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1751. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #149771 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 8:12 am

My thoughts on this and the article Tyler found:

http://musingsofastrangemind.blogspot.com/2008/03/power-of-prayer.html

Probably the most I've sworn in a blog post.

1752. Fleabytes

Comment #149741 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 7:41 am

The Reverend Dark-

perhaps everyone would have more respect for Seagal if he was an action hero that was actually prepared to get hit in his films. I've seen a lot of his films where he doesn't get so much as a scratch. He's a pansy.

1753. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #149733 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 7:36 am

This is a prime example of the stupidity of much of religion. With faith you can move mountains, prayer can heal the ill. Then when people who actually believe that crap try it, this is what happens. Shameful.

The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."


Just wait until one of them gets ill.

JemyM-

they're not evil, just very, very stupid.

1754. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149663 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 4:42 am

Corylus-

better you than Ratzinger!

1755. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149660 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 4:36 am

Clearmind-

what a load of drivel.

1756. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149649 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:45 am

Steve-

It can allow for those


So then you wouldn't be able to say that it "points the way", would you?

1757. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149643 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:33 am

Steve-

do you feel that a belief in the Mayan Snake God would be of assistance here


I certainly do!

1758. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149635 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:07 am

Irate-

We have no good reason to believe that it was intelligently designed


Agreed. There is no evidence of irreducible complexity; or any complexity at all, for that matter.

1759. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149632 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:02 am

Fides et ratio-

Cardinal O Brien was calling for MPs to be given a free vote


No, what he was actually calling for was for Catholic MPs to be able to vote following their conscience. And by conscience he meant Catholic church doctrine.

It's this sort of oppresive, intolerant behaviour that athiesm inevitable leads to


Wrong. Atheism does not "lead" to anything specific. It is not a doctrine.

1760. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149613 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 2:12 am

Steve-

it's less of a genesis and more of a resurrection of an opinion.

1761. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149157 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 7:46 am

There are churches in America that are big on the snake-handling. They have a high turnover in the congregation.

I think someone died recently thanks to a snake bite, and the family threatened to sue the church for allowing it to happen.

1762. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149107 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 6:03 am

al-rawandi-

this is exactly what I meant. I do remember reading a quote somewhere (although I can't remember what it was) that suggested he had some cultural arrogance, in common with most Britons of his day. But he was never a racist.

Bibanu-

I am ready for your attacks. Though - it would be nice if you (at least some of you) would act un-Darwinian here (like your master recommends :)) and not attack me too savagely.


There will be no attacks, as long as you refrain from using loaded phrases like "master". Leave those out of it, and I'm sure we'll get along just fine.

1763. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149101 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 5:55 am

Bibanu-

Indeed - Hitler used religion (it seems like) for his own bad ends. That does NOT mean that religion (at least not all religion) is inherently bad.


Nobody said that it was.

There is no evidence to suggest that Darwin was a racist, either, at least not in any particularly strong sense. In common with many Victorians, he may well have looked down on other races, without being particularly bigoted about it. (Indeed, at that time the British in general looked down on the rest of the world, mainly because we were the greatest nation at that time and had a bloody great big Empire). But there is certainly no evidence that Darwin advocated extermination, or anything like that.

1764. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149087 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 5:25 am

Steve-

I think the debate may be of general interest when it is over - what happens when theology clashes with science in terms of the mind.


I have a sneaking suspicion that your opponent will tend to wander off-topic, as he did with his first rebuttal. I could be wrong (in fact I hope I am), but I suspect he will focus on something specific you say and extend it beyond what you intended.

But we shall see.

1765. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149068 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 4:33 am

But that does not really bother RD - ad hominem attack is his main weapon and anything he can do to link Christianity to the ridiculous - he will do.


That ripping sound was my sides splitting.

On a separate note- Steve, read your latest post in the debate: very good.

1766. Two More Fleas

Comment #149059 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 4:04 am

Philip-

I think he would have to be put on a tea drip, have it fed directly into his bloodstream. At the same time, we could hire a primary school teacher to tell him about evolution. Two birds with one stone.

