Comments by Quetzalcoatl

1551. The Art of Creating Controversy Where None Existed

Comment #160457 by Quetzalcoatl on April 14, 2008 at 5:58 am

Steve-

I hope fascinating facts about peak oil are not going to become a regular feature on your blog.

Comment #160382 by Quetzalcoatl on April 14, 2008 at 2:26 am

thisisme-

In short, if there is no God, why is it wrong to lie for him?

You know what, you're right. Since there is no God, we should all go around raping and killing, doing whatever we like. Why the hell not, right? [sarcasm off]

1553. Expelled Overview

Comment #160368 by Quetzalcoatl on April 14, 2008 at 2:06 am

Jon_Sociologist-

outstanding post.

I do think you're a little harsh on talking snakes though.

1554. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160365 by Quetzalcoatl on April 14, 2008 at 1:58 am

Philip-

Its Ok Quetz,

He will never have the following you have acquired neither can he spell The Name properly!

Well yes, plus I would NEVER use the word biatch.

5 sales so far, were you one of the paperback purchasers?

1555. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #160363 by Quetzalcoatl on April 14, 2008 at 1:51 am

Epeeist-

those are all good questions, and I'm sure if Artful_Dodger wasn't so busy, he would answer them.

1556. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #160340 by Quetzalcoatl on April 14, 2008 at 1:10 am

Some of you may recall that I posted and PM'd this comment to Quezcatol last night-

To the poster known as Quezcatol-

I would appreciate it if you would change your user name to something further away from my own. While it may have been inadvertent, the similarity in our user names may cause confusion, especially since I can tell from the contents of your few posts that our views are wildly divergent.

It is entirely possible that readers might mistakenly ascribe comments by one of us to the other. I'm sure both of us wish to be judged solely on the contents of our OWN posts, and not someone else's.

Thanks.

Quezcatol responded by PM last night, and this is what he had to say-

Die biatch!

Hmm.

1557. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159983 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 1:45 pm

Epeeist-

And to extend it in the same way we did with Artful Dodger (can anyone recall the answers he gave). How do you decide what is metaphor and what is literal, and how did you gain the authority to make that decision?

His answer essentially boiled down to "you just know". Then he had to leave because he was busy.

1558. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159932 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 12:25 pm

David A Robertson-

But don't worry clearthinker will return!

why the jumping back and forth between user names? I'm sure you understand it could be a little confusing! Since we thought you were posting as Clearthinker, if someone posts as David A Robertson it was natural to think it was someone else.

1559. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159925 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 12:15 pm

Corylus-

Hee hee. Old partying buddies from your bad snake phase?

Well, everyone was a teenager once. We used to go out on the firmament every weekend looking for goddesses to, ahem, convert. Good times.

1560. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159913 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 11:44 am

Enlightenme..

I PM'd him as well, so he can't say he didn't notice it. Fortunately he posts so infrequently that it's not really a major issue. We shall see.

1561. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159910 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 11:42 am

Corylus-

perhaps Abaddon? Azazel? Apophis? Azrael? :)

1562. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159907 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 11:36 am

Epeeist-

I am guessing that it was blocked.

1563. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159902 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 11:23 am

Epeeist et al-

"David A Robertson" is, I think, the real DR. Click on the "Other Comments By" if you don't believe me. They go back quite a way.

1564. Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher

Comment #159898 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 11:13 am

To the poster known as Quezcatol-

I would appreciate it if you would change your user name to something further away from my own. While it may have been inadvertent, the similarity in our user names may cause confusion, especially since I can tell from the contents of your few posts that our views are wildly divergent.

It is entirely possible that readers might mistakenly ascribe comments by one of us to the other. I'm sure both of us wish to be judged solely on the contents of our OWN posts, and not someone else's.

Thanks.

1565. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159886 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 10:44 am

Jon Sociologist-

Jesus Quetz, if my little tiff with Styrer- was just verging, I'd hate to see what you would call a real "slanging match".

The recent one between Al-Rawandi and Styrer. And my first name isn't Jesus.

1566. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159737 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 2:40 am

Steve-

Private Message for you.

1567. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159736 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 2:37 am

Vaal-

indeed, but in this case his view seems to be supported by the way this thread is going.

Here's a link to the entire post. I'm afraid it's mostly more of the usual:

http://www.fcosonline.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=91e31ccdf2f8e66b1beef2e1cbaa1005&topic=25.msg257#msg257

1568. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #159731 by Quetzalcoatl on April 13, 2008 at 2:27 am

Oh excellent. More arguing verging on becoming another slanging match. Terrific.

