1601. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #46674 by Philip1978 on June 1, 2007 at 3:57 am

Cheers Billy, I see, so not only have you found god (mitrochondrial uncoupler, it all makes sense now!) but have now started playing god as well!!

Keep up the go(o)d work! hehehhe

1602. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #46664 by Philip1978 on June 1, 2007 at 3:36 am

Billy, its no good you smart arse, I can't quite grasp what a mitrochondrial uncoupler does!! Is it something that is involved with the heart or respiration?

1603. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #46651 by Philip1978 on June 1, 2007 at 2:46 am

Woo hoo! David thinks my posts are a waste! My work here is done!!

1604. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #46640 by Philip1978 on June 1, 2007 at 12:53 am

I remember reading a Bertrand Russell book, I think it was Why I am not a Christian, where he examines a particular story of Jesus.

Jesus discovers that there are some demons, who being naughty in His sight have possessed some poor unsuspecting men causing them to cause complete havoc near a farm or something. So big J pitches up, sends the demons off to possess a herd of pigs who then going mad with frenzy go hurl themselves off a cliff. Funnily enough, like Bertrand, I have a bit of a problem with this one. David perhaps you could help with this one as well if you feel up to it.

Now I am no vegetarian but isn't this a bit cruel on the pigs? I mean there they were happily crapping and grazing away as is the wont of pigs and then they are forcibly possessed by demons to go hurl themselves off a cliff

Couldn't big J simply yell an Almighty "Bugger ye off! and cast the demons back to hell without using the pigs? I mean now the poor chap who owned them has to find a new herd, probably was saving them up to get enough money to feed himself or even his family etc Oh but its alright, its Big J, Son of Gawd himself.

What exactly was the moral of this story, if you are possessed and in need of help make sure there is a spare cliff and some pigs nearby?

Was Jesus an anti capitalist? I mean he obviously doesn't approve of Interest Rate fluctuation or he wouldn't have kicked the crap out of the money lenders and here he is ruining the farming economy as well! Then there is the fishing and bread industry, there he is in front of 5000 people and hands out all the fish and bread to those around for FREE!I think I can recall something about him mending the fishing nets and there being one hell of a catch but I still feel he was up to something!

Can anyone help me out here on any other instances of Jesus sabotaging the economic growth of Jerusalem?

1605. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #46430 by Philip1978 on May 31, 2007 at 7:41 am

David,

You laugh at my view of history, fine, I find the fact that you talk to an invisible "god" and have not been locked up for it laughable but each to our own. People who hear voices in their heads claiming Elvis is talking to them have been, I see at as simply swapping Elvis for your god!

I have to ask this one, I did after all make claims to there being a plethora of gods to believe in, so lets concentrate on yours, since you used the name Knox and he was a Calvanist? yes? Sorry about the Catholic thing, but hey ho you grew up in the right area for Presbyterianism, its all the same to me anyway.
Presbyterianism, hmm, being Protestant was too rubbish was it?
So are you a Four-point Calvinist? Neo-Calvinist?(Is that the Matrix version? arf arf!)Christian Reconstructionist? Lapsarianist? Hyper-Calvinist?
I heard something about Scottish Reformist, does the above apply to any of them or is that a different one too
Then I heard some reformists went off and formed unions from others like Congregationalists, Anglicans, and Methodists? Heretics?

Bloody hell the list goes on, so many reforms in Scotland, Ireland, Canada and America and each with their own wild ideas over what amounts to being the same religion!! I mean for goodness sake, how do you end up choosing the right one? Or has your god simply predetermined it and might forgive you for choosing Hyper Calvinism over the Neo one if he is feeling particularly merciful? Or did he predetermine the one you were going for and simply for a giggle is going to kick your backside into hell anyway!

You have read the bible for 25 years? Do you keep missing out on the Old Testament or you just gathering your mates to hunt the rest of us down for a good old fashioned stoning to death cos we told you your god is false?

