dixie's "Ace of Spades" - Hey thats class that is!!

Still prefer Lemmy's version. Mind you, talking of Motorhead the "Killed by Death" video must be the ultimate in metal vids....

Apart of course from that compilation of Mad Max clips that someone did to the accompaniment of "Ace of Spades" Its on Youtube - worth a look

Damn,... just cant remember the serpentariuym thing - what was that now? Worried the snakes might slither on the sabbath? Or was it some sort of Garden of Eden nonsense.

Speaking of which. Iron Butterfly's "In a gadda da vida" is supposed to be some sort of drug-cocktail induced reference to "In a Garden of Eden" Excellent song and completely stoner material....

Aye, there are music festivals all over the place these days. Its great!

(Amazing isnt it, the stuff you can just drop into a thread - such an eclectic mix of enthusiasms this place....)

10K? Might just.....

:-))

Rock on \m/ \m/
SG

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Comment #143605 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 8:39 am

Paula :

"Does it form part of the training? "

Best to let the Wee Flea himslef speakon this issue. On his own denomiantional website last year he wrote (regarding training of ministers)

The situation is getting worse because we are now getting people dropping out before they even become ministers. I know of two of the current crop of Free Church students who no longer intend to apply for license. These are men we have trained at our own expense and who will end up ministering elsewhere, when there is a severe shortage of ministers in the Free Church. We are also having enormous difficulty in getting men into our college at all. At the moment there are zero students accepted for the Free Church ministry and entry for the College this year. Why? Some young men I have spoken to are keen on the ministry but are not so sure about the training they will get in the College and are also not so sure about becoming a Free Church minister in the first place. The result of this is that as we become increasingly desperate we will lower our standards and accept almost any Tom, Dick and Hamish

128. Two More Fleas

Comment #143571 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 7:57 am

Pi eh?

I remember this one from school:

"Sir, I bear a rhyme excelling
In mystic force, and magic spelling
Celestial spheres elucidate
All my own striving can`t relate "

Easy way to remember it to 20 digits. count the letters in each word, the comma after Sir stands for the decimal point

:-)))
SG

129. Fleabytes

Comment #143557 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 7:50 am

Quetz,replying to Anna said

"Think happier thoughts."

You know,last night I sent a PM to someone who wanted more info on the St Kilda stuff. He asked about "evangelical musical instrument burning"

This actually happened, and it would actually make a good article. Here is the cut n paste of the text I sent:

Donnie Munro, lead singer of Run Rig once told the story of how an ancestor, also Donald Munro, was a zealous evangelist who organised a fiddle burning.

Get a hold of the book "Skye " by Derek Cooper - it was published a while back (1970) but is still very good. Donald Munro is mentioned on page 97. I'll quote a bit:

"So powerful was his oratory, so complete his conversion from the works of the devil, that he was able to convince his flock that the only way to eternal reward was to renounce the wiles of music. He named a day when they were to bring their fiddles and bagpipes to the head of Loch Snizort for a big public conflagration. The response was gratifying for Munro and he was able to warm his body and soul at a monumental bonfire. It was not only music that men liek Munro objected to - they were almost entirely succesful in in stifling the oral tradition of story telling and other manifestations of native culture"

130. Fleabytes

Comment #143432 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 5:39 am

David,

This is short n sweet.

The reason I posted the Westminster Confession thing was because someone asked "what does DR believe"

Surely a perfectly reasonable question and a perfectly reasonable answer, since the WCF is a subordiante standard in your church.

Your ordination vows bind you to it.

Yet you dont accept parts of it - "pick n mix" again, like you accuse liberals of doing with the bible.

It is quite simply hypocritical to claim a standard and then apply it as you see fit.

Incidentally, this business of acting like a "declaratory Act Free Church" has been picked up on by other churches and used to attack you.

(for anyone who can stand reading it:
http://www.fpchurch.org.uk/Magazines/fpm/1998/January/article4.php )

The whole business is about your integrity - do you REALLY believe what you sign up to?

:-))

SG

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Comment #143372 by scottishgeologist on March 14, 2008 at 3:53 am

Paula

This stuff just keeps getting better. Just noticed your comments on the RD.net annexe. Plus this beauty from DR himself:

I'm afraid I will not be attending - I have always disliked these type of controlled rallies. I witnessed the set up near Liberty which was displayed on your website for many months. When RD is willing to allow his beliefs to be challenged and to actually discuss the issues then I would be willing to attend....

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Comment #143221 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 5:04 pm

Billy

Its a cracker of a place.

And there is a beautiful set of web pages on Edinburgh University's site:

http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/undergraduate/field/siccarpoint/

In particular, look at the "Paleaogeography" and "plate setting" pages. There is a good little animation there of the Iapetus ocean closing up.

Man, this stuff is just SO good....its like sex, fast cars and a vintage stratocaster all in the one day.

As for YECs, creationism and all that pish.....

:-)))))
SG

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Comment #143204 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 4:23 pm

Richard asked:

Any suggestions?
London?
Paris?
Inverness?
Coventry-sur-Mer?

No problem whatsoever - whatever the nearest hotel is to Siccar Point

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siccar_Point

The tide turned there - not the just the literal one.

Ideal venue - almost on the Scotland England border - monumentally important in the history of geology and evolution. Good sea views. Bracing air. No fleas - too windy....

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))

SG

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Comment #143200 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 4:09 pm

Quetz

I have sent you a PM with some question suggestions. Nearly had a Homer D'oh... moment mind you - I nearly posted it here where DR could see it...... man, its getting late...

