2201. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #202999 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 8:20 am

Vaal,






I have to say this:


Winehouse, Boy George, David Irving, ABoC (any of them), etc...

2202. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #202993 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 8:03 am

Robert O'Brien,






The spread of Christianity is irrlevant. If you are trying to forward it as evidence for something, you should know better as it is a logical fallacy.

Like I said, take a look at Euro-policies and take a look at Chinese policies, and then American policies, you can guess who is building a more sustainable world order.

If you cannot see the coming crisis for America, then you are willfully blind.

Oh and let's not forget the "happiness" factor, Denmark is the happiest country in the world. And Denmark has the 3rd highest proportion of Atheists in the world. How about them apples?

2203. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #202984 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 7:48 am

Robert O'Brien.

America is currently in poor economic shape, no doubt, but we remain a superpower, unlike England. The best the English can muster these days is "me-too!"

As for China, are you aware that Christianity is growing rapidly there? :)

We remain a superpower by deficit spending. We are selling government debt to foreign powers like China, which essentially allows them the ability to control the potency of our currency. We have used oil as a gold standard for our dollar, but soon the Gulf Countries will unpeg their currency from the dollar. After Kuwait did, their currency tripled in value.

England does not need to be a super power, America foolishly shoulders all adventures in imperialism. And Europe is going to be the greatest superpower. They are including states well into the Russian sphere now, and getting oil and gas pipelines that will not be under the control of Russian client states. The turn around in the Balkans has been a model for the benefits of inclusion in the EU.

Christianity in China is spreading? Okay, this proves what exactly? Nothing considering China is mostly a country of uneducated farmers and plow workers. This is a country with forced sterilization. The uneducated are always quick to accept stupid ideas.

2204. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #202969 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 7:29 am

Robert O'Brien,

I don't want you to think I'm completely down on the English, friend. It's just that it seems to me the old blood is all but spent in Britain, leaving only the Anglo-Saxon dross. And your country's slide into atheism is parallel to your slide into irrelevancy.

As a fellow American let me comment.

Your assessment is so wildly incorrect as to demand response. If you look at a comparison between the economic and political approaches between the US and Europe there is a glaring contrast. The European Union is spreading, and it is successful. It is incorporating new, former Soviet, states and providing them with economic incentives to modernize.

What is the US doing? Nothing. We could well be incorporating Latin states into a similar type of union, but instead we are letting the Chinese steal our lunch all over South America. And this may well proceed a slip into irrelevancy.

In fact the US will certainly slip into irrelevancy if the cretinists take a bigger role. As it stands now, about 25% of Americans 18-24 cannot find the Pacific Ocean on a map. Most all of them cannot find New Jersey on a map. So this ignorance does not preceed a surge in the world economy, but rather a decline.

And don't look now, but the dollar is losing strength against both the Euro and the British pound.

So how exactly is England "slipping into irrelevancy"?

2205. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #202941 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 7:01 am

Phillip,






Hey Jesus loves me! But I make him wear a condom.

2206. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202939 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 6:59 am

Tyler,




I was being a dumbass, sorry. I didn't read the part where he was insisting on the students being taught Urdu. I can understand Arabic, but Urdu is not the "language of Islam", it is a language of a race of people who mostly practice Islam. Can't say I like that.

2207. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202912 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 6:22 am

elephant,





I agree. It would be functionally racist and would enforce the very cultural divides that Muslims whine ENDLESSLY about. They claim exclusion is a partial cause of terrorism, yet they "demand" (oh yes he said it) exclusion.


Curious.

2208. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202910 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 6:16 am

iftikhar,

Its aim is to make
British public, institutions and media aware of the needs and demands of the
Muslim community in the field of education and possible solutions.

Which demands?

Muslim scholars see the pursuit of knowledge as a duty, with the
Quran containing several verses to the rewards of learning.

Surat al-'Aalq, what a tired act you Muslims perform. And the other verses, would those be before or after the Qur'an says the earth is flat.... you know, where Dhu al-Qarnayn travels to the ends of the earth (I didn't know it had an end, but Allahu A'alam) and sees the sun set into a murky well? Or is it nearer the verse that says sperm comes from the spine?

