1801. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #180210 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 11:25 am

MaxD,







I have come to expect next to nothing in the way of enlightened social commentary from the science world. It is primarily reactionary, with a blind eye to history.

1802. The Neural Buddhists

Comment #180197 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 11:04 am

I know how I get my highs.




Being lewd and sexually explicit with random women I don't know. That is all the transcendence I need!

1803. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #180194 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 11:02 am

I have fun with fanusi. I get the impression he hates me a little, but can decide if he wants to hate me 100% yet.


I hope to get to 100% by June.

1804. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #180184 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 10:51 am

MaxD,





The racism card gets thrown too much. It goes for all over, examples:


1)"Israeli settlements are illegal"
-"Anti-semite"

2) "Islam is based on barbaric texts"
-"racist"


This is the common form, too bad that people can't be rational and actually listen to what people are saying before starting the chanting of liberal slogans.

1805. 'Spiritual' dentist fined $10,000

Comment #180180 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 10:43 am

Diacanu,







Most dentists don't even come close to raking it in. Most dentists are struggling, some are succeeding, and very few are "raking it in".

1806. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180175 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 10:35 am

MaxD,






I was just curious. It would be a great fit for Fanusi. He is keen on being an American citizen and keen on killing Muslims. I figured this would be two birds with one stone. He talks a good game about punching people who call him a Nazi, so I figure he would be a perfect fit.




The growing trend is really here in the West now. it is a trend wherever there is creeping westernization. Palestinian universities experienced it. So it is prevelant in US universities as well. I had classes with at least 4 girls who did not wear the hijab, but later chose to wear it (chose meaning there was no husband to force them, I am not ruling out a father's pressure). In a Middle Eastern Country which is impotent, and sees an increase in westernization, there may be a push back, part of which is wearing the veil.

1807. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180149 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 9:20 am

Caudimordax,





Agreed. I didn't say we shouldn't. The point is the following (at least what I believe is the point):


Are there particles in the air that damage our environment? Are these produced by people? If so why not reduce them, even if it is only a larger trend.



Tyler,


And what about the evidence for global dimming? I was very convinced by a program on global dimming. It seems that it posits something different than global warming.

1808. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180138 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 9:01 am

Tyler,







You are certain this isn't a period of global warming that is part of a larger cycle of warming, that the planet goes through naturally? That seems to be the contention of some. The melting of the ice caps has been happening since the end of the last ice age.

1809. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180134 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 8:57 am

Shaden,






The link is el broko.


But thankfully I know enough Star Trek to get the reference.

1810. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180127 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 8:46 am

I honestly think we are fucked.


There is too many fucktards not only breathing in the world, but running large countries. We cannot get most of them (here in the US) to understand the facticity of a past event (evolution) well evidenced and researched. How, then, do you propose to convince them of the following:


1) There is a shit storm coming.
2) This could end our world.
3) This is a bad thing.


I think we are totally fucked, even if we do survive there will be irreparable damage to our environment. I honestly hope that global warming is just bull shit, because if it isn't... we are doubly fucked.

1811. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #180124 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 8:42 am

Keith,

Even better, we can do the test from our armchairs without any wild speculation. If we look at how the non-Muslim Arabs behave, who are subject to the same prevations you have gone on about at such length, then if Sam is right, we should expect to see more violence from the Muslim Arabs than, say, Christian Arabs.

I tend to think Sam is right, by coincidence, not by astute observation and study. He has chanced upon several correct opinions.


As for non-Muslim Arabs, we have seen Christian suicide bombers (Lebanese) attack numerous targets. George Habash (a Christian) led the PFLP, which was responsible for plane hijackings. I think in general non-Muslim Arabs are generally less outwardly violent, but you must take into account the fact that these are minorities. In another instance, Jews were largely passive residents in Europe for many years, once they have gained a foothold, unity and funding, they have turned to far more nasty tactics in Palestine. The fact of being a minority weighs heavily on your decision making regarding violence.