Who are you going to go for first? My betting is on Steve99 (sorry mate, its his god who hates you, not me I promise!) cos he is gay and obviously the biggest abomination of us all. So what if the guy happens to have the same feelings men that you have for women, the man was predetermined by god to fall in love with men so your religion could persecute him!

Belgium to all of it, like you said, I don;t understand any of it and quite frankly I don't want to. How you can say you have a divine right to sleep with women but he can't sleep with another consenting adult male? Its like me saying you have to support the English Rugby team because I say they have a divine right to win the 6 Nations each year!
I know you were expecting people to have a go at you for this but I don't condone what you think about Steve99 and other gay people, he has every right to decide what he wants and good on him for it.
I'm probably being arrogant again so I will go away and leave you alone, sorry about the rant again guys, I got bored at work!

Philip

1606. Another Christian Science Fair embarrasses itself

Comment #46058 by Philip1978 on May 30, 2007 at 5:18 am

Epeeist, am not knocking myself I promise, just don't mind admitting I lack knowledge in some areas! But whilst you have your strengths I bet I could wipe the floor with you playing the guitar! hehehehe

Rock on!

Philip

1607. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #46050 by Philip1978 on May 30, 2007 at 4:35 am

Hehehehe, I concede Billy, you have a marvellous country that has produced some amazing people and still is. Plus, I may be wrong, but I read somewhere that you guys invented curry!

pewkatchoo you are actually not too far from the truth, my mum is amazing at sewing plus she works part time at a doctor's surgery so mending my face after a good Glasgow kiss should be a breeze!

I promise I shall save my "breathtaking arrogance" and my "pure boiling English hatred" for the rugby pitch where it belongs!

Tally ho!
Philip

1608. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #46043 by Philip1978 on May 30, 2007 at 4:21 am

David, whoops, I misread what you said to Adrian and Drive1 when they questioned your religion

"I have never come across a more fundamentalist mindset in my life."

"One thing I have come to understand though, is that the last thing atheist fundamentalists want, is discussion. After all, there is nothing to discuss. You already know the truth."

You have to admit you did type it!

I have asked you to explain how your 1st Century bible claims to have the dearth of knowledge wisdom that you believe in. I explained that your god of the bible and dear old Jesus were all parodies of a multitude other religions, even up to easter being changed from a pagan festival into the suicide mission story of Jesus.

I have asked you about the Council of Nicaea being a group of human men being the ones who knocked the bible together into what it is now and not being the divine inspired word your god.

I have asked about spelling mistakes and mistranslations in the time it got to even be in English.

I asked you why it had to be your god. When I got a useless answer I decided to give you a hint as to why you are a Catholic and not a Muslim, its most probably due to your environment and upbringing.

I asked you to give not praying a go and tell me if there was any difference to your life.


Dammit, I even hurled Epicurus at you! You didn't ask for the quote but I will anyway

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

Loads of others on here have also been wiping the floor with you, with much better arguments than I have put forward and I still can't comprehend why you insist on swapping magic for reason.

I am with Yorker on this and I will now take his sage advice, I shouldn't bother any more, I am being naive in thinking you could possibly see things even remotely near how I and others view the world of your religion. Look at the debate between Sam Harris and Andrew Sullivan on this site, Sullivan got well and truly defeated yet still clung on his god for protection and comfort just like you are doing now. You are not going to change are you?

Funny, because I am an optimist and I still have hope you will understand the futility of believing in magic and gods over real life.

But for now I will leave you alone to quibble with people's words and not answer anything. Unless of course I get the most amazing post back from you, complete with the irrefutable evidence of your god's property rights to the universe and how he/she/can exist!

bye

Philip

1609. Another Christian Science Fair embarrasses itself

Comment #45989 by Philip1978 on May 30, 2007 at 1:18 am

Nails and all you other crazy scientists, thanks for that, was really interesting. I am a rather rubbish English and History student whose grasp of the Sciences is about as tenuous as my belief in god! Thanks for making what I find very difficult to understand less foggy!
Philip

1610. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #45768 by Philip1978 on May 29, 2007 at 6:54 am

I expect he had the wind knocked out of him by my "breathtaking arrogance"! I know I am a scary man when I get ranting, the pure English hatred boiling inside me etc. I am surprised even you have the guts to swap posts with me, I guess some of you Scotsmen are more brave than others! hehehehe!