I hope you are teaching your children these important lessons from the Qur'an, along with the Hadith that says Satan will reside in the upper part of your nose all night.

Majority of them are
underachievers because they are at a wrong place at a wrong time

Maybe it is because they hear In sha Allah 600 times per day and have become fatalists like their parents? Did it ever occur to you that maybe the Muslims community should shoulder some of the blame? Nah, fuck it, blame Israel.

There is no place for a
non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

Just like there can be no polytheists or atheists or animists in a state run by Shari'a. They are put to death. I will give you Muslims one thing, and I admire it, you are consistent.

2209. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202901 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 6:03 am

Tyler,



Comment #89. I am sure you are being sarcastic with the "racist" comment, as you well know, Islam is not a race. So excluding non-Muslims wouldn't be racist.


But I think you were joking.

2210. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202898 by al-rawandi on July 2, 2008 at 5:58 am

epeeist, decius,






You think Marx was right on about Victorian times? You mean like the forced transfer of populations out of urban areas? Let's see.... what groups have used forced population transfer? And how did that work out?

Personally I am not particularly fond of systematisers and I definitely don't like big power blocs like governments, corporates, unions and the like especially when there is collusion between them.

So then you are a libertarian.... someone who thinks people should be protected from centralization of power?

I agree that there is no perfect end to human progress (a social system). But you must at least admit that instantiations of socialism have been far more disasterous for human kind.

2211. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202504 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 2:39 pm

Goldy,





I was thinking about getting that NZ citizenship, plus it will be easier to import the kangaroos. And more people would be pleased with "beer fountains".


What could I do to get my citizenship in NZ, I am serious? Military service? I have the background for intel, I can shoot a gun pretty damn well. My mom is a citizen, but she had to take it by descent, because she was born in the US and moved there a little later.

2212. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202498 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 2:35 pm

auraboy,

I like the idea of progress as a genuine mixture between competition and co-operation...of course this relies on equality for the start point, equality between the access to resources and funding etc otherwise you end up biasing the result with those having better access to those handing out the funding...

Comment of the day. It seems to me that you want to give everyone the best opportunity to succeed that is possible. Combine this with the most liberty possible to pursue their dreams.

The thing is, when I meet someone I treat them the same as I would treat anyone else, once they demonstrate themselves I can make some value judgments. I don't see why social policy should be different.

2213. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202487 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 2:28 pm

clodhopper,






That's right you don't want him running things, because you want me running things.


My platform, do away with drinking fountains and install "beer fountains". I will also make kangaroo ownership mandatory.

2214. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202484 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 2:27 pm

decius,





Good so your input would be valuable.


Where did people have the best quality of life in general terms:


1) A country with state ownership
2) A country with private ownership

????


Do you prefer collectivism, competition, or a combination of collectivism and competition?


If these questions are not fair just say "Shut up asshole".

2215. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202475 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 2:21 pm

I like this Henri guy, he talks sense!




Anyhow...



Rachel Holmes,


It seems to me that what drives progress is a healthy balance between cooperation and competition. And sometimes a mix of both... For instance a corporation could put three development teams on the same project and offer a bonus to whomever best solves the problem... or you can do it the socialist way... have the state own the corporation, it will be run by the President for Life's incompetent porn addicted nephew, and the whoever doesn't make the problem worse will be considered the victor and be given the very same ration of bread.

I am being slightly sarcastic, but the point is there can be cooperation and competition for excellence. There often can only be one winner.

2216. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202465 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 2:12 pm

decius, comment # 50,





Correct, but the Russians were COMPETING with the US for SUPREMACY. And the Chinese are competing as well, plus they are rapidly privatizing their economy and have been for some time. And you must remember also that the USSR didn't treat people equally they had to hand out special benefits to get people to work at certain goals. If they had treated people equally (meaning certain scientists and politicos not getting special perks) there would have been no Sputnik.

2217. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202423 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 1:23 pm

Henri,





No sarcasm. I detest socialism as something that does nothing but hinder human progress. I doubt a socialist country will cure AIDS. Or make the next revolution in space travel.