On the surface, Palestinians (Muslim, Christian, Secular) unite against the Israelis. Absent the Israel bogey, there is a LOT of hostility between the two religious groups. Christian Palestinians often do not like their Muslim countrymen.

1812. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180117 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 8:31 am

Anna,





What the hell are you talking about, polluting space?



I assume you know that the universe is really big, and mostly empty. What would the harm be in firing waste into the sun? Or onto an uninhabited planet? I don't think anyone would really give a shit. I assume you are just being argumentative in the "not polluting space", it is a vacuum there is nothing to pollute. And you could bury a rocket at high speed into the crust of some planet like Mercury or something. I think Capt. Kirk will forgive us.



Tyler,



I was being serious. Then we can always go back to the "space elevator" theory.

1813. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180107 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 8:19 am

Shaden,





I was actually thinking of Cormac McCarthy's book "The Road". I think this is a good portrayal of what might be in store for our future. People always seem to think they can fix our impact on the earth. Like evolution owes it to us to let us keep living. Bah.


The real issue is there are too many fucking stupid people, like in India for instance, screwing away, breeding like rabbits, consuming resources, polluting the environment, remaining completely ignorant of the world's problems. Hell there are too many of those people here in the US. To fix a lot of these problems you will have to unstupid people. And if you look at how that has worked out on RD.net, you will lose hope. Try convincing a wooter like brain of anything rational.

And plenty of religious people are eager for the end of the world to come.


Also, Anna,


Why don't we just load rockets up with the nuclear waste and shoot it at the sun, or random directions into space? That would get rid of it no?

1814. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #180094 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 8:04 am

Why does everyone assume there is a solution. There are no guarantees. We may be in a position where we will slowly kill our planet and ourselves. We will be reduced to bands of people, the ones lucky enough to still be alive, roaming the cold and barren landscape, savanging for food, and fighting one another for whatever meager resources remain.


There may not be a solution, save a cold and lonely death. Anyone think of that?

1815. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #180081 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 7:34 am

Fanusi,






You are missing Islam's subtle reference to "That which the right hand possesses." Meaning your slave girls, whom you may copulate with and procreate with, and do about anything you want with. Muslims generally say "It doesn't say rape", but that dodges the point that it doesn't say "Do not rape". A passage that reads "Fuck your slave girls anytime you want, they are your possession" is quite easily used to allow for rape. And which country was cited by Human Rights Watch as rape central??>???? Saudi Arabia. These retarded bedouins hire Phillipino maids, and then think they can fuck them anytime they want. These idiots have yet to realize that employing a foreign laborer is a little different than owning a slave. Even then, they are using Islam to justify the rape of women trying, desperately, to escape poverty.

1816. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180064 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:52 am

Tyler,




Hahahahaha.

1817. The Neural Buddhists

Comment #180063 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:51 am

RM,






What shocks me is that you watched how theists would come here and dodge points, clearly put to them. You joined in the condemnation of this irrational behavior. Then I put a question to you, and you do the same thing.


In all seriousness, does the hypocrisy bother you?

How do you explain the star in hand story? You could also throw in some commentary on David Robertson's refusal to ever answer my question regarding pre-ordained damnation, which he holds to be absolute fact?

I assume since you were once a person who was somewhat rational (an assumption) that you will be happy to answer these questions. No doubt you can pray for some additional assistance if you can't find the right words.

1818. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180056 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:38 am

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

1819. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180052 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:31 am

Cooler, yes. But I would hope Fanusi would put his money where his mouth is and hop into the meat grinder of Sadr City. It is a good deal, risk being torn limb from limb by an IED pack with nails and other rusty sharp metal objects for a few years and then cash in on the citizenship after a few years.

1820. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180044 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:19 am

Quetz,






I believe it does. But no doubt Fanusi would prefer to enter the Army or Marines, so he can actually kill the enemy of freedom himself. In the Nazy he could get stuck in sunny San Diego, when he really wants to be on the ground in Baghdad doing house-to-house searches, rooting out al-Qaeda. Dodging IED's is a far better way to prove your dedication. IMHO.