1767. Two More Fleas

Comment #149045 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 3:20 am

Philip1978-

No Tea Horizon


Beware the No Tea Horizon. Beyond it lies a terrible, miserable, tealess place, the inhabitants of which gibber insanely to themselves and drool a lot, giving themselves names like "clearmind" and "wooter". It is indeed a wretched land.

1768. Two More Fleas

Comment #149039 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 3:03 am

irate_atheist-

recently there was a sale on teabags where you could get 100% extra free- in my case 160 for the price of 80. Very good value.

1769. Fleabytes

Comment #149035 by Quetzalcoatl on March 25, 2008 at 2:43 am

Richard Morgan-

Today I am 62


A 62-year-old should know how to be clearer about such statements. No birthday wishes from me until the actual date. I don't think that's unreasonable.

1770. Two More Fleas

Comment #148910 by Quetzalcoatl on March 24, 2008 at 2:50 pm

irate_atheist-

that's very careless of you, neglecting your responsibilities like that. Don't let it happen again.

1771. Fleabytes

Comment #147873 by Quetzalcoatl on March 21, 2008 at 1:35 pm

Artful_Dodger-

since you're back, how about providing us with evidence for objections to materialism that you promised?

1772. Fleabytes

Comment #147388 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 8:59 am

Star Spangled Eagle-

15 of course includes the title page plus the index and the page with details of who printed it and so forth.

1773. Fleabytes

Comment #147382 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 8:53 am

They're actually planning to bring out The Bible 2, removing some of the errors found in the original.

Total number of pages: 15.

1774. Fleabytes

Comment #147309 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 6:17 am

Richard Morgan-

tea is the sacred drink of Quetzalcoatl. Can't get more spiritual than that!

1775. Fleabytes

Comment #147301 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 6:09 am

Richard Morgan-

if you're taking requests, how about a song about tea?

1776. Fleabytes

Comment #147280 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 5:28 am

Steve-

how would you feel about the words "imbues" or "emparts"?

1777. Fleabytes

Comment #147275 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 5:19 am

Not that I'm trying to add fuel to the fire or anything, but he also said that science will NEVER be able to explain consciousness without God.

1778. Fleabytes

Comment #147246 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 4:30 am

Brian, don't be so bitter just because everyone ignored Clairpenser.

1779. Fleabytes

Comment #147221 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 3:33 am

Clearthinker-

The child abuse thing is not a lie. Read ch. 9 of TGD. I will be dealing with this in more detail when I finally get back to Paula's review of my book. Let me state it quite simply - RD equates religion with child abuse


Under certain circumstances. But what you said on the night was:

the harm done by teaching children religion is as bad as sexual abuse


Which is completely different. It may not be absolutely verbatim, but I wrote things down as you said them to ensure that they were accurate.

Incidentally, I was fairly sure that you didn't know about the Ham woman, thanks for clearing it up.

1780. Fleabytes

Comment #147202 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 3:11 am

Pathfinder-

Finally, I suppose I should thank you for the welter of insults. Most useful for our church's newsletter, ALL having been documented


So presumably you will have included the one where you compared one of our posters to the mass-murderer Dr Harold Shipman? I'm sure THAT will go down well with the congregation.

1781. Fleabytes

Comment #147199 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 3:07 am

Pathfinder-

Most of you seem to have pitched tent on this website, too - do you live ENTIRELY online


Well, as a god I exist both in the physical world, the spiritual world and in cyberspace. So not ENTIRELY online.


I could go on to cite hundreds of examples, from people being cured of TERMINAL CANCER through prayer - these are well documented


Show us the links.

We all know what they say about converts, don't we?


No.

1782. Fleabytes

Comment #147191 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 2:47 am

irate_atheist-

Fantastic, superb, top notch. But why no socks?


Because Robertson & co didn't mention them? Maybe he will when he returns today?

1783. Fleabytes

Comment #147184 by Quetzalcoatl on March 20, 2008 at 2:26 am

Oh no, Brian and I seem to have dragged this thread down. Let's get back to weightier matters.

So... what did everyone think of Paula's review?

1784. Fleabytes

Comment #146981 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 4:00 pm

Goldy-

yes, but the Germans also wear lederhosen. Shudder.

Well, I'm off now.