Equality (in the sense we are using it) is a terrible thing. People need to hop off that band wagon.

2218. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202411 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Henri,




That was the result. Screw their intentions. Only idiots persist and refuse to learn from failure. Any how, there won't be equality, if everyone where equal, how would we excel as a species?

2219. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202405 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Henri,





You are right, all people are not equal. If that were true, Asian engineers could play in the NBA just the same as anyone else.

And socialism wasn't about people being equal, it was about forcing them to all be equally poor.

2220. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202382 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 12:13 pm

BEE KEEPER

2221. It can be right to discriminate against the religious

Comment #202379 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 12:10 pm

Gregg Townsend,





That is discrimination. The appropriate thing to do to appease these people is to change your entire business model and go into debt. This way they won't get their burqas caught in the machinery.

The only job a Muslim woman would be fit for is bee keeper.

2222. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202299 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 8:50 am

irate,




:-) or should I say |>:-{o



Quetz,


Like I said, it might have more to do with the fact that the schools are private and free from the monument to bureaucracy that is state education.

Each school that is private only has to worry about its student body, usually less than 1,000 students. However the state system has a hierarchy of bureaucrats who mummify the system with red tape. The public system is responsible for millions. I hope I don't excite the Marxist collectivists who lurk here, but independent actors tend to be more efficient. It has nothing to do with religion.

2223. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202293 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 8:35 am

irate,







When he says "faith school" he only means the nice fuzzy ones with good performance. Any instantiation of negativity is, of course, outside the scope of our current discussion. Come on, this isn't your first rodeo.

2224. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202290 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 8:32 am

irate,





He means except all of those. Figure it out already.

2225. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202271 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 7:20 am

elephant,







My point was the school was great, aside from all the Catholic stuff that made it worse. The point is "private" schools are often better simply because they don't have a massive bureacracy behind them. The faith element may be incidental to performance. And the person who made the school great was fired for "faith" reasons and this destroyed the school.


That was the point.

2226. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202266 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 7:10 am

elephant,




I went to a Catholic high school for 2 years because it was strong academically and had a strong soccer team. I had to take an "ethics" class (in which I was a thorn in the teacher's side), but other than that it was pretty straight forward..... oh yeah there was lots of drinking, drug use, and sex as well. The priest who ran the place so well turned out to be gay, the diocese ran him out of the school and the clergy and the school went to shit. So that was my Catholic school eexperience.

2227. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202257 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 6:39 am

fides_et_ratio,







Priests.... butt fucking...... small children.

2228. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #202242 by al-rawandi on July 1, 2008 at 5:47 am

Trashcanistan....




Christopher Davis,




I see you have discovered Pashtuns and all their sloth. The fatalism of Islam really helps to enable indolence of the first degree.

The Afghans always brag "our country has never remained occupied, we have expelled all invaders". This is true, largely because the invaders see there isn't one good reason to stick around, so they said "fuck 'em" and left.

2229. Evangelical grunts

Comment #202004 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 3:18 pm

mordacious1,

the best shots were southern boys who had less education, but could shoot a squirrel at a hundred yards...

I can give you that at 200 yards, and I am from California... and make that a rabbit.

2230. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201996 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 2:52 pm

Fanusi,



I hope the fanatacism can be broken the way Japanese fanatacism was. However I think one would be deluded to think that this would be similar. The Japanese could see their god defeated and surrender. The Muslims attribute victory to god and his favor, and they attribute defeat to god, as punishment for lack of piety... thus redoubling their efforts. So I think, when sloth-like fatalism is involved there is little hope in a "demostrable victory" doing much good, because it won't be perceived as such.

But I think the hope lies more in the slow modernization of certain societies (Lebanon, Tunisia, and hopefully several others). Notice that (as an aside) Tunisia is run by an autocrat who has simply willed his people into the 20th century, and this has been good for them. I hope that these countries become more of a model, but this will take repeated ass kickings of the other states with repeated success of the more secular states.




Auraboy,



Sorry for the detail. The Afghans have a pretty diverse population, and many are royalists among other things and not very fond of the Taliban.

