151. Bad Faith Awards 2008: Vote now

Comment #279943 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Comment #279938 by PrimeNumbers

Have to save that clip for 2012...hope she's nominated. No, I take that back, it would be funny, but I don't want to take the risk that the morons would elect her.

152. Bad Faith Awards 2008: Vote now

Comment #279935 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 4:31 pm

So many dog-turds on the lawn. I try to avoid them all...now I have to choose one to step on?

[edit] Ok, went for Adnan Oktar, because earning this would piss him off, whereas it would just get Coulter off.

153. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279735 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 10:37 am

Al

I didn't need that image in my head, but thanks for the levity.

Broshiesq

The wife just said that if I don't unplug the bathroom sink I'm in big trouble, so I'll have to talk to you later. I think we can both agree that whoever voted for prop 8, it stinks.

Cheers.

154. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279733 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 10:33 am

I used the U.S. census for african americans in CA then used the word "over" to cover any increase, though this increase is probably not of voting age.

I just read three studies on Mexican-american attitudes towards gays. All agreed it depended on three things: How long the individual has been in the states, whether that person is male (males having more of a negative attitude toward gays), and how often they attend mass. The last being the most significant.

ly_raya

Welcome. I'm glad your family was against prop 8 . I think you said you were in the Bay Area. This may have some affect. I lived in a Mexican-American community in Fresno for a few years and I got a different response toward gays from the friends I met there. Both of our statements are anecdotal of course. But I still stand by my statement that catholics turned out big in favor of this prop. Many hispanics are catholic....

155. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279717 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 10:03 am

Comment #279706 by Broshiesq

Sorry, no it was actually Steve's reply to you that stated that blacks have a tendency to be homophobic. "... with increased voting from a community which has a tendency to be homophobic."

And no, I do not want to revise my statement. There just are not enough african american voters in CA to pass any propositions. And my statement about mexican-american catholics being against gays is well known, it is part of their culture. Very few mexican american gays will come out of the closet because of this. It is the same in the american muslim community.

156. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279708 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 9:36 am

Oh, one more thing about the black turnout causing gay marriage ban in CA. (sorry, that statement irked me).

In Arizona, where there are roughly 150,000 blacks, the ban passed with a larger majority than CA. Again, AZ has many conservative voters, including seniors, they also have a large catholic and mormon community. These are your homophobes.

157. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279693 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 9:15 am

I also do not like the blanket statement that blacks, as a race are generally homophobic. Can I get some statistics on this?

158. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279689 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 9:11 am

Comment #279668 by Broshiesq

"Prop 8 passed because Obama was on the ballot, causing a huge increase in turnout among black voters, who overwhelmingly were in favor of Prop 8."

This is just plain nonsense. California has just over 2 million african americans, not voters but total population. It has over 12 million hispanics, most of whom are catholics. The black population had very little to do with prop 8 passing.

159. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279429 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 3:32 am

Thanks to Obama, GW finally has to come up with an exit strategy. Fortunately, it mainly consists of packing suitcases.

160. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279417 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 3:20 am

Steve is fine :)

Dr. Zara, I'm glad you're fine. hee hee

161. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #279414 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 3:17 am

So, is this thread officially dead now? 10,251 It had a good run.

162. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279410 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 3:08 am

Comment #279295 by BrandySpears

Thank you for posting this case that the ACLU has brought before the CA Supreme Court. I did not think it was possible to appeal a constitutional amendment but I was wrong. The argument is that prop 8 is not an amendment but a revision to the California Constitution. Brilliant move on the ACLU's part, makes me proud that I'm a member. I hope they are successful or at least get a long term stay on prop 8 . I will be following this closely.

Ps. I know you are probably more bummed about this than anyone here, since you were so active in the "No on 8" campaign. Thanks for all your hard work and don't let the bastards get you down.

163. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279403 by mordacious1 on November 6, 2008 at 2:59 am

My wife and I did not get married for many years because we did not need the state to tell us we were partners in life. Eventually though, situations arose where the benefits of being married, eg. taxes, were too tempting and financially necessary so we did it. I had a choice and others do not. That is not right or just, period.

164. Gay Marriage Outlawed in California

Comment #279277 by mordacious1 on November 5, 2008 at 8:16 pm

I think that prop 8 could be deemed unconstitutional by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Unfortunately, there are 5 catholics on the Supreme Court and they are all strong catholics. I think that this is a major problem with our justice system. Scalia is not the type who would set aside his religious beliefs to support human rights. Ain't gonna happen.

165. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #279103 by mordacious1 on November 5, 2008 at 2:37 pm

I like my presidents to be educated at the best schools. I also prefer them to know something about the law, especially the Constitution. Bush had not a clue about the law, Palin thought she would be in charge of the Senate. Good grief. The guy who signs legislation into law should know what he/she is signing.

Perhaps a Phd in History would be a good degree for a president.

166. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #279089 by mordacious1 on November 5, 2008 at 2:24 pm

Al

Glad for the umbrella then.

As to your post of 644, there are many presidents that weren't Ivy Leaguers and/or lawyers. The Bush's of course were Yale grads, but not lawyers. Carter went to the Naval Academy with a degree in physics, Reagan went to Eureka College and studied something, then became an actor. LBJ went to some Texas teacher's school and taught school. Eisenhower West Point, general...etc, etc.

Oh, I think Ford went to Yale and got a law degree and Nixon was a lawyer but went to Duke.

167. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #279068 by mordacious1 on November 5, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Al... the dark cloud raining on everyone's parade.