1821. The Neural Buddhists

Comment #180033 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:07 am

Richard Morgan,






You are weak and ignorant. You are a powerpoint presentation against religion all in one.

A sick person who finds Jesus. For about the 3rd time no less.

The Bible claimed that Jesus held stars in his hand, do you want to explain the physics of that? How does he reach into the sky, and pull down a burning sun, possibly millions of miles in circumference, from thousands and thousands of light years away, and hold it in his hand? Do tell.

1822. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180029 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 6:02 am

All,





I am issuing a challenge. Fanusi has said here and in other forums that he would be eager to become an American citizen. He has also denounced Islam and said he supports a war on Islam and Muslims. I can solve all of this in one swoop.


The lovely thing about America, is that now, if you are a non-citizen and choose to serve in the armed forces, after your tour you will be granted citizenship. Fanusi will be able to gain his citizenship, and fight Muslims the way he brazenly claims he is dying to.


So Fanusi,



At your request I will begin inquiring at the local Army recruiting office how we can get you enlisted in the military, to back up your swaggering bravado, and to get you citizenship. I for one would be happy to have another American who is as dedicated to the Constitution and Secularism as you are, and I know the Army would love another warm body. So we can kill 2 birds with one stone. Are you in?




MaxD, Christopher Davis,




Do you military men have anything to add? Any input?

1823. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #180022 by al-rawandi on May 14, 2008 at 5:47 am

Bonzai,






You made my point. I was trying to see if Fanusi can bring himself to even mention atrocities committed by the United States, or Christians, or Jews for that matter. What a useless contribution to only ever criticize one world view, and one ideology. There are a bunch of worldviews, all militating against one another, with deadly results.

Fanusi's obsession resembles the warlike obsession with "Eurasia". When Fanusi comes here, it is the "Two Minutes Hate", Fanusi stands up and hurls dictionaries at the face of "Goldstein" and then leaves, commenting on how wonderful "Ingsoc" is. It is fanatical. I had with held judgment on the matter, giving him every opportunity to at least fake like he could criticize someone other than a Muslim, or more specifically an Arab.


Long live Oceania, Long live the Party.

1824. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179693 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 2:07 pm

Fanusi,





OK that is enough. Show me one recording of Arab broadcast, that you and Israelis claim was broadcast all over Palestine. Show me one place, one broadcast, just one.


Scum in Lebanon. I am not dancing around that. I slept through the lecture on Lebanon, believe it or not. Late night drinking. I will have to go back through some publications before I feel I can comment.


I didn't say no one knew that the Mufti was anti-semitic. What I said was, it is incorrect to assume every Arab who supported him did so because he had allied himself with the Nazis. If you have some proof of this, you could show us now. Or you could continue on this same war path of insinuation and labrinthine guesswork.



I didn't say "of course" Rumsfeld knew. I noted that some people suggest that he did, and that there is plenty of evidence that officers well up the chain of command knew what was going on. This can be found on Wikipedia among other places.


I didn't skate over the Stanford Experiment, I mentioned it and discussed it. The point being that there needs to be controls on these "ordinary" people who you keep insisting simply get out of line from time to time.



As for your final two posts. You have referred to Arabs as "scum" and "rats", you have done this elsewhere with other terms. A number of people here have said you are using anti-religious attitudes to float your specific brand of "racism". I have reserved judgment, but you aren't giving me much to work with here.


Don't forget that US revolutionaries were called terrorists by the British for fighting out of uniform. They revolutionaries had to do this, because outright confrontation would have resulted in a thrashing from the British. So should the Americans have been shot like rats?

1825. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179663 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 1:38 pm

Caudimordax,






Well having discussed this with many Muslim women, I notice they defend the institutions most vigorously. In fact on Egyptian University campuses, women have taken to wearing the veil as a way of asserting their identity. It shouldn't be assumed that Islamism is solely male dominated.