1611. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #45720 by Philip1978 on May 29, 2007 at 4:40 am

Its ok Billy, he has been busy calling us fundamentalists on the Professor Winston post!! Seems he is not best pleased to say the least!

1612. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Robert Winston

Comment #45716 by Philip1978 on May 29, 2007 at 4:20 am

David/Knox/Flea

"This really is drivel. You guys are small minded, petty and pathetic."

Say what you really mean David, don't hold back on our account!!

Please look up the word fundamentalist because you obviously don't know what it means, it most certainly does not include everyone who questions your religion and god. A fundamentalist does not change his mind despite evidence to suggest otherwise. I for one simply need PROOF and EVIDENCE to change my mind but since your god is never around to prove his/her/its existence I don't think its going to happen any time soon is it?

I don't like to discuss anything with you David, all I get is abuse for finding your religion ridiculous and unhelpful. Your best argument so far is "He exists" but after that you simply bawl and make a lot of noise about how much of an idiot you deem me to be.

So stop insulting everybody and provide proper, well thought out evidence and then we might discuss something.

Philip

1613. Another Christian Science Fair embarrasses itself

Comment #44699 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 7:36 am

If he had done it properly he could have prayed with the right amount of "faith" and got his god to create it for him!

1614. The Blairs' Witch Project

Comment #44651 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 6:27 am

What they need to do is ban people like that ever getting into office, but such is dear old blighty, hey ho!
Speaking of strange, I have been walking around with a Tazmanian Devil towel around my shoulders to participate in Towel Day in memory of Douglas Adams.

Now, imagine a 6 ft tall ape descendant walking around a supermarket, red towel with Taz and his huge teeth glaring at the world...nobody batted an eyelid. I have concluded that as long as you act completely natural nobody questions anything!! I have been giggling all day long, its great, the only person who noticed was my boss and he laughed his head off!

1615. Creationist Periodic Table of the Elements

Comment #44538 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 4:09 am

Cheers Billy! Brilliant!

1616. Adult breast-feeding sucks, authorities say

Comment #44536 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 4:07 am

HAHAHAHAHAHA! So a man with his lips firmly planted on his female co-worker's breast is nothing deemed sexual at all! I am sure you could work together and look each other in the eye after that one!

Reminds me of office parties where people end up sleeping with each other after drinking too much!

Ezzat Attiya, nice try mate, using religion to be a pervert!!

1617. Baby's 'miracle' recovery in British hospital to give Malta its first saint

Comment #44526 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 3:41 am

Oh my dear dog!

We have something that happened we don't understand yet...ermmmmmm

"GODDIDIT!

1618. Heliocentrism is an Atheist Doctrine

Comment #44523 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 3:37 am

Erm, I don't understand the author's intention here, it says all this religious stuff and then puts it next to the correct stuff and... I am so confused!!

My history could be a little hazy here but wasn't Galileo FORCED/asked in an Inquisitorial manner by the church to give up his theory?

1619. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #44494 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 2:01 am

Belgium to this, I have decided I want my questions answered properly before I devote any more time to creating new ones

WeeFlea/Knox?/etc

I would like you to think about this question and then answer it nicely, I am not going to play word games with you because all we seem to be doing is insulting one another and quite frankly its getting us nowhere

When I asked why does it have to be your god and what makes him so special over the cornucopia of other gods I knew straight away what I thought the answer was, I wanted to hear your side of it.

In my opinion its simple, if you had been brought up in Islamabad you would not be a Christian, you would be a Muslim, if you had been raised in Egypt in 2500BC no doubt the Book of the Dead might have been handed to you at some point very much like how you probably got your bible. Ok so sometimes there are exceptions to the rule but on the whole your religion is the product of your environment.