*grabs umbrella*

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Comment #278849 by mordacious1 on November 5, 2008 at 10:05 am

I just hope Obama has an 8 year term:

John Paul Stevens 88, Ruth Bader Ginsburg 75, Antonin (overweight) Scalia 72, Anthony Kennedy 72, Stephen Breyer 70 .

This is where it counts.

169. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278675 by mordacious1 on November 5, 2008 at 1:53 am

Comment #278663 by AfraidToDie

"I fully understand how and why America’s black community would overwhelmingly vote for Obama, many or most because he is a black man."

I'm not sure this is true. I think if the Republicans would have run Alan Keyes for President, the blacks would not have supported him even though he is black. African americans vote on issues like everyone else. It just so happens that a black man ran with a platform they could support. I'm sure they chose Obama over Clinton because of his race, but mainly because they saw no real difference in their platforms.

170. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278617 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:57 pm

425. Comment #278602 by GordonYKWong

It wouldn't have made a difference anyway. A state constitution cannot change federal law.

171. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278612 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:28 pm

I can't believe how Republicans will vote for convicted felons over any Democrat, eg. Stevens(R) of Alaska.

172. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278609 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:22 pm

Wosret

I know you're Mitchell, I was just teasing you for saying "Girls" instead of "Gilks". Those typos can be dangerous.

173. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278608 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:19 pm

CNN just had "Palin Unplugged" on. Ahhhhhhhh! What a moron.

174. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278606 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:14 pm

"I am "Mitchell Girls"

Really?

175. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278605 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:09 pm

Comment #278602 by GordonYKWong

Yikes, I didn't see that one. It's probably Colorado Springs, home of 1000 evan. churches.

176. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278601 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:02 pm

Darn. A proposition in San Francisco to rename a sewage plant after GW Bush has failed.

177. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278600 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 11:01 pm

Civil unions are much like telling blacks that they may get on the bus, they just can't sit in the front.

178. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278592 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Forgot, it won't post links in edit, so:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/

179. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278588 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 10:39 pm

Gordon

A LOT of money was poured into the Prop 8 campaign from the mormons and the catholics, plus there are alot of hispanic catholics in CA, so there you have it.

[edit] A good place to track it:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/

180. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278578 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 10:21 pm

Carto

No, I share your gloom. I knew Obama would win, so I didn't concentrate on that. My big three races were: Prop 8, Dist. 4 in CA (congress), and Al Franken for Senate. All are going bad for me. Bummed.

[edit] The counties with a large hispanic (catholic) population are overwhelmingly voting for prop 8. That seems to be a big problem here.

181. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278573 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 10:05 pm

Crap, I placed a substantial bet that the Dems would end up with 57 seats in the Senate and it now stands at 56 with 4 seats left. Al Franken is letting me down.

[edit] Looks like I might get Oregon and possibly Alaska.

182. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278566 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 9:53 pm

It will just be nice to have a President that can talk in complete sentences.

Too much Sekt.(hic)

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Comment #278518 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:58 pm

I didn't know that Arkansas had a ballot measure banning gays from adopting children. It's passing btw.

They should have a measure against in-breeding.

184. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278505 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:49 pm

Oh crap, Franken is now tied. Damn.

185. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278496 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:45 pm

MPhil

No, that would be congrats to you...I'm sure gf would agree.

186. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278494 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:42 pm

steveroot

You should be at the Obama speech. Looks like quite a party.

187. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278473 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Carto

Prop 102 in Arizona, banning gay marriage, passed. Prop 8 is passing, so far, but only 4% of results in.

188. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278469 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:24 pm

McLame is giving his concession speech.

[edit] oops repeating

189. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278463 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 8:22 pm

Comment #278454 by MPhil

Erm...congratulations? Glad you're having a good night. You just reminded me that I have a bottle of Sekt in the fridge that I need to pop.

190. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278431 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Al Franken is ahead in MN by 10,000 votes. Go Al.

191. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278416 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 6:36 pm

Ohio and PA, this puppy is over. Joe the Dumber couldn't get these states for McLame. Too bad, so sad.

192. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278382 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Comment #278375 by quantum_flux

You seem to be a very confused person.

193. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278364 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm

Elizabeth Dole got spanked in N. Carolina. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

194. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278357 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 5:07 pm

Comment #278347 by shemp333

CBS withdrew its projection of Obama winning Virginia (for now). The counties reporting in so far are what is known as "the Confederate southern part of the state". The northern part, what Joe McCain (the wacky bro) called the communist north of the state, is yet to report. I think it will still be a win for O.

195. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278328 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Dhamma

I didn't know DP made up 15% of RD.netters. I'm shocked.

196. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278324 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 4:12 pm

The liberal elite media, aka CBS just called Virginia for Obama. So much for a McLame comeback.

197. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278284 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 2:51 pm

shemp333

Yes, I had on my "ATHEIST" sweatshirt today and got some looks from the seniors at the polling place. I would have got those looks from them no matter where we were voting though. It did make it special for me to be able to wear that in a church though.

198. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278283 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 2:48 pm

j. mills

Wilson had a stroke in 1919 that left him in a wheelchair for a few months, he used a cane thereafter. FDR did serve in office while in a wheelchair, though it was kept from the public at large.

199. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278270 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 2:27 pm

Dhamma

Or a synagogue...

"Here's your ballot...oh, and don't forget the little hat."

200. ELECTION DAY IN THE USA. GO VOTE.

Comment #278266 by mordacious1 on November 4, 2008 at 2:22 pm

The downside of campaigns:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/trail-times/2008/Oct/30/obamas-big-carbon-footprint-1/

These guys report that the planes, buses, and motorcades put 136,680 tons of carbon in the air, although another report stated it was 165,000 tons.

By comparison, the average household of two produces 5.5 tons/year.