I think you let Islamists come to power, and let them fuck up a country or two. I don't see another answer. People assume there is a good solution if we just look for it hard enough. Killing Muslims en masse seems to create more hostility, while leaving them alone has never been tried. I think the answer may be obvious, but we need to reserve the right to self defense.

So if you allow a Muslim government to rise to power in say.... Iraq. If there was an attack which was organized and supported by Iraq, you would have greater options to retaliate, because if a state attacks you, you are entitled to retaliate against this state in a reasonable fashion. In this case, Fanusi would get his carpet bombing of Muslims, mass deaths, and shooting of "rats".

And I would get to keep my tax money.

1826. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179641 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 1:09 pm

I think many people here already are crazy.






I miss fanusi, where has he gone?

1827. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179635 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Caudimordax,






Yes. I am dying to get back to the topic. But apprently people want to talk about cartoons and riding their tricycles.

1828. The Neural Buddhists

Comment #179612 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm

I read this trash this morning.



It is a sad that the New York Times continues to employ such ignoble commentators, who really find it a stretch to think beyond the simple minded drivel that they "analyze".



Such fools and idiots that help shape the public opinion. I like the term "bewildered herd", and here we see the sheep dog.

1829. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179609 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm

Geez, I said I was joking...

Geez, so was I.

1830. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179603 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm

Anna,






No one called you a smelly hippie. I said this isn't "smelly hippie.net". Don't make things up.

1831. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179601 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:24 pm

MaxD,






Yes, I detect similar hostility. Don't tug on Superman's cape I say.

1832. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179597 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:22 pm

Anna,





Meathead? I was discussing several things... US aid to Israel. Massacres in Iraq. And several other points. If this is your definition of meathead.... well come back to this universe if you would. I might start charging you to have my face (meathead) on your avatar.

1833. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179578 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:11 pm

Excuse me,





I think some of you have mistaken RD.net for "Smelly Hippie.net", please check your browsers.

1834. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol

Comment #179574 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm

rustylix,







You are correct. The price of gas takes into account several things:


1) Supply
2) Demand
3) Projections of future supply
4) projections of future demand
5) Political risk
6) Weather risk


So instability falls under political risk. So this is calculated into the price of the oil futures market. The problem with this market is that the oil producers will always mark to market at this market price. The speculators really help drive the price of oil.


So if a long futures contract on oil goes up based on projections, the oil producers can make the market. For instance if oil is trading at $110 per barrell, and the September contract is trading at a notional value of $120 per barrell, there is no way that the actual value of oil won't reach that value if it remains priced as such.


So in short, yes, instability is directly linked to oil price. For instance the latest spike in Light Sweet Crude prices was due to a terrorist act in Nigeria.

1835. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179565 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 11:58 am

Fanusi,



And now for the balance of the post from you.

and the Grand Mufti enjoyed major support from the overwhelming majority of the Muslim Arabs.

So you are saying the following:

Fact one: The Grand Mufti was in bed with the Nazis
Fact two: Most Arabs supported the Grand Mufti
Conclusion: Therefore Arabs are Nazi supporters.


The falsity is obvious. The Grand Mufti was supported for a number of reasons, one of which was his being the figurehead of the resistance. Arabs tend to support fellow Arabs who defy the imperialists. For instance Saddam Hussein enjoyed spikes in support whenever he stood up to the west or whenever he did something similar. And he received a notable sympathetic wave after he refused to be hung like a coward. But for the rest of the time, the Arabs hated Saddam (by and large).

as the idea that the actions of a handful of nightguards at an obscure prison is equivalent to the barbarity committed day in and out by their opponents.

You usually have much better reading comprehension than this. What I said was, and this was my initial point (also misconstrued by jayalenik), that governments tend to employ shitty people. You can continue to amuse yourself with these Marine Corps posters "The Few the Proud", but the military tends to attract some sick fucks. Just ask some people in the military about those that actually do the sick stuff. They are mostly disturbed kids with a fascination with guns and killing animals. Future psycopaths. This isn't a majority, and I certainly didn' say it was.

