1501. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #193525 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 7:23 pm

GW is going to have to get his mom's permission, because she runs that family. She might look like the Quaker Oats guy, but she is a bulldog. I doubt if this is going to happen until mom drops dead.

1502. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #193515 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 6:35 pm

thewhitepearl

Oh, yeah that's right. Those were the good ol' days.

1503. Physicists in Congress Calculate Their Influence

Comment #193513 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 6:31 pm

Calvin College is a four year christian liberal arts college. So I do not know what kind of science he taught there.

1504. Physicists in Congress Calculate Their Influence

Comment #193499 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 5:48 pm

Why a physicist would want to be a member of congress and be surrounded by morons is beyond me. But hey, if they can handle it, why not?

1505. Only a Theory

Comment #193495 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm

Ken Miller a deist?

As a roman catholic, I wonder if he goes into the little box to confess his sins. If he believes that an invisible being can forgive his sins, then he's not a deist.

1506. Physicist Claims First Real Demonstration of Cold Fusion

Comment #193492 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Back to the physics...

I know little about what is now being called "cool fusion", but from what I do know, isn't the probem: making negative muons or negative mesons can't be done cheaply?

1507. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #193487 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 5:23 pm

Now, if I was a conspiracy nut, I would note that 5 of the Supreme Court Justices are catholic, Blair's catholic, Bush may become catholic...we've got Fanusi ready to wage the Crusades again...

1508. Stephen Hawking: ministers' £80m error puts science at risk

Comment #193481 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 5:03 pm

Nova

We do support stem cell research in CA.

How many U.S. scientists in the UK? Sure seems a lot of them at american universities with british accents.

1509. Only a Theory

Comment #193409 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 2:18 pm

EvidenceOnly

Off topic, but I saw a picture of a sermon sign outside a church posted somewhere, might have been here. The sign read:

Sermons

9 A.M.......Jesus walks on water.


11 A.M......Looking for Jesus.

1510. Only a Theory

Comment #193400 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 2:09 pm

How come some people get those weird symbols in their posts? The last word in Shergar's post is "?".

1511. Breaking the Silence

Comment #193395 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Tough debates. You win, and they kill you. You lose, and they kill you. You refuse to debate, and they kill you. Lovely religion isn't it?

Shouldn't they kill the cleric for debating a woman?

1512. Stephen Hawking: ministers' £80m error puts science at risk

Comment #193391 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 2:01 pm

So, is there any money involved in getting a knighthood? He could always take the dough and hand it over to a research department.

1513. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #193387 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 1:57 pm

Fanusi

Yes, we get your stance. I don't agree. I tend to agree with thewhitepearl that all religions are dangerous.

I didn't see an apology in there for calling her a "lickspittle tu quoque apologist"...which she hardly is, and she was offended by it.

1514. Stephen Hawking: ministers' £80m error puts science at risk

Comment #193385 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 1:46 pm

Phil

Maggie was a chemist? Did not know. She quit putting air in ice cream, and went on to put air (hot) into parliment. Nice transition.

edit: I thought she got the title "Iron Lady" from having a strong will, not from the periodic table.

1515. Only a Theory

Comment #193374 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 1:23 pm

Spinoza

There was a reason why they had Miller testify at the Dover trial, where he did a good job. My only problem with him, is he is not as outspoken against religion as a Dawkins or a Hitchens would be. But I stated that this is a good thing if one needs to smooth things over at a trial, for example. Even Richard has said, that if he testified, the trial may have gone the other way.

[edit] Maybe I should clarify. I enjoy K. Miller as a scientist, but he is a Roman Catholic, and sometimes he makes statements that try to link religion and science, that works for some people, just not for me.[end edit]

You seem to get agitated fairly easily for no reason. I am not a fan of his, I wouldn't buy his book, I agree with alot he has to say though, plain and simple. If you don't like it, so what?

1516. Breaking the Silence

Comment #193365 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 1:09 pm

It always seems that it is the women who are brave enough to step forward and speak out. Of course, they receive most of the shit from this religion, so they have the most grievances. Brave women.

1517. Only a Theory

Comment #193359 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Different name, same old crap.[edit] creationism=ID=strength and weaknesses.

I'm not a big K. Miller fan, but he has been useful lately. Good front man.

edit: I liked the groan when the announcer said "let's take some questions from the audience".

1518. Stephen Hawking: ministers' £80m error puts science at risk

Comment #193353 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 12:40 pm

One has to respect the man.

The U.S. will take all the scientists the UK has to offer. You can keep the cretinist "scientists".

1519. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #193339 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 11:49 am

Steve

Zarbi?

1520. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #193337 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 11:42 am

thewhitepearl

Crum. Now I feel bad for repeating it, sorry.

Fanusi

I think apologies are in order, don't you think?

1521. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193317 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 9:58 am

Since christianity is on such a decline in the UK, isn't it about time to slap property and corporation taxes on churches and mosques? They could put the money into anti-terrorist activities. Win-win.