1785. Fleabytes

Comment #146973 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Brian-

have you considered that everything is as Lee suggests, EXCEPT that there is a malevolent God who is just making YOU think that he's just created everything, for a laugh?

Now that would be fun.

No idea who Pathfinder is. I suspect he's genuine and not a puppet. Earlier he compared Dr Benway to Dr Harold Shipman. That did NOT impress me.

1786. Fleabytes

Comment #146964 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:27 pm

No, Brutus was just a heel.

Steve, we'll miss you! I'll keep my eye on your blog in the meantime.

1787. Fleabytes

Comment #146957 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:23 pm

You are a veritable library of information :)

The Romans wore sandals a lot. As everyone knows, you never wear socks with sandals.

1788. Fleabytes

Comment #146950 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:18 pm

Very interesting. I wonder what Calcanei means. Perhaps it means "the first time was amusing, the second will not be". Who knows???

How's life in Australasia treating you?

1789. Fleabytes

Comment #146946 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:14 pm

Brian-

thanks. For some reason the old pic appeared as the avatar of another poster. That better not happen again...

1790. Fleabytes

Comment #146941 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:09 pm

Steve-

you might have to restrict yourself to certain threads to keep yourself from being overwhelmed!

1791. Fleabytes

Comment #146929 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Evening all. If we're doing phrases:

"The past is another world, lost to us forever".

1792. God's cure for gays lost in sin

Comment #146655 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 9:03 am

al-rawandi-

Now, if it was lesbian porn or a David Robertson lecture, I am going to have to say Lesbian Porn


No argument there.

1793. God's cure for gays lost in sin

Comment #146638 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 8:39 am

Annabanana-

perhaps Jesus and Judas had some kind of lovers' quarrel, and things just got out of hand :)

PS- checked my PM, got nothing.

1794. God's cure for gays lost in sin

Comment #146615 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 8:19 am

Homosexuality - PRACTISING homosexuality, is a sin, as you no doubt know from your Leviticus. As a Christian I take a love-the-sinner-hate the sin view and have no problem with gays, any more than I do with lepers. For whatever reason under the Divine Protocol, Satan has targeted them and their salvation lies in turning to God for help. Homosexuality is abnormal, it rules out procreation, and you can say what you like about other species exhibiting same-sex sexual proclivities but animals do not have CELESTIAL HELP, or awareness of the divine.


What rubbish. You have a problem with Practicing homosexuals. What happens when they get good enough that they don't need to practice any more?

A stupid answer, to a stupid statement. And what the heck is the Divine Protocol?

Look at the ranks of the famous who have remained happily married, in spite of their dastardly inclinations


Dastardly inclinations? Have we stumbled into an episode of "Wacky Races?"

1795. Fleabytes

Comment #146584 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 7:55 am

Annabanana-

thanks to you for the comment on my blog. Saw your blog as well; very interesting reading, I must say.

1796. Fleabytes

Comment #146579 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 7:51 am

Pathfinder-

comparing Dr Benway to Harold Shipman is an extremely cheap shot. I hope there will be no more insults in that vein.

I think that alone should clear up any lingering thoughts in anyone's minds that I or Brian might have been Pathfinder.

On a separate note-

thanks very much to everyone who has left comments about my report, both here and on my blog. It's much appreciated.

1797. Flipping particle could explain missing antimatter

Comment #146557 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 7:35 am

Read this earlier on New Scientist; interesting stuff. When the LHC comes online it might finally provide an answer to the matter/anti-matter disparity question.

1798. Fleabytes

Comment #146448 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 5:11 am

David's concept of evidence?


A snippet from last night that might help with this:

"If someone asks me where the evidence is, then I would immediately ask them to explain what they mean by evidence".

1799. Fleabytes

Comment #146435 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 4:50 am

Clodhopper-

while David Robertson is in fairness a reasonably good public speaker, after last night's talk I have little doubt that in a debate Richard Dawkins would Rip. Him. Apart.

1800. Two More Fleas

Comment #146425 by Quetzalcoatl on March 19, 2008 at 4:37 am

Steve-

don't be ridiculous. Lightning is hurled by God from heaven. No transmutation involved.

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