Interestingly, the ongoing RM/DR dialogue has now been moved to its own thread on FCOS. In his latest response, DR says the following in reference to RD.net-

In fact in general it is very confused and muddled thinking which seems to be largely driven by emotion and feeling

While I don't agree with the bulk of DR's post, it does seem to me that this thread is being increasingly fuelled by emotion and feeling, so DR actually has a point there. This is the second thread that has gone in this direction recently. I hope that it is just a temporary aberration.

1569. Fleabytes

Comment #159406 by Quetzalcoatl on April 12, 2008 at 6:01 am

Geoff-

happy birthday to you!

Steve-

Amazing how the mention of just one name can say so much about a person

What does it say about you if you've never heard of Albert Tatlock?

1570. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159158 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 2:09 pm

Bonzai, BFKate-

I'm a big fan of House, actually. You both make good points. I guess I find it hard to imagine that a bigot would be able to compartmentalise themselves so effectively, although I accept that any good surgeon by default compartmentalises their emotions.

1571. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159146 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 1:49 pm

BFKate-

it is hard to believe that a queer-hating surgeon, who might well despise and discriminate against gays in every other aspect of his life, would suddenly become even-handed when he had "one of them" on the operating table in front of him.

1572. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159140 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 1:37 pm

BFKate-

If I say I hate queers but I happen to be a superb surgeon does that mean I can't be trusted to treat gay people?

It means that there's a good chance that you might refuse to treat them, jeopardising their lives. Even if you do treat them, then it's more than likely that you would be less careful than with a straight person. Would that make you suitable for the job?

1573. Inadequate, private and late apology with grotesquely inadequate excuse

Comment #159131 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 1:26 pm

BFKate-

I think calling for Ms Davis' resignation for expressing an opinion is a punishment and a type of ban, as well as a form of censorship. I don't think anyone wants to kill her but they do want to see her pay some kind of price. That is not freedom of speech.

Of course she is entitled to freedom of speech. But part of her being a public official, elected by the people, is the expectation that she should be held to a higher standard. She was undoubtedly aware of that. A public official who makes statements that discriminate against whole sections of the population should pay a higher price for that.

1574. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #159123 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 1:14 pm

ASMarques-

If I gave you the sources and you did verify by yourself that this is indeed what the eyewitnesses are telling you, your eyes would fill with tears, your heart would be overwhelmed with sympathy, and all doubts would instantly vanish. This way you are, hopefully, being encouraged to be more alert and indeed to use the Internet on your quest for the truth

Ah, I see. You're withholding the sources for my benefit. How generous of you.

I am curious as to whether you took the same approach when discovering these hidden truths, or whether you were shown sourced evidence by others.

1575. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158945 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 8:00 am

Wherever you go, whatever you do, Jesus is with you. You could be eating a cheeseburger, he's there. When you're taking a shower, he's there with you. When you go to the toilet, he's there. While you're sleeping, he's right there with you.

Isn't it a comfort to know that Jesus is with you?

1576. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158908 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 6:52 am

Irate-

maybe, but it's more fun to think that when Philip gets pissed, instead of dancing or starting fights, he does the housework.

1577. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158902 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 6:45 am

Philip1978-

A couple of times I woke up in the morning after a rather heavy night on the tiles to discover not only could I not remember the night out I had cleaned my room, even hoovered it the second time. I was really freaked out, I had folded all my clothes, dusted - everything!

Rock. And. Roll.

1578. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158883 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 6:29 am

Tyler-

Disappear when the questions about your "sources" get tough

You wouldn't think a question like "so where exactly did you get this from?" would be so tough for him to answer, especially since he's done all the hard work of uncovering the truth about the Zionist/Illuminati/Greys conspiracy. But apparently it is.

1579. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158823 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 4:57 am

Decreasing Intelligence Ogenes said-

A troll lives under a bridge never leaving

I find it quite funny that he's trying to define what a troll is, and doing it based on the tale of The Three Billy Goats Gruff.

1580. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158736 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 1:48 am

Vulcan-

and when man's current understanding of the universe or how things work in it contradicts what the Bible actually says about it later discoveries show man's understanding to be wrong and the Bible correct after all

May I have some examples?

1581. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158733 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 1:44 am

Just combed my way through the thread- very interesting.

Defective Infector Ogenes, what can I say? You're certainly good for a laugh. And you seem to have a talent for writing. I foresee a bright future for you in Christian Apologetics :-)

1582. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #158697 by Quetzalcoatl on April 11, 2008 at 12:58 am

Having just received some great news, I am in a very good mood, practically bouncing on my chair. This must be how Philip1978 feels ALL THE TIME.