1522. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #193202 by mordacious1 on June 15, 2008 at 12:09 am

thewhitepearl

"I'm still sore because he called me the 'a' word".

Oooh, I musta missed that. What post?
[edit] oh, you mean lickspittle tu quoque apologist? Yes, very offensive...hardly makes sense either, does it? Seems to fit him more...

Peacebeuponme

"I don't think there is much to infer from any screen name".

Mine describes me perfectly.

1523. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #193138 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 6:46 pm

"...most christians want better relations between christians and islam".

Tony, reading between the lines here, I would say this means that most christians want to quit being blown up by muslims. They don't want to accept or understand islam, they just don't want to go to work and get fried by an airliner crashing into their place of business.

1524. Behe's Empty Box

Comment #193134 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 6:16 pm

Pythagoras

Irreducible complexity has been demolished so often it is ridiculous. Each and every argument that the cretinists have, has been trashed by the scientific community and others over and over again (and in public forums, like Dover). Yet they keep bringing them up. The Dover trial should have been on the four major networks, then maybe people would listen and learn. I doubt it though. Plus they would have had to bump, "Dancing with the Stars".

The believers look at Kirk Cameron's crocoduck, and say "yeah, that evolution stuff is nonsense". Let's face it, alot of these people are just too damn stupid to walk and breath at the same time.

There, I got that out of my system for the day.

1525. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #193132 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 6:04 pm

thewhitepearl

The only way that I can follow Fanusi's argument, is if he is an Israeli. Then everything he says makes sense, to him.

1526. Behe's Empty Box

Comment #193129 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 5:39 pm

Layla

Twin towers behind you in your avatar? Subtle point about religion.

1527. Behe's Empty Box

Comment #193034 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 1:21 pm

"...nothing worthwhile has come from Behe during that time."

That is an understatement.

Behe: "...from the evidence, I think intelligent design is the best explanation."

Does one need to know more from this guy? I think not.

1528. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #193000 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 12:20 pm

sent2null

Enjoyed the link, excellent. Thanks.

1529. Kerry O'Brien's exclusive interview with the Dalai Lama

Comment #192975 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 11:21 am

What's always bothered me about this Lama fellow, is that he is constantly saying that he wouldn't even kill a mosquito if it was sucking his blood. He has too much respect for life. Yet he is alway jetting around the world, the jets kill countless insects and even birds while taking off and landing. Plus, the polution the jet creates is harming the environment much more than me swatting an insect here and there. If he would just stay put or do more walking, he could save more life. I wonder how much life would be destroyed if he used a sailboat to move around? Just don't talk the talk, walk the walk.

1530. Scientists confirm that parts of earliest genetic material may have come from the stars

Comment #192817 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 2:23 am

I think that they might be leaping to say that the material for containing the heavier form of carbon could only be formed in space. Everything on Earth was formed in stars, so couldn't Earth contain this carbon too? And can someone explain, if this is so, how do we replicate without the heavier form of carbon, which can only be formed in space? hmmm

1531. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #192810 by mordacious1 on June 14, 2008 at 2:10 am

Is this writtin by Tony Blair, or Tomy Blair? Did he have to change his name?

edit: I know it's Tony, just noticed the mispelling and thought it might be a good idea for him to change his name. How about Gregg Bush?

[edit] Oh sure Josh, correct the spelling of his name, so that my post looks more stupid than it originaly was.

1532. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192427 by mordacious1 on June 13, 2008 at 3:31 am

Fanusi

So you'd like us to be at war with islam? Let's see, which of the following muslim dominated countries should we attack first? Malaysia, Turkey, Kosovo maybe? How about Bangladesh? Lots of muslims there. Nigeria? And they have oil too. Indonesia, Egypt, Jordon?

No, I don't think it was thewhitepearl's thinking that got us into the Iraq mess. Your's maybe. The fact that Falwell and Robertson had direct lines to the White House probably had something to do with it. The fact that the fundies got their president elected is what got us into Iraq. If you read about the neocons and their thinking about building democracies in muslim nations, how if we started on in Iraq, it would spread to the rest of the middle east, how they had these plans before 9/11 , then you'd know why were in Iraq.

You want to start a crusade, that worked out well previously.

1533. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192415 by mordacious1 on June 13, 2008 at 2:58 am

Whether of not Steyn's article is hate speech was hashed out in another thread on this topic, that's why it was mainly skipped here. This article is titled, "Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech". Most posts here are on this topic. Do people have the right not to be offended? In America, no. Elsewhere, it seems like it.

1534. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192371 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 10:19 pm

secondsoprano

His wife is a real fundie type, if the guy admits to being an atheist, she'd divorce him in two seconds. Can't have a godless heathen in the house, and that includes me.