Things could have been different for me, I went to a church of England school and my parents didn't tell me what they believed until I was about 12, they let me decide what to do. I chose when I was about 8 years old to stop praying and things went on from there. I made that choice because I wanted to see what the world was like if I didn't bow my head to the floor like everyone else and I have to say, it didn't change a thing. I really do suggest you give that some thought too but, I want this question answered first, why does it have to be your god?

If I get further abuse I will ignore you, if you want this intelligent chat then fine, I am all ears and ready to type!

Philip

1620. Gay row US Anglicans miss summit

Comment #44308 by Philip1978 on May 24, 2007 at 8:28 am

Daniel Stoker, you might want to denounce the Holy Ghost in front of your local parish or something, that one will keep you out of the churches good books forever! Being gay is pretty bad in the church's eyes but insulting the holy ghost is a sure way to really cement things!

Joking aside I think you have already done what you needed to, do you really think having your head dunked in water and some idiot wiffling with a few latin words means anything?

1621. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #44305 by Philip1978 on May 24, 2007 at 8:04 am

Cheers ghostbuster, will definitely have a good look and I really appreciate the help, I think I have a few books on the subject as well.

Though thinking about it, I would like an apology from WeeFree/Knox/David if I am going to do this for him, right now I don't think he deserves it

1622. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #44301 by Philip1978 on May 24, 2007 at 7:10 am

My breathtaking arrogance? hehehehehehhe! Ok everyone, who here thinks I have breathtaking arrogance? If I have ever been wrong or mistaken I have accepted it and apologised for my behaviour!

I feel sorry for you, I don't hate you or your god!

Don't question my intelligence, that's even more pathetic, I have insulted nothing but your god and I asked you to go away think about it. Instead you insulted and poured scorn on me and made me out to be someone I am not.

I asked you some simple questions which you have not answered yet, you seem more intent on making me look bad.

By the way, I read other books other than the bible to gain knowledge and this is the only atheist website I visit regularly, I will go and dredge up what I can on Constantine and the Council of Nicaea in 325 and pass it on when I am not so busy

If however, all you want to do is bawl at me, forget it, I don't get intimidated by bullies, I have more important things to do

Philip

1623. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #44273 by Philip1978 on May 24, 2007 at 1:56 am

Right, sorry to go COMPLETELY off the beaten path here but I would like to remind you all that it is in fact Towel Day tomorrow! In memory of that hoopy frood Douglas Adams, an author who has been one of the best influences on my life. Here is a link for all you strags who have no idea as to the importance of knowing where your towel is!
http://www.towelday.kojv.net/
Enjoy!

1624. Shark virgin birth mystery is solved

Comment #44023 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 7:41 am

Spoilsport!!

1625. Shark virgin birth mystery is solved

Comment #44020 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 7:32 am

I have just been listening to Marilyn Manson's Disposable Teens song and he claims he is a "survived abortion", surely that is better and far more miraculous than simply being born from a virgin! Should I start worshipping him now?

1626. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #44017 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 7:28 am

Billy, wasn't there that chicken that lived for a few years after it had lost its head? Some bit of its cerebellum hadn't quite been severed and it trotted around quite happily, became quite the celebrity from what I heard!

1627. The Conversion of the Casual Evolutionist - You can't spell love without evolve

Comment #43944 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 4:37 am

Ah so that's why I am single and will remain so for a long time, am wearing the wrong genes!

1628. Despite what the scholars say, God isn't dead yet

Comment #43939 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 4:29 am

mjwemdee, I would suggest you read my posts before you start typing things like that hehehehe!

1629. Shark virgin birth mystery is solved

Comment #43925 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 4:11 am

Yikes chaps, if nature carries on this way we are on the road to being superfluous! hehehehe

1630. Despite what the scholars say, God isn't dead yet

Comment #43891 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 3:31 am

Oh bugger, so Rachael is not a man's name then?!!!

Cheers BicycleRepairMan, shows I still have a lot of work to do before I can become the smart arse I am acting like! I wont edit it, I will leave it as another reminder that I should ALWAYS stop and read!