This thread will not ruin it for me.

More salient thread-related comments to follow.

1583. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158379 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 12:07 pm

al-

and yet here we are. This is ample proof of the theory that there is nothing so stupid that someone, somewhere will not believe it.

1584. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158368 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 11:55 am

We ask for where the comments came from. ASMarques says:

You'll have to trust me. Or not. As you wish

Considering you've provided copious links in the past, it strikes me as very strange that you cannot provide a source for these quotes. Some might call it convenient. If they were cynical.

1585. Fleabytes

Comment #158339 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 11:06 am

Al-

I'm not sure if that's true. There was a gap between you chastising him and the deletion of his posts. The battle royale with Styrer happened after the event as well.

1586. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158336 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 11:03 am

Al-

reading them, it struck me that some of them could be true (the commander sniping prisoners was in Schindler's List) and some could easily be the understandable exaggerations of the traumatised. But without context and authorship, it's impossible to know.

ASMarques- this is where you step in.

1587. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158330 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 10:54 am

Everyone-

it occurs to me to wonder how many of ASMarques' contradictory witness statements came from those who were mad, delirious or traumatised by the horrors of the war or their experiences within the camps.

If this is true, it strikes me as being especially reprehensible for said statements to be used to cast doubt on the veracity of the Holocaust. Some might say contemptible.

1588. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158279 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 9:27 am

Steve Zara-

He does. It's just such a shame it's all a pile of crap. Or is that too blunt?

1589. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158274 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 9:24 am

Well, that handful of cherry-picked statements wih no context has certainly impressed me. What was I thinking? Clearly you are right, ASMarques.

Or not.

1590. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158252 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 8:59 am

Sargeist-

I take your point, and looking back at it I admit I was over-generalising. You're right.

ASMarques-

clever. And way to turn it back on me! Although it seems clear that we disagree on the definition of "mass of corroborating evidence".

1591. Rep. Davis: The Worst Person in the World

Comment #158241 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 8:50 am

A quick search of Google has turned up the following:

http://blog.kjmastaw.com/

The first post is VERY interesting.

A quote from it: "In a previous blog posting, I pointed out that evolution is not scientific fact. It's a theory and nothing more".

Guess that the question of whether HE even knows what a scientific theory is, and what it means.

1592. Rep. Davis: The Worst Person in the World

Comment #158227 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 8:34 am

Kjmastaw-

but I'd venture to guess that very few of you really understand what the scientific method is, could explain the difference between scientific fact vs. scientific theory

Can you?

Epeeist has given you a large list of people who do with certainty. There are many here who do not have a background in science (I freely admit that I am one of them). But most of those people still know a great deal about the subject.

Do you?

1593. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158220 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 8:22 am

Al-

I know. The overwhelming nature of the evidence just serves to underline the absurdity of the claim.

You've got to have a really big reason for wanting to believe that it didn't happen to claim that it did not.

1594. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158206 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 8:05 am

A massive 60 year conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands of people that has not been refuted in all that time, with a mass of corroborating evidence to support it plus eyewitness and direct testimony that has not been recanted.

Gee. Sounds really easy to organise. You'd also think that modern Germans might have something to say about this monstrous conspiracy.

1595. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158164 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 6:53 am

Epeeist-

excellent. I now have the Stonecutters' song in my head!

1596. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #158154 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 6:39 am

I should probably leave this alone, but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution

A key passage to note:

In Heinrich Himmler's speech at the Posen Conference of October 6, 1943, Himmler, for the first time, clearly elucidated to all assembled leaders of the Reich, in frank and brutal terms, what the "Final Solution" referred to.

So much for there being no central plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_holocaust

This contains more than, quite frankly, I reckon that most people would want to know about what went on.

1597. Fleabytes

Comment #158149 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 6:18 am

Anna-

it says very little, and I'm sad to say was exactly as I expected. You can bet this will come up in the future as well; he probably use it for ammo in one of his talks.

1598. Fleabytes

Comment #158085 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 4:01 am

Incredulous-

I noticed. And for me it is the afternoon....now.

1599. Fleabytes

Comment #158077 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 3:48 am

I'm not taking a position on this, I'm just linking to the posts when I find them.

Epeeist-

like all good Biblical prophecies, Keith's was after the fact. Richard Morgan was back on Fleabytes yesterday (comment 7532).

1600. Fleabytes

Comment #158071 by Quetzalcoatl on April 10, 2008 at 3:41 am

Brian-

what's with the lurking? And why delete your posts?