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Comment #219694 by phasmagigas on July 27, 2008 at 11:30 am
You shouldn't do this you know. Only theists post false dichotomies.
You should add at least one other possibility. How about - a fervent convert to a psychotic religion.
152. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya
Comment #219690 by phasmagigas on July 27, 2008 at 11:24 am
i suppose its inevitable that websites such as this will attract the most fundamentalist and mentally unstable people.
its actually quite warming that there havent actually been that many, joe is probably the most toxic so far (well, as far as i can remmber) and of course the uber irony is that his mentality is precisely what sites like this are out to expose, so joe is actually doing a fine job of making a fool of himself, exposing what religion can do to a human child and perhaps embarrasing others of his faith.
153. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya
Comment #219685 by phasmagigas on July 27, 2008 at 11:18 am
As a Muslim i know that the style i have used is not appropriate for propagating my Religion if i were dialoguing with sincere people who are out for the truth.
But you lot are certainly not sincere or objective and actually are bitter enemies of Islam too and hence the reason for the style i use on sites like these which are designed to provide misinformation and lies on Islam and Religion in general.
SO BE READY SOON FOR MORE LESSONS YOU WORMS
154. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya
Comment #219668 by phasmagigas on July 27, 2008 at 11:07 am
joe.
nobodys listening, nobodys reading.
people here tend not to have the predisposition to accept medieval nonsense as worthwhile. If you are trying to convert people it would be more fruitful for you to troll a christian website or a jewish website or a scientologist website as there are people there who are predisposed to accept things as true without evidence, all you need do is show them your cut and pastings and you will get a few converts perhaps. actually you could find an individual with a similar disposition to your own and have a chat with him:
godhatesfags.com
fred phelps will agree with you on somethings but not on others, so its a good start for you, he will likely talk with you personally if you can impress him enough, you'll find him a particulary interesting character, in many ways hes very much like you so you should gfind that quite illuminating.
remember, nobody is listening to you here. i do hope the moderators stop you from posting, your posts are utterly worthless, they are not worth the bits they are written in.
155. A Holocaust Denier Hits Manhattan (And Hearts Hitchens)
Comment #219566 by phasmagigas on July 27, 2008 at 6:44 am
holocaust deniers i suppose are rtaher teh same as creationsist, they want something to be true or not true and twist evidence to fit.
to make denial a crime is absurd, i cannot understand that, no, not one bit. that law is utterly wrong. ifyou deny the holocaust thats your choice, it simply means that you shouldnt expect people to take you too seriously because of it.
Comment #218951 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 9:32 pm
if these weaknesses became part of the curriculum i would hope that science teachers would actually boycott those sections at the very least. if i were a teacher in that case i would have to do that, i couldnt knowingly present false information.
Comment #218950 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Information contained in the genetic code is just too mind-blowing to have come from anywhere but an intelligent creator.
158. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218948 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Do you think it is silly to try to prohibit rape, murder, slavery,
159. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218946 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Consider that for millions of years, our ancestors hardly ever went faster than they can run. Which isn't very fast. The human brain clearly did not evolve to handle much speed.
Comment #218941 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 9:02 pm
heck, peole are going to be homeschooling their kids for the opposite reason they usually do so now.
Comment #218938 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:58 pm
And yet it appears that, all evidence to the contrary, evolution may still soon be taught in Texas as a weak theory. Since the SBOE has a near majority of anti-evolution members, the small problem of evolution actually being demonstrable scientific knowledge is only a political challenge to those who want schoolchildren taught otherwise.
Comment #218936 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:55 pm
First weakness: the fossil record. "There are gaps," said McLeroy, that do not include enough transitional forms of life to support evolution. Second, McLeroy says there has simply not been enough time on Earth for the minute changes required by evolution to have taken place. Thirdly, McLeroy says the incredible complexity of cells proves divine design. Information contained in the genetic code is just too mind-blowing to have come from anywhere but an intelligent creator. "Where did this information come from?" McLeroy mused. McLeroy would like to see these assertions and more taught in Texas biology classrooms.
163. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218929 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:32 pm
i suppose for many a working person across time the only release (even if only temporary)from the drudgery of life was/is to get drunk, i believe theres a positive correlation between doing the least stimulating jobs and drinking. think how harsh life mush be/have been in the past and in places now, only the anticipation of drowning in ale must have kept many a man standing through the week. my point, alcohol has perhaps fueled the industrial revolution just as much as coal.
164. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218926 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:26 pm
roland
Prohibition can only work in a theocratic dictatorship like Saudi Arabia, I guess only very few addicts smuggle some alcohol and risking harsh penalties.
or the introduction of Sharia law in the UK as proposed from the Archbishop of Canterbury : 200 lashes for every drunken guy would be quite funny (for non Brit's) .
165. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218925 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:20 pm
The analogy with alcohol is so obvious it could hardly be more perfect.
166. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218919 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Pulling your leg I've heard of. Mickey and piss, no. But, it's good to know just in case I end up down under sometime.
167. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218917 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Is "takin the piss" a southern hemisphere thing? I haven't heard the phrase before in the U.S., but I'm also well past the age where I stay on top of things like this.
168. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218911 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:57 pm
roland.
At least in Germany the drink driving related accidents are more than 30% of accidents, whereas less than 5% of all travel is drink driving.
Means drunken drivers have a much higher chance of ending up in heavy accidents, so this is quite an argument for prohibition and punishment.
169. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218907 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:53 pm
I recommend Steven Pinker's "A Brief History of Violence" lecture on YouTube and TED for some historical perspective. It seems hard to believe, but we actually live in a world that is far less violent than the world of our ancestors.
170. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218902 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:40 pm
He. Yea Poe's law applies here. Rafkin you must be a recent conversion to Atheism (I know we're not converted), because you took the hook line and sinker. I can't help myself. I concede.
171. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218900 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:38 pm
teratornis
What is optional about getting mowed down by a drunk driver?
172. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218896 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:30 pm
That raises an interesting question. If this something is searching for thewhitepearl, why would she have to do anything to make herself easier for it to find? Even a human could find thewhitepearl. Presumably a supernatural entity could find her more easily.
173. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218890 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Also just look at the word: "EVIDENCE" Had to come from God.
174. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218888 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:19 pm
scot, ive only read the last 2 of ca's posts and im really not sure, hmmm, its a tricky one is this. im thinking its a piss take.
175. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218883 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Look at the trees, theres your evidence. Also flowers, new babies. People who get hit by cars and then get up. Lottery winners, Jesus coming back to show himself on toast, (or in my case in a bowl of alphabet soup: "Yo Jack, Jesus is real man!" My mother made me soup with punctuation.)
Umm what else....air wind fire water, everything. Except bad stuff, thats the devil. (we hate that guy)
176. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #218880 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:15 pm
CA
I think I just trumped the entire scientific community. That is how sharp the Christian mind can be. Don't forget Newton, Bohr, and Gallelio and Capericus were all Christian.
177. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #218341 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 9:22 am
txpiper.
heres a question and im going to push this until you give some kind of testable answer.
explain in non evolutionary terms why we share more of our DNA with chimps than with any other species, a bit less with lemurs, a bit less with dogs, a bit less with snakes, a bit less with goldfish, a bit less with sharks, a bit less with tunicates, a bit less with star fish, a bit less with dragonflies and even less with pine trees, why is this??
178. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #218296 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:08 am
And once again, nice try. But the problem is not what I dislike, or my lack of comprehension. The problem is that your theory, when it comes right down to it, is no more scientific or sophisticated than spontaneous generation. "Things just evolve".
179. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #218294 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 7:04 am
No mention of mutations, DNA or anything like that. Just your own "evolution did it" magic
180. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #218284 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 6:45 am
Absolutely not. This is beyond the scope of adaptations. Changes in teeth and fur is within that scope. Teeth accidentally changing into baleen over time is not.
181. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #218279 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 6:34 am
What it boils down to is acceptance of evolution because of atheism, not the other way around.
182. Lying for Jesus?
Comment #218264 by phasmagigas on July 25, 2008 at 6:20 am
steve zara
Also, considering how successful science is, and how much it has revealed that has been beyond anything we could have possibly imagined, it seems terribly silly to pick up an inconsistent old book, and say "this is better than science".
183. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217762 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Seriously though, if arguing for the sake of arguing keeps you out of heaven...then I'm sure that it will be spacious for all five people that get in.
184. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217752 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 3:24 pm
robert, if you do some here to merely spoil the party as such i dont see how that tallies with your (i suppose)belief that one day you will be actually judged and enter or not a place called heaven.
in spirit you are here to argue for the sake of it, thats not a good thing surely?
what might your god think of that?
185. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217734 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 3:09 pm
More of the latter, although I am glad when atheists recognize the anemic arguments of some of their fellows.
186. Red hot enlightenment led me to believe in one fewer god
Comment #217731 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 3:04 pm
For an even better read, check out Bill Muehlenberg's response to this article:
http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/07/23/889/
187. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217713 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:51 pm
AAAAARGGGH! Bloody loud things!
I tried the Attenborugh thing of attracting them by clicking my fingers. Must have clisked wrongly - they moved away. And yes, lots of mantises. I encourage them into the house to keep the other bugs at bay :-) Haven't noticed wasps - except for the Asian one that builds a small nest.
188. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217706 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:45 pm
so robert, why do you actually want to argue, what do you wish to achieve, your position is final with you i suppose so your motive is to change minds or just invade the party as such
189. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217702 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I'm in Auckland - north North Island. I believe it is sub tropical here, though the way I am shivering sometimes suggests otherwise. Other proper Kiwis may be able to correct me. Wellington is about 8 hours drive south, it is on the southern tip of North Island. I lived there a while, over the summer, so have no idea what winters are like.
WRT wetas, maybe they are bigger as you go south because of the cold? Just trying to remember body area and heat loss...
I have a back garden which is bush - native trees and ponga (I have been told the tree ferns I have are called). When it stops raining long enough for the ground to dry, I shall go exploring there to see what I can find. As it is, it seems to be a very good breeding ground for mosquitoes...
190. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217691 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:34 pm
so robert, why do you actually want to argue, what do you wish to achieve, your position is final with you i suppose so your motive is to change minds or just invade the party as such
191. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217687 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:32 pm
If you mean that huge bug that generally elicits a loud screa from the wife, yes. Well, think so - I'm not the best etymologist as yet :-)
http://www.janeresture.com/polynesia_myths/newzealand.htm
With music!
192. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217677 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:22 pm
goldy, you get wetas locally? people seem to forget theres a good contender for the one true god down that way, the 'wetapunga' (the giant weta), doesnt that mean god of ugly things?
193. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217673 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Arguments are productive, you are here for a mud-fight.
194. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217662 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:10 pm
"why are you on these boards?"
To argue.
195. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217660 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:06 pm
robert.
let me ask you.
why are you on these boards?
Im here as it allows me to discuss things with like minded people (whatever that actually means), whoops, like minded baby devils.
196. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217656 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 2:04 pm
It depends on the metric, of course, but in any event the "popularity" of a book does not imply quality. The Da Vinci Code is also quite "popular."
197. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217563 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I promised not to mention the Swedish furniture pushers again. It is a token of respect for my ancestors.
198. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217554 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 12:32 pm
generally my non ability at maths is kind of frustrating, its like knowing there is another way of understanding the way numbers innteract and using them to describe real things, even having a mental construct of teh whole thing in ones head, but i simply dont have that. i do rememeber once seeing what i think was a quadratic equation (does it start a squared plus b squared ?)but drawn out as a square with areas partitioned off, and then it made sense, i imagine mathemeticians saw those images when they were even kids, without the prompts.
edit, erm, i see the equation started out as something else, i'll stick to watching grasshoppers!
199. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217541 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 12:23 pm
mitchell gilks
At is why the more you ad hoc a hypothesis, the more it loses credibility.
200. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup
Comment #217540 by phasmagigas on July 24, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Robert, and I would also thank you to stop quoting formal logical forumlas. When you do so you are clearly not interested in being understood, but in obfucating, and shutting people up.
If your interest is in being as unintelligible as possible, then there is no reason to respond to you.