1631. Despite what the scholars say, God isn't dead yet

Comment #43875 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 3:14 am

HITLER WAS A CATHOLIC!

Oh my dear dog, did this man not do his research?

GOTT MIT UNS? Ring any bells?

1632. Liberty U student plotted to set off explosives, police say

Comment #43871 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 3:01 am

Yikes, I don't like the Phelps family but that's taking things a bit far!

Joking aside, is it Bizzaro who goes to Liberty U? If you are reading this, did you know this Uhl guy? I only say this because I went to the same school as one of the lads who was involved in the bomb plot last year in England. Like the 9/11 and July bombers these guys are pretty much normal sort of middle class people who have never appeared to be prepared to do this sort of thing. Ok I dont agree with what is taught at Liberty Uni but this is terrible, I hope Bizzaro (if it is you who goes there) that you are going to be safe at this time plus I would like to hear your opinion, take care,

Philip

1633. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43854 by Philip1978 on May 23, 2007 at 1:10 am

Is that it? That was rubbish!

You personally question all the time? Who or what are you questioning because you can't be asking the right questions if the only answer is "I believe because He is god"

Actually there is a whole mega market of gods to go with, I dare not list them all but you obviously are oblivious to the world around you. Why not Allah? Thor? The Malaysian Tea God? The Flying Spaghetti Monster? The list is endless and yet you picked old Yahweh off the shopping trolley and I have a fair idea why, will get back to that in a sec but first, the bible!

This god of the bible, is it the one before Emperor Constantine and his mates got their hands on it or after?

The bible is the most inaccurate and contemptible drivel I have ever had the misfortune of reading. The Inerrant word of your god? How come there are so many howling mistakes in it? Hardly any of the authors can agree on anything and think about how many translations its been through to get to you, what are the chances it might have changed somewhat from it original form? People thinking, hmm, that could do with touching up a bit? Why is the god in the old testament a complete bastard to everyone yet Jesus pops up in the new testament saying, sure he loves you etc? Incidentally, on the subject of god loving you, can you refute that quote by Epicurus, I am sure you have heard it so I wont bother quoting it unless you want me to. In all fairness your god is still a complete sod and always will be, I hope you realise that one day

Right, lets think about this, a good example is the story of Jesus, the existence of this chap alone is pretty laughable since there are no historical records other than the bible and yet this chap is wondering around Jerusalem doing miracles whilst on his suicide mission for his dad.
However, you go back 2500 years or so to the Egyptians and you have the god Ossiris and funnily enough his story is remarkably similar to that of Jesus. He performed miracles, dies and wakes up fighting ready to launch himself off to heaven. What are the chances of this story spreading to Jerusalem? Pretty high if you think about it, most religions around that time were spread by word of mouth, told in stories and passed down the generations. That is why you will find similar stories from the Sumerians etc entering into the bible

Then, this is the funny part, in 325 AD the Roman Emperor Constantine and his mates decide to have a meeting in Nicea . They end up voting on all sorts of things including what should go in the bible and what should not, Jesus's divinity won by 4 votes! Now was this your god deliberating over this or men? Was this an Emperor realising he could have control over a vast section of Europe by simply declaring a new religion? They cherry picked the gospels, created the heirachy of bishops etc, easter... the list goes on. All of these festivals that you celebrate over the years are all pagan festivals anyway, simply changed to make it easier for the pagans to adapt to the new religion.

See this is why I dont believe in your god or anyone else's, humans created their gods, not the other way around. You tell me

"I believe in the God of the Bible for the same reason that I believe that the world is round, it is and He is." (You believe your god is rotund? Needs to eat less divine pies?)

But your bible tells you the world is flat and 6000 years old, dear me David, oh boy have you been committing heresy! You have defied the lord himself, he will not be best pleased!


Now tell me, would you believe that if you grew up in Islamabad or 2500BC Egypt? No you would not, you would have been told otherwise when you were a kid and you would have trusted the adults who told you which god to believe in.

