151. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289440 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm

336. Comment #289435 by mordacious1

"If the cretinists singled out a group who were otherwise not harming anyone and started ostracizing them for no other reason than "it says so in my book", then I, as an atheist, would feel compelled to support that group. "

Yeah. Like those kids in Nigeria being branded as witches.

The accusers:

http://helen-ukpabio.com/

The victims:

http://www.steppingstonesnigeria.org/

152. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289430 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:50 pm

Mordy,

Jan Chan is a special case. His thought patterns are influenced by his autism. Or he is playing on that theme very well.

153. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289426 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:46 pm

304. Comment #289397 by decius

A good point. But misogyny was very pervasive during that time. Pure love was between men. Women for procreation.

154. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289422 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:43 pm

317. Comment #289412 by Steve Zara

That one goes in my stash. Thank you Steve.

155. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289414 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:36 pm

314. Comment #289409 by decius

My personal belief is that it is a neurosis about their sons. It falls in with daughters "not as valuable". Living vicariously through your progeny. Etc...

156. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289405 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:23 pm

308. Comment #289403 by Bernstein

And I wouldn't be surprised if you where either. In a Ted Haggart sort of way.

157. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289401 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:16 pm

305. Comment #289398 by Bernstein

"That's the beauty of it. We're all now also fighting for gay rights and thinking it's always been our idea."

You are assuming I'm not gay.

158. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289394 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 5:01 pm

Steve Zara,

How dare you force Josh and Professor Dawkins to post an article on Proposition 8. You with your hidden agenda.

159. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289380 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Frankus

My favorite Steve Zara quote was about "prodding it and having it kick back at you". Very homosapien.

160. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289364 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 4:01 pm

277. Comment #289343 by Bernstein

"The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8"

If you do not like the article, the ensuing comments and think that they are not appropriate, perhaps send an email to Josh?


By the way what happened to the link with the falling statue? In the comments section was a link to the "Nigerian witch children" documentary. Didn't have time to save that link. Anyone?

161. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289139 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 8:39 am

131. Comment #289128 by Roger Stanyard

Here are my political objectives;

1) Don't mess with the science.

2) Compassion.

162. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289131 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 8:31 am

All this nonsense over who gets to touch your "pee-pee".

And who you are allowed to love.

163. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289112 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 8:01 am

Keith Olberman on proposition 8 :



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27652443#27652443

164. The Religious Support Behind Proposition 8

Comment #289097 by Hellene on November 23, 2008 at 7:50 am

But what if my son turns out to be an omiophile?
Who will carry on the family name... my genes?

*sob*

165. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288702 by Hellene on November 22, 2008 at 8:17 am

Jan Chan

Take a look at this link:

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/sheila_patek_clocks_the_fastest_animals.html

166. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288701 by Hellene on November 22, 2008 at 8:15 am

483. Comment #288699 by Steve Zara

I don't disagree. It was the first one that came up in my feeble brain.

167. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288696 by Hellene on November 22, 2008 at 7:55 am

Jan Chan

1) In support of your position on global warming:

http://www.michaelcrichton.net/speech-ourenvironmentalfuture.html

Be careful quoting him though, he is dead wrong at some points.

2) If you are interested in prosthetics this from a good friend of mine who is missing a leg. Look to the relationship between the ball of the foot and the toes. This is the most difficult part of a foot prosthetic, getting that "rolling spring" as he put it.

3) On species extinction. Consider a species that has been made extinct by man. But locked away in its DNA was the cure for cancer. There is value in preserving bio-diversity.

4) And this is the difficult part. Be aware that your mild autism can be both a blessing and a curse. But I suspect you already know this. Be careful how you express yourself verbally outside your dorm. There are people who will not express their disagreement with you verbally. They will do it physically. No... don't argue, don't explain... be careful.

168. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288103 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 6:47 am

Jan Chan

It's true this can be a rough crowd. Particularly if you take things personal. Anyway I have to go teach a class with those poor students that have a "Professor who never debated an undergrad before".

You are very cute.

169. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288097 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 6:38 am

119. Comment #288091 by AForce1

I don't think that Jan Chan is flexible enough at the moment.

170. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288090 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 6:33 am

112. Comment #288084 by JanChan

"ARGHH... I said, stop insulting me, stop spinning, get educated scientifically"

"I don't want to play truant just because of a stupid website debate. "

This is an opportunity for you to hone your debate skills.

Your welcome.

171. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288087 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 6:26 am

103. Comment #288074 by dochmbi

"The reaction should be: Let's find a way to use the forests responsibly as a renewable natural resource without causing harm."

JAN CHAN take note. This was the type response I was looking for in comment #34. This is a statement in which debate can actually lead to a solution. I have not seen any any really coherent posts by you so far. Your debating skills are at a "D" so far. Let go of the "Spin" as a defense. You have courage. Learn to debate in a way that will change minds if it is important to you.

Also when you reply take a moment and site who you are responding to. It's polite blog etiquette, and minimizes confusion.

172. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288079 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 6:14 am

98. Comment #288068 by JanChan

"Stop spinning."

I'm sorry but every time I see this I think O'Rielly.
Stop with the "spinning". It's a very worn out catch phrase, not a very good debate tactic.

Please?

173. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288066 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 6:03 am

90. Comment #288060 by JanChan

"If you want evidence stop posting ridiculous personal insults at me..."

When have I insulted you?

174. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288061 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:59 am

88. Comment #288058 by al-rawandi

Are the Hippies still in the trees? Can you get a permit?

175. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288049 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:51 am

67. Comment #288037 by JanChan

"I said not act to protect the environment at the expense of ourselves."

OK, good start.