2231. Stephen Hawking's explosive new theory

Comment #201955 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Fanusi,





Let's talk shariah and hijack the thread....


*ducks*

2232. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201951 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Auraboy,





Pakistan itself seeks to keep Afghanistan as a country defined by religion, because if it becomes one defined by ethnicity that will be Pashtun. And Pakistan is terrified that Pashtun nationalism will spread to Pakistan. The Pakistanis are consistently working against the Americans in Afghanistan. They are too scared to fight the radicals in the NWFP and other areas (Swat valley seems to be a hot spot). It also has problems with Baluchistan, so it may not behoove the Pakistanis to take it seriously. That is why the CIA and DoD are preparing action plans for US incursions into Pakistani territory.


As for the Muslims in Xianjiang, China is concerned with the influx of Uzbek radicals from the IMU, a notably salafist organization. The Chinese have increased trade with Uzbekistan and the main road which runs through Bishkek (Kyrgyzstan) and Tashkent, is also a means to traffic ideologies and people. The Hui Muslims have remained relatively passive in China, but China has no delusions that this will remain the same for the future.


As for tribal leaders in Afghanistan, people like Isma'il Khan in Herat, are simply business people, first and foremost. That get money from taxing trade, and trafficking in everything from cars to drugs. Religious fanatacism is bad for business, and this is why Khan had built a large private fighting force loyal to himself.


All of this discord, no wonder some called the whole lot of these countries "trashcanistan".

2233. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201947 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Fanusi,





I don't disagree with any of that. But the problem is you are left with little choice other than mass genocide, and I don't use that term with any negative connotation, but be aware that is what you are advocating. I also won't say you don't have a case, you do. The question is, can liberal and humanist ideals ever penetrate Muslim societies. In the past this has happened on a limited scale, but these people are quickly rooted out by Muslims and killed or sent packing. Simply look at Salman Rushdie for evidence of an early attempt at this.


Another Chomsky apologist has surfaced on the "Anti-Evolution Film" thread. Yikes.

2234. Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust

Comment #201941 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 12:58 pm

Shigawire,



We have already wasted enough time on this thread. The last guy to try what you tried simply deleted all of his posts and ran off.


Read the 200 lies of Noam Chomsky. Nuff' said.

http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomskyhoax.html


I will make some short comments on your post, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you haven't read through the whole thread or noticed the numerous missing posts I was responding to.

Oh great. "Potential denial"? Care to be a little more vague? This is an old little tidbit of propaganda. Chomsky does not try to belittle Pol Pot's actions, what he does is put them in context with the genocidal (secret) U.S. bombing of Cambodia - a bombing campaign which propelled the Khmer Rouge into power due to the horrible conditions on the ground. Further, he compounds Khmer Rouge atrocities together with the foreseeable consequences of the U.S. bombings

Wrong. Chomsky said that the Khmer Rouge genocide was comprable to East Timor. Less than 100,000 people were killed in East Timor, an action merely not stopped (not instigated per se) by the US. While the Khmer Rouge killed over 1 million people. You would have to be mentally retarded to make that comparison in "scale" (I quote because chomsky said they WERE comparable in scale).

And where did the US act in a just fashion, well you yourself pointed out WWII and your hero's approval of the war.

Admitted strong Communist leanings as a young man? Source? And, what kind of Socialism?

His involvement in the Kibbutzim is strong evidence of his Communist leanings. You can, of course, read his biography where these things are detailed. And to the latter portion, some kind of anarcho-socialism, however ill-defined. But you should read up on Kibbutzim, before you venture off into these kind of vituperations, because I get sick of explaining "kibbutzim" to people.

The alterior motive, and problem, was Milosevic's inability to accept certain "free market" capitalist reforms. Milosevic refused to be a part of the economic framework of neo-liberalism. When such things happen, "credibility" is on the line.
Indeed Milosevic was no angel, but the Serb atrocities were not the real motive. They were incidental and helpful for propaganda purposes.

Come the fuck on buddy.


Nothing is simple in these issues, which liberals constantly point out, yet it is these same liberals (*cough*you*cough*) who seek to boil it down to some cause like "free market" capitalism.