Saying you believe because you believe is simply not enough, you are not questioning enough or even using the right questions. Reason with yourself, I dare you to be an atheist for a day, look at the world differently and see how it feels. I believed possibly when I was a kid so I have technically been a Christian but rejected it when I was about 8. It was prayer that did it for me, I stopped praying and the world did not change in the slightest. I dare you to do the same and see what you come up with.

Sorry about the rant kids but I am aghast at how little it takes for poor David to believe in his sky god

Please think about your next post and I look forward to seeing what you have to say, cheers, Philip

1634. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43662 by Philip1978 on May 22, 2007 at 8:26 am

...Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers...

I admit I have a bit of a naughty mind, its what you get from studying Shakespeare and his double entendres, but is that insinuating that the god whom you can only "know" is the lord himself. I am simply curious cos to "know" someone in the biblical sense means more than acknowledge their existence!

Funny how someone can misconstrue the meaning of the bible, who would have thought that possible?!

1635. Cult leader sparks Sikh riots with 'guru' stunt

Comment #43642 by Philip1978 on May 22, 2007 at 7:03 am

Logicel, my heresy knows no bounds, for when I air my trousers during June I have been known to wear other trousers and even boxer shorts!

Therefore my corrupted and sinful mind made light of your husband's ways and "divinely inspired aplomb"! The chances of me repenting for my sins may happen when I could air my trousers with the right woman! But alas, I could be branded as having a copycat religion to that of your husband! So forever in sin shall I wonder!

1636. Cult leader sparks Sikh riots with 'guru' stunt

Comment #43591 by Philip1978 on May 22, 2007 at 4:46 am

Logicel, I see you are a happy woman, married to a man with "divinely inspired aplomb", do you wish it was more than once a month?! (I have heard of several ways of describing it but this one sure does pay him compliments!!)

Sorry, in a saucy mood today, behave Philip!

1637. Cult leader sparks Sikh riots with 'guru' stunt

Comment #43585 by Philip1978 on May 22, 2007 at 4:28 am

Suki, a person died because of this "blasphemy", I don't call that peaceful, I call it barbaric and wasteful.

1638. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43553 by Philip1978 on May 22, 2007 at 1:47 am

WeeFlea/Knox/etc

Why my non belief in gods? I have evidence!


By the way, you are not my "enemy", I simply want a discussion

I used that phrase "dont question it" simply because faith is made up that way, you don't have evidence, you have faith which you do not question at all!

Right, on to your god, Why that one?

1639. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43382 by Philip1978 on May 21, 2007 at 8:18 am

Wee Flea/Knox/etc

The only reason "why the same atheist arguments appear in every book and on every thread in atheist websites" is because you theists obfuscate and give appalling answers like "my god did it, don't question it" to the questions we give out!

Again, I am going to ask the same question until I get the right answer

Why does it have to be your god?

Philip

1640. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #43297 by Philip1978 on May 21, 2007 at 4:34 am

Epeeist, technically we have already done the Negative Punishment by taking their god away from them but that has not seemed to have affected their behaviour in the outcome we had hoped!

1641. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #43233 by Philip1978 on May 21, 2007 at 1:57 am

Bizarro, I am almost insulted!

I asked you a very simple question, why does it HAVE to be your god? I rather thought that you could provide a better argument than "Because I and my book said so"!

If you feel that gracing this forum with an answer to a very simple question is beneath you, so be it. I will simply deduce that you can't answer it and are backing it up with delusions of grandeur!

1642. Pedal power takes Islamic shape in Iran

Comment #42410 by Philip1978 on May 18, 2007 at 7:04 am

Luthien, its god's reminder to us not to think about sex when riding a bike! Its in the bible somewhere at the back...

"And lo he rodeth his bike,with his mind filled with lusty thoughts about "knowing" the virgin next door. The man then didst almost runneth into his neighbour's father, who did begot the virgin and lo he had to stopeth most quick in order that he might not smite his neighbour with his bike. Forwards did he flyeth into his crossbar with his balls and cryeth did he with much gnashing of teeth and pain!

and god did sayeth unto him
"HA! THAT'LL TEACH THEE!"