1535. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192365 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 9:49 pm

I am smarter than that plant that attacks weeds...or am I? I have two MD friends, one's an atheist, one's a believer. Which one has the higher IQ? I'd have to give it to the believer, because he knows how much alimony and child support he'd pay if he admitted atheism. Good at math he is.

Cartomancer: Wish I was there to buy you a pint, Happy Birthday.

1536. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192354 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 8:43 pm

Bonzai

Sorry, wasn't ignoring you. I'm stuck using my old dinosaur of a computer and it crashed, then started watching Celtics/Lakers.

The Buddhist monks never accepted any of the S. Vietnamese governments and started turmoil early in 1963 . At the time, the CIA claimed that they were linked with the communists. I don't think so, but maybe. They lost a lot of political power when we started supporting the south. This led to many violent riots, peaking around '65 or '66, but lasting throughout the war. Today, they are protesting in Vietnam Cambodia and Thailand, among other places in S.E Asia. It is usually the monks who do the rioting, but others get caught up in it too.

edit: Not that the rest of the world cares, but Celtics win after being behind by 24 . The only disappointment was when Pierce explained the win by saying "goddidit". Jesus hit four 3 pt shots.

1537. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192343 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Bonzai

You have to get out more. I guess I've just had jobs where I met a lot of people, including the American military, German military, civilian govt, teacher, hospital employee, etc. Plus all the time I spent at University. Yes, I've known thousands, and all the christians prayed to their god. Each and everyone at some point in their life.

1538. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192336 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Buddhists can be just as violent as anyone. I remember them going on a rampage in Viet Nam. A sea of orange, with sticks, rocks, and clubs. This has happened elsewhere too. These guys kind of lead an elite life (the priests) and when you take away their special privileges and goodies they can go bonkers.

1539. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192332 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm

thewhitepearl

OK we can all agree that religious people are fruits, like avocados.

1540. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192319 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Bonzai

It's in their book that people can talk to the invisible ones. That is all it takes. I've asked thousands of fundies, even some not so fundie, if the lord guides them in their life. 100% say yes. So when GW says he was guided by god, they believe him. What can be more dangerous than that? And we have more destructive weapons.

1541. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192313 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 6:39 pm

Let's remember that GW got the ok from jesus before attacking Iraq. Religion is dangerous whenever people think there is a conversation going on between them and the invisible ones. The radical muslims tell their followers that their book, or allah needs them to blow up the infidel. The christians believe that such and such a war is ok because their leader got the go ahead from god. Insanity on both sides.

oh, and I almost got trampled once by hari krishnas trying to sell me flowers at the airport, so they can be dangerous too.

1542. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192248 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 3:26 pm

Fanusi

I don't see direct sedition here, even if there was a law to prevent such a thing. We are not officially at war with the Islamic world. If they move this school on to private land, it stays open.

1543. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192236 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Can someone please explain to me who is going to close this school? I don't see any legal ability to do this if it is a privately funded school. Bob Jones U. has been going on without govt. support, but constantly puts out weird and hateful nonsense. They can make it move off govt. land, but they cannot stop them from opening elsewhere.

1544. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192218 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm

Mango

I meant I was being anecdotal, not the article necessarily.

Lucas

I find myself reading your posts with a deep voice. It's the Avatar, and I can't stop myself.

edit: I think believers can be smart or dumb as a rock. If you are a declared atheist, anecdotal again, you are probably at least above average in thinking skills. IMHO

1545. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192213 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 2:49 pm

Vinelectric

Muslims say what that we complain about? Yes, they can "say" pretty much anything that isn't otherwise outlawed. They cannot say "I'm going to overthrow the government" for example. But if they want to SAY, "Women should be stoned for doing (whatever), yes, why shouldn't they say it? I wish they'd say it more so, people can find out who they really are.

edit: I can tell this is going to be a long, long thread.

1546. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192202 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm

I hope this get rid of these HRC's for good. They've really become a Frankenstein's monster.

1547. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192197 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm

The only Ammendment to Constitution that I couldn't have put up with, was the 18th. The rest are pretty damn good. As much as people here, like al and falcon, like the Bill of Rights (so do I), my favorite has to be the 14th. This Ammendment has been used to apply the Bill of Rights to the states. It is only recently that we've actually had freedom of speech, Warren Court I believe.

I know, off topic, sort of.

1548. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192181 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm

A fellow takes a short nap, then Josh post all this...

Where do I begin? A joke of course.

"American courts would not stop a planned march by the American Nazi Party in Skokie, IL , in 1977...".

"I hate Illinois Nazis!" Elwood Blues, from The Blues Brothers.

edit: or was that Jake?

1549. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192162 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm

Totally anecdotal, but the non-believers I run in to seem to be a cut-above, whereas when when I run into an idiot...

1550. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192152 by mordacious1 on June 12, 2008 at 1:49 pm

"I'm shocked! Shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment".

"Here are your winnings, sir".