So your contention would be that the US NEVER intervenes for humanitarian purposes?


As I said enough time was wasted here pointing out the obvious, namel that Chomsky distorts history and defends malignant cancers like Faurisson. The jury is alread in on this case, and your particular apologetics are not new, the other ones were deleted in shame.

Also you can quote sections of other people's posts by checking the posting guidelines, it will make it easier to read.

2235. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201922 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 12:17 pm

Styrer,

Cowardly cunts

Charles Doughty wrote in his Travels in Arabia Deserta that the Arabs were a "pusillanimous" bunch.... that applies to the Afghans as well, apparently.

2236. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201920 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 12:14 pm

Fanusi,






As Robbin Williams said: "Bomb them back the stone age and they just say 'oooh upgrade!'"


I don't know if that fixes the problem really. China and Pakistan have strong interests there as Afghanistan actually connects to China via the Wakkan Corridor (Vakhan). So total destuction of the society will only destroy society, not ideology, it will only reinforce what the Islamists are saying about the United States, a brutal empire seeking to maim Muslims societies.

2237. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201911 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 11:59 am

info-dump,






As a point of fact, there are "justices" on the Afghan supreme court who are moderates, and it looks as if this is a etched in stone law and they are implementing it. Doesn't make it less disgusting but that may well be the issue at the supreme court level.

2238. CFI-UN Hamid Karzai Letter

Comment #201905 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 11:57 am

I spoke with a friend who works in the Afghan government (as both his parents did prior to the Taliban). He is a royalist and very moderate religiously (to the point of it being what seems to be highly watered down monotheism).


I asked him what he thought about such a disgusting occurence, and he told me that this was tough cookies for the guy. He claimed that he was distributing the literature around and that the Afghans had decided what the law of the land should be and this was it. He said "this is democracy, and this is what you Americans claimed you wanted to give us."


I was completely shocked as this is someone who has argued against the implementation of shariah law on numerous occasions. Again very shocking and disturbing.

2239. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage

Comment #201898 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 11:50 am

qomak,





I agree. There is no reason to ban someone, save for basically vandalising the site or spamming. Ignore or ridicule everything else that is obnoxious and wrong.

The last thing anyone should do is censor someone's opinions, even when it is a total fuck nut like wooter/clearmind/assface or whatever he calls himself nowadays.

2240. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #201742 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 7:55 am

elephant,







They must mean the founding fathers. But in all honesty they generally just make shit up. Logically, if you are defending a lie, what is a few more lies?

2241. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #201713 by al-rawandi on June 30, 2008 at 6:22 am

qomak,






First of all, Holocaust denial has the following attendant consequences:


1) There is a world wide conspiracy.
2) This conspiracy is run by Jews.
3) It involves all Jews.
4) Jews have exploited this for money
5) They exert control over gentile governments to maintain this fraud.


These are unavoidable consequences. These are also the foundational elements of anti-semitic lies such as the blood libel and the Protocols.


What Chomsky did that was revolting was he said Faurisson himself was not an anti-semite and merely a "liberal intellectual". This is ridiculous because Faurisson is for all intents and purposes a neo-Nazi. He counts notable anti-semite Ernst Zundel as a friend and has contributed to IHR publications, another anti-semitic holocaust denying group.

Chomsky once again, tried to pass off a lie as truth. He never does this outright, he always gives himself plausable deniability, but he has gone too far several times, and this is one such time.

So Holocaust denial in a vacuum is one thing, holocaust denial in light of overwhelming evidence, in a country (France) that has numerous survivors and is situated only a few hundred miles from numerous concentration camps is anti-semitism. Faurisson did not operate in a vacuum, he operated with full access to all evidence and chose to behave like an Irving, Rami, or Zundel, rather than a Hillberg.

Chomsky was wrong, as is his habit.

2242. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #200383 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Clearmind,

birth-eat-poop-die

Are you sure this isn't your life cycle?


Allow me to rearrange that as an instruction:

"eat, poop, die"


In that order.

2243. Non-voters: It's all in God's hands

Comment #200380 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Tera Bat,

I really hope the Muslims believe they don't need to vote.