1643. Global Warming (includes commentary about creationism)

Comment #42389 by Philip1978 on May 18, 2007 at 6:30 am

On September 14, 2001, Milloy claimed that the World Trade Center towers could still be standing, or at least would have stood longer, had asbestos lagging not been removed in the years prior to 2001 due to health concerns. The asbestos removal was not mentioned in the National Institute of Standards and Technology's report on the Towers' collapse, which noted that the planes' impact dislodged any fireproofing that might have prevented the collapse
(Nicked this from Wikipedia but I think it proves a point)

Hmm, interesting chap this Milloy

1644. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42306 by Philip1978 on May 18, 2007 at 3:57 am

Billy, you are the lucky one to get any responses at all, Devolved and Bizzaro have never answered my questions! Fascinating thread with Mark Taunton by the way, I have been enjoying reading all of that, has been very interesting.

I keep repeating myself simply cos, like Arthur Dent, I want to see who rusts first!

1645. Pedal power takes Islamic shape in Iran

Comment #42299 by Philip1978 on May 18, 2007 at 3:36 am

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

THERES A WOMAN! SHE IS RIDING A BIKE...AND I CAN SEE HER LEFT EAR...WHY HASN'T GOD TAUGHT ME HOW TO TREAT WOMEN PROPERLY? WHY DOES THIS BOOK OF MINE TELL ME TO ONLY TREAT THEM LIKE SLAVES AND OBJECTS OF MY LUST?

Devolution, after you with the hammer old boy...

1646. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42293 by Philip1978 on May 18, 2007 at 3:18 am

Women, behave yourself!

Careful now Veronique, Logicel, Rachel, you obviously need a man to help you with your well thought out and highly interesting posts, your hatred of men means your intelligent arguments are clouded and false. My goodness some of you are even being funny, now that's a man's job for starters! Rachel, I know you are gay but that's beside the point, god doesn't like you for it and so you obviously still need a man to coach you along! Plus stop riding bikes, you are provoking men's lust hehehehehehe! Only religion can make such pathetic assumptions about women!

Bizzaro, Devolved, keep believing your god is great and the earth is only about 6000 years old, you are obviously right, being men of course!

Stop claiming your god is the only one to have bounced into existence, you have a whole host of others to fend off before yours wins the title of "supreme deity of the universe"! The argument "Its obvious he exists cos he always has" as you have noticed tends to gets the rest of us questioning your lack of evidence on this matter.

Why is it so difficult for your god to pop into a science lab, show how he does his magic under proper testing and then say hi to the world? I would have more respect for your god if he did, but alas, he went about it in the most complex manner and does not allow us mere mortals to question it!

1647. Hitchens on Falwell

Comment #41834 by Philip1978 on May 17, 2007 at 6:49 am

I prefer interviews like that, let the person speak then ask some challenging questions in between, makes you feel the interviewer actually wants to hear the arguments. O Reily looked scared when interviewing Professor Dawkins, didn't let him say anything and spoke nonsense himself (Sun goes up...etc!) Bravo Mr Anderson Cooper

1648. How dare you call me a fundamentalist

Comment #41796 by Philip1978 on May 17, 2007 at 4:14 am

To Knox/WeeFlea/That Robertson chap!

I quote you a line from one of my favourite songs by Muse, its called Knights of Cydonia

"Come ride with me, through the veins of history and I'll show you a god that falls asleep on the job"

Seems rather apt for your god really, he/she/it doesn't do anything and yet your religion demands complete subservience, hows that for pathetic?

Rock on, Philip

1649. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41788 by Philip1978 on May 17, 2007 at 3:12 am

GBile, that one is easy, do it in Millilitres! The amount of p*ss taken when any fundy opens his or her mouth!

1650. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41520 by Philip1978 on May 16, 2007 at 8:24 am

Dower, I fail to see how Rachel Holmes is hate mongering, she has made a very valid point, as have others, about attacking Falwell's ideas and standing up to people like him with better and more helpful comments than he ever made in his lifetime.