:-)))))))))))))
SG

135. Ban anti-Catholic books in schools, says bishop

Comment #143036 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 11:36 am

Oh yeah, heres another cracker:

http://www.biblesexstories.com/stories/lot.html

Beaut!

:-))

SG

136. Ban anti-Catholic books in schools, says bishop

Comment #143029 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 11:29 am

But Bishop O'Donoghue defended his stance. "I think there has to be a vetting of material given the age range of children in schools," he said. "There is certain material that you do not put in front of them."

Yes, like the Bible. In particular this gem:

Judges 19 22-29

22Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.

23And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this folly.

24Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing.

25But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.

26Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light.

27And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold.

28And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place.

29And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.

137. Fleabytes

Comment #142983 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 9:48 am

al-rawandi

What does clearthinker believe? Well as an ordained minister in the FCofS he takes an ordination vow subscribing him to the Westminster Confession of Faith.

Which can be found here:
http://www.freechurch.org/resources/confessions/westminster.htm

Ordination Vow:

"Do you sincerely own and believe the whole doctrine contained in the Confession of Faith, approven by former General Assemblies of this Church, to be founded upon the word of God; and do you acknowledge the same as the confession of your faith ... ?'

Whether he actually believes whats in it is another matter of course....

:-)
SG

138. Fleabytes

Comment #142970 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 9:28 am

Kings Arms Church?

Judging by their belief statement they are pentecostal charismatic "rapturists" who believe in eternal conscious punishment of unbelievers

Great

Fundy charismaniacs. The worst version of the god delusion

SG

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Comment #142951 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 8:51 am

Paula

yes another clergyman spouting his homophobia. Reminds me of that ghastly Clause 28 / Section 2A debate a few years ago.

Cardinal Winning (catholic) and Brian Souter (pentecostal) together in one of the nastiest campaigns ever to blight the political scene "keep the clause" Remember?

Vile so it was.

Actually, it did achieve one thing - it identified who the real hatemongers were in society. And churchmen were up there leading the charge.

Plenty of biblical references were flying around then. The anti-gay hatred ws palpable.

SG

140. Fleabytes

Comment #142908 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 7:30 am

Talk about now?

10K I would think.....

:-))

SG

141. Fleabytes

Comment #142901 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 7:26 am

Paula

Kudos and a big smackeroonie XXXXXXX

Rock on!

:-)) \m/

SG

PS: Bet you the Wee Flea reads this sort of stuff and gets REALLY pissed off - you know all tht "self congratulatory" stuff, atheists patting each other on the back.

Well if you're reading this , clearthinker, this ones for you:

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.................../..../
............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
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..........''...\.......... _.·´
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142. Fleabytes

Comment #142891 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 7:22 am

Wouldnt it be really, really, like awful if clearthinker were to sneak in here and hit the 5000 post?

Only joking....

:-))
SG

143. Two More Fleas

Comment #142886 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 7:20 am

black wolf

That's interesting. So maybe there are some people who visit here, who are theistic, having the seeds of doubt sown

It would be good to get the actual "anti-testimony" of someone who experienced that, esp since this site has only been up for a relatively short time.

Especially if they could go back to the EXACT posting tht triggered the process!

:-))))
SG

144. Two More Fleas

Comment #142875 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 6:59 am

Philip

I think it is fairly simple. Lets face it, there is NO WAY any of the atheists here are agoing to get "converted" Likewise, none of the theists are going to get "deconverted"

The only reason the Wee Flea likes coming her is so that he can play the victim, play the martyr and generally say "oh how I am suffering, how awful these athiest fundies are, oh look everyone, look how I am suffering dogs abuse for the faith. Oh, the pain, the anguish, ah but someone had got to do it....Christ must be SO proud of me"


Very interesting that he is the ONLY ONE from his church who carries on like this. There are plenty of other good debaters and writers in the Free Church, but they've gotr more sense. Oh, no, the Wee Flea has got an ego to stroke, oh of course and a book to sell....

:-)

SG

145. Fleabytes

Comment #142852 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 6:31 am

Philip

Just a plain and simple blend - the malts come out at night. Or special occasions.

Actually, this is kinda special.Hang on.....

:-))))
SG

146. Fleabytes

Comment #142845 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 6:18 am

Clod

Yeah, I know... bad news.... life is looking grim. Never mind, Proverbs 20: "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging, and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise"

There, the Holy Book always gives a clear answer.

Except:

Proverbs 31: Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts

So there you go.

:-)))))))))))))))))

SG

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Comment #142839 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 6:11 am

More tea Philip, quite right , settle down for what could be a JFK style moment "Where were you when they hit 5K on RD.net?"

Me? I've got a whisky ready.....!

:-)))

SG

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Comment #142834 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 6:09 am

OK Paula

Straight back on topic for the big 5K, How is the prep going for the Inverness event - any good media stories yet?

I notice an outraged character on FCOS forum (AKA the RD.net annexe....)

Cheers

SG

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Comment #142829 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 6:06 am

Clod

Redemption.exe ?!! Hah! Might just add it... Mind you, I think it probably needs damnation.dll and possibly selfrighteousbastard.sys ... Shit , last thing you want on the way to paradise is a 404...

:-)))))
SG

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Comment #142819 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2008 at 5:57 am

43 to go....

Wonder if it 'll be like this in Dec 2012?

:-))

SG