So I'm asking, not spinning, lets say building a highway. There is lets say a "frumple" in the way. Highway commission decides the road is more important than the frumple. Road gets built. Frumple goes extinct. 150 years later the road is no longer used for xyz reasons. So I ask was it worth it? Extinction of a species for short term economic gratification?

176. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288036 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:42 am

Jan Chan

What regulations should be in place to protect the extinction of species?

177. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288028 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:35 am

Jan Chan


A coherent reply to post #34 perhaps?

178. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288018 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:28 am

Jan Chan,

A coherent reply to post #34 perhaps?

179. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288012 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:21 am

38. Comment #288008 by JanChan

"And you can learn that from any GOOD Biology/Geography class."


Your kidding us right? I'll pass it on to all the highly uneducated illiterate people on this website.

180. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288010 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:18 am

38. Comment #288008 by JanChan

Please see comment #34. I have neither called you a "name" or gone off the map.

181. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288009 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:15 am

35. Comment #288005 by JanChan

"I'm asking you to take a class on the consequences of the ozone layer you FUCKTARD."

182. Bush set to relax endangered species rules

Comment #288004 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 5:08 am

Jan Chan,

While it is true that the EPA has been corrupted to a degree, what would one replace it with? Nothing? You don't think that extinction of any species diminishes our well being? President Bush wants to give control to whichever agency is going to alter the environment for development. You don't really expect that they will act in anything other than self interest?

And by the by Penn and Teller really went of the map on that Youtube video. A total frame job. They took the extremes and presented them as average. Very disappointing.

183. The battle rages on in Texas

Comment #287987 by Hellene on November 21, 2008 at 4:43 am

Interview with Texas State board of Education,
Don "The Dentist" McLeroy

http://www.vimeo.com/1738445

184. I'm Not One Of Those 'Love Thy Neighbor' Christians

Comment #287846 by Hellene on November 20, 2008 at 6:42 pm

I must say.
I really, really love this universe.
I can't wait to see what happens next.


EDIT: ty90 What all the others have said PLUS: pay attention! There is some really cool shit "out there" and everywhere else for that matter, go ty90 GO!

185. God enough

Comment #287440 by Hellene on November 20, 2008 at 7:28 am

I guess calling something "sacred" means it is in a class of its own. Separate from the rest. "Other", better than, etc...

Just a thought.

186. God enough

Comment #287438 by Hellene on November 20, 2008 at 7:24 am

360. Comment #287426 by aquilacane


Singing;

"Everything is natural, in its own way...."

Technically speaking everything is natural. We are part of the uni, right?

187. God enough

Comment #287148 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:56 pm

Titania

Thanks for the Guinness. I'm off to bed. Thanks for listening guys.

188. God enough

Comment #287138 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Naw,

1) Old Girlfiend, Haven't spoken in ages, turns out to be a fundie/con.

2) The school I teach at (need I say more).

3) Some jackass tried to steal my Camaro. Security shut down all systems. My cost? $500.


4) Someone has parked a Semi-Truck by the pond. We just had an otter move in the other day. The Semi has to go...

EDIT Thanks Titania. Super busy. Teaching full load, taking 16 credits for a "new" degree, doing SFX for an Indie film. Helping a guy with the audio for another. And teaching at the Rec center twice a week. need more time.....

189. God enough

Comment #287131 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Brian English

Thanks. I feel better now.

190. God enough

Comment #287127 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Titania

Yeah, one nut rule the world.

191. God enough

Comment #287125 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:34 pm

181. Comment #287123 by Titania

"I guess it was such a strange thing that it stuck with me. "

As it was stuck with him apparently.

192. God enough

Comment #287124 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Next time Hitler is trotted out as an atheist, i'd love to see Professor Dawkins rebut by saying " Actually Hitler had an undescended testicle, thats what caused him to go bonkers on the world".

193. God enough

Comment #287120 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:27 pm

176. Comment #287117 by Titania

Thanks for looking that up for us...
Hitlers' testicle I mean.

194. God enough

Comment #287108 by Hellene on November 19, 2008 at 7:01 pm

I sorry...

I just have to...

In Olive Oyls' voice

"You, you supernaturalist you!"

195. Puncturing the Acupuncture Myth

Comment #286440 by Hellene on November 18, 2008 at 3:04 pm

My personal favorite alternative treatment:


CLICK HERE

196. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #285421 by Hellene on November 17, 2008 at 6:47 am

Just a thought...

DP is proof that atheism does not lead to Communism. Proof that atheists can have good traditional "American" values, ethics and morals.

OK I'll have to scarff down some Zantac (TM) after that one.

197. Uncertain times for US Religious Right

Comment #285170 by Hellene on November 16, 2008 at 7:19 pm

22. Comment #285101 by Cartomancer

It's a wedge issue that is going to increasingly be aimed at the "Black and Hispanic" voter.

Carto this is for you;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27652443#27652443

198. Interview with John Lennox

Comment #284751 by Hellene on November 15, 2008 at 6:20 pm

There was one original "Unmade" god his name was Kronos. He was killed his son Dias (Zeus). The Jewish guy is an impostor.

199. Richard Dawkins: An Exclusive Profile

Comment #284213 by Hellene on November 14, 2008 at 4:48 pm

OK.

The "flash" transition is very distracting. The color "correction" is interesting, but a bit distracting also. The pacing of the cuts should be timed to the phrasing of Professor Dawkins voice.

200. Atheism/Agnosticism Plus Compassion Equals Humanism

Comment #284206 by Hellene on November 14, 2008 at 4:24 pm

12. Comment #284145 by Brian English

"Bloody Greeks."

Hey! That stings! Where's your compassion?

And just a thought...

The words of a Martial Arts master:

"Courtesy is good defense."