As for "a few night guards". These were American soldiers, not rent-a-cops. They did so with the knowledge and approval of superior officers, and the knowledge may have gone as high as Donald Rumsfeld. Your attempt to downplay and whitewash American misdeeds reminds me of Chomsky trying to whitewash Khmer Rouge atrocities.


I was also going to bring up the Stanford Prison Experiment. There has to be oversight, and there was, this oversight at Abu Ghraib approved these tactics, and knew very well what was happening. This kind of indifference to human suffering is the mark of a sick person and a sick organization.

To put it bluntly, it is entirely legitimate to shoot them like rats.

Sometimes you really border on the racist. It is only my hope that you are a good person that keeps from being more critical of these kind of statements.

1836. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179554 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 11:47 am

Fanusi,


A point you need to rectify:

They, instead, chose to follow their leaders who commanded them to leave so that they could join with their fellow Muslim Arabs in slaughtering the Jews. The Arabs lost those wars; tough luck to them. They lost the land with it.

This is a common and pernicious myth. There have long been lies about "Arab broadcasts" circulated by the Israelis. There is not one shred of evidence to suggest that Arab governments broadcast to the Palestinians to leave their homes. What was recorded was Israeli trucks with loud speakers driving around telling Arabs that the Jews would slaughter them and use "nuclear weapons" in order to scare the Arabs away, it partially worked.

In fact the Arab governments had everything to gain by keeping the Palestinians in place, they would serve as a friendly local population, and serve as a 5th column wherever Israel took lands.

So my challenge is to find one credible source suggesting there were "Arab evacuation broadcasts". This my has been exploded by Norman Finkelstein, as well as numerous Israeli scholars.

1837. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179530 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 11:18 am

Uh Oh!

1838. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179528 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 11:17 am

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Fucktard






Too late. This page says it all.

1839. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179523 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 11:13 am

I am undecided. I really am.





I would want to upload a photo of someon. But I don't have a photo of wooter, so I don't know what I could do instead.

1840. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179518 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 11:04 am

I knew what you meant.




But it was so much more assholish for me to post a definition. I feel like an Englishman today. And as I dig through my pocket to find some change, I feel like a Scotsman as well.



I am on my way to make a wiki page for fucktard.

1841. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179507 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:52 am

jayalenik,






That depends on how long your are going to make non sequiter assumptions to attack a pretty solid position. Namely that both the Iraqi and US governments employ some really shitty people.

It is sad that I need to remind people of the criteria for federal employment:


1) Breathing: Yes
2) Able to blink: Yes
3) Willing to take orders: Yes
4) Strong aversion to ambition: Yes
5) Willing to work for no money: Yes
6) Can you start now: Yes



There you have it, the United States Government, employing the best of the worst since 1776.

1842. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179504 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:47 am

To the gym!




Actually I had 6 glasses of whiskey on a 3 hour flight last night. I am not in the mood to strain at all.



Bonzai,



I was going to mention that. And why did the US overthrow Mossadegh? Eisenhower was initially against it, until MI6 told the US he was heading for the Soviet sphere, which was false.

And why did the British say this, because they were sick of the Iranians nationalising things like oil and tobacco and tea.


And what did the progenitors of the Islamic Revolution say with regards to democracy? Khomeini, among others, (including Shariatti) said that they only demanded that the Shah honor the 1909 constitution. This was the demand of the 'Ulema prior to the revolution, the Shah's constant refusal to adhere to a constitution helped fire the flames of revolution. That and slaughtering 20,000 people in one day in Tehran in what is now known as Martyr's Square.

The Shah had gotten so bad that the protestors arrived wearing funeral shrouds in preperation for their coming deaths. They were then gunned down by Iranian (and some say Israeli) troops.