Me too.

2244. I believe that there is no God.

Comment #200378 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Steve,

Imagine a forum here is like a large group of (mainly) friends in a bar. Just think of the reaction if someone no-one runs into the bar, and starts cursing at the top of their voice

Those people make my weekend. It's therapy to "deal" with them.


But the anoymous persona on the internet would generally not behave as such in person.

2245. I believe that there is no God.

Comment #200341 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 10:40 am

Prove to me the earth is flat.

Prove to me that the moon landing was a conspiracy.

Prove to me that Martha Steward is a space alien.

The earth is flat, science hasn't proved it is round, and people who say it is round are just dogmatists.

The moon landing was a conspiracy by atheists. How do explain the flag moving in the picture, it was shot in a movie studio.

Marther Steward (sic) (try Stewart) is a space alien. How do I know, I feel it. Not only is she a space alien, she created all life on earth long ago and has returned to look over us and make cooking shows. She appears like she is a regular human being, but she simply has everyone fooled.

I feel it ok, I feel it. It just makes rational sense that the earth was created by a rational being, and Martha Stewart is that being.

2246. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #200330 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 10:25 am

Comment #200301 by advocatus_diaboli on June 27, 2008 at 9:25 am





Your link is ridiculous. Once again, it is in no way comparable. These officers were scared and heard gunfire and did something stupid.

And what happened? They were investigated, charged, tried and imprisoned. That is what happens here, when the police do something wrong, the people wronged have recourse. In Iraq the police simply allowed this to happen to this poor girl, and nothing was done to the police... no charges, no fines, no suspension.


Thanks for making my point for me. Our civilization IS exponentially better. Bad cops get sent to jail.

2247. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #200323 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 10:06 am

Vecingtorix,






I always found Chomsky useful. But I finally gave up on him once I discovered he lied about the Pol Pot massacres. And even more so once he said Holocaust denial is not anti-semitis, and then went one further and defended the Neo-Nazi Faurrison against charges of anti-semitism. (Faurrison counts Ernst Zundel as a friend).


Anyhow, enough of that.

2248. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #200316 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 9:49 am

Vecingtorix,






Some people just desparately want to hate and blame the United States. The indoctrination you mention in elementary schools is nothing compared to the indoctrination they receive from the likes of Chomsky. So-called "anarchist socialists", they attach fancy ideological positions after their name and on their media C.V., these shiny objects attract the wannabe intellectuals who think that if they mention the fact that the CIA hired Klaus Barbie and Reinhard Gehlen enough times that people will give up on a reasoned world view and join their brand of self flagellation.

It is so patently obvious that the two civilizations are incomparably different, that people like the advocatus here must lose themselves in minutia... "such and such police department had officers that did such and such." Of course never mentioning that these officers were investigated, fired, and prosecuted.

There is no comparison a sane man can make, so I assume these people are in fact insane.

2249. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #200305 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 9:29 am

In December 2002 Ayatollah Shahroudi, the Head of the Judiciary, reportedly sent a ruling to judges ordering a moratorium on execution by stoning, pending a decision on a permanent change in the law, which was apparently being considered by the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. However, in September 2003, a law concerning the implementation of certain kinds of penalties, including stoning, was passed, which appeared to undermine this moratorium. Also despite the moratorium, Amnesty International continued to record sentences of stoning being passed, though none of these were known to have been implemented until May 2006, when a woman and a man were reportedly stoned to death. The two victims - Abbas (m) and Mahboubeh (f) - were reportedly stoned to death in a cemetery in Mashhad, after being convicted of murdering Mahboubeh's husband, and of adultery - a charge which carries the penalty of stoning. Part of the cemetery was cordoned off from the public, and more than 100 members of the Revolutionary Guard, and Bassij Forces, who had been invited to attend, reportedly participated in stoning the couple to death.

Amnesty International, a favorite of anti-Zionists, had this to say about Iranian security forces PARTICIPATING in the stoning of two people.

2250. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #200304 by al-rawandi on June 27, 2008 at 9:26 am

Nice link that doesn't work.