1843. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179496 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:34 am

Ass clown came to me through a friend. A Jew from Los Angeles. But I guess ass clown is actually derived from WWE, an obnoxious fake sport, indeed popular with red necks.

It was used in Office Space and by radio host Todd Schnitt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass_Clown#Similar_compounds_with_ass



But I think it came to me as "No talent ass clown". So there you have it.

1844. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179495 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:31 am

Jayalenik,







I am awful at determining sarcasm on the web. It is one rep at 350 lbs.


Anyhow. The argument that one government should be destroyed because it employs some assholes, should equally apply to the US. Dick Cheney is an asshole, and the people involved with Abu Ghraib are ass holes. Human sadism comes out in different ways. Some people kill their daughters, and some people torture Iraqis to death. Either way it is sadism.

The point is that the Iraqi jack ass fucktard should be tried for murder, and so should the Americans who killed an Iraqi. We are not in the business of handicapping Iraqi lives, one Iraqi death is one Iraqi death.

Hypocrisy doesn't draw much water. It is not a currency we can spend in the war of ideas. If western civilization is superior, we should be able to prove it through our actions. Right now, it is still too ambiguous for the likes of Chomsky to figure it out.

1845. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179488 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:20 am

Diacanu,





I was worried that no one else saw the greater picture. Blind belief in anything is bad.





Eagle,



I need it sometimes. I have eaten my words more than once. Thankfully they taste good.

1846. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179485 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:16 am

Eagle,






Thank you very much. Jayalenik is still bitter about some gun control debate 2-3 months ago. some of these people cannot let it go.

1847. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179483 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:14 am

sickofgod,







The tyrants you support have killed vastly more innocent people than Islamists have. I am afraid I don't understand your criteria, maybe I should say criterion. Is it ok to murder innocents or not? It is a matter of principles. Murdering innocent people is not acceptable. Suharto's purges (1 million deaths) are not acceptable. Massacres in East Timor are not acceptable. Using civilians to see how well Iraq can target its weapons is not acceptable. So when you support vile dictators, you actively recruit for radical groups.


Religion is not the root of all evil, dogmatism is the root of all evil, religion is a form of dogmatism. Unless, of course, you are a fan of Stalinism, in which case your opinion might be different.


As for your false dichotomy (Shah or Khomeini), I will play along. I would once again support the revolution in Iran. Self determination is a human right, and we must let a few Islamists come to power, and then fail miserably then we can watch the ideology crumble. People in Iran are not fans of the regime, by and large, that will be the greatest victory.

Of course if one of these elected governments decides to attack the United States, you then have a state to fight and spend all that tax money on to recycle it to the corporations that helped get you elected.

1848. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179474 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 10:01 am

jayalenik,







Actually there are allegations of homicide at Abu Ghraib, I believe.

The original comment assuming you can read, and have read it was about governments employing unsavory people. I said the US government also employs unsavory people. Thus my point has been completely proven, you simply are either too lazy or stupid to go back and figure this out. I vote a combination of both.

As for the tank and rifle, both are domestically produced in Israel, and both are considered among the finest in the world. Which goes to show that Israel does not need American weapons technology to defend itself, and was part of my larger point that aid to Israel should be reduced, as it is an unecessary drain on the American economy. It had nothing to do with "tuff". Of course tuff is a form of volcanic rock, you were no doubt looking for the word "tough". But no matter, your post remains irrelevant as it doesn't even address the issue.



And finally 350 lbs.


Thanks for playing, ass clown.

1849. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179459 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 9:28 am

sickofgod,




The logic:


"He is a son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch."


So populations can be oppressed, people murdered, democracies overturned, so long as it supports an American way of life and detracts from Islam? I hope you are not an elected official.

1850. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179450 by al-rawandi on May 13, 2008 at 9:03 am

huzonfirst,







Can you explain exactly how Israel is a "near-theocracy"? I am willing to be convinced, but I need to hear exactly how it is a near-theocracy.