Comments by Goldy

Comment #205190 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:17 pm

Isn't lack of belief in the Biblical God a poor way to identify atheists? By that criteria, Muslims are atheists, as are diests who believe an "intelligent agent" initiated the big bang and pantheists who believe God is synonymous with the cosmos. Belief that the Bible is the word of God is an even worse measure of theism

No, Muslims believe in a god (theos), as do, n a way, deists. Lack of belief in the Biblical god makes you a-Biblical God.

2302. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205185 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Going from dead to alive is a much bigger jump than going from tail-less to having a tail.

Were you alive before conception?

2303. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205184 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:11 pm

It was created and placed with such perfection and precision for life to be possible; you believe that to be the result of chaos?

I would also have to ask....why the other planets? Previous attempts? Failed experiments?

2304. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205179 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:06 pm

It was created and placed with such perfection and precision for life to be possible; you believe that to be the result of chaos? That's like saying that a from a tornado in a junkyard you would get a fully assembled Boeing 767.

Personal credulity. Life is here because the conditions are right, not the other way around. If you leave a mug of sugarry coffee on your desk, mould will form (trust me, it will. Yech!). If you put your mug in the feezer, it will not. Same coffee, different conditions. OK, I know you'll see my placement of the mug as evidence of God, we'll come to that later.

2305. Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

Comment #205177 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 6:05 pm

nacjho117, Why specifically God? I am also asking as he is not mentioned in Indian religious texts, Chinese religious texts or African religions (except those that came about as a result of missionary exposure). God is also absent in Pacific religions, American religions and Australasian religions.
In fact, God as we know him is only found in Levant religions derived from Judaism. Sumeria had no deity called God, neither did the Babylonians. Persian had a model for God called Zoroaster, but this god was not God. Northern Europe does not have God as an indigenous deity.
Why, then, do you assume it is a Judaic god? Solely because of the Bible?

2306. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204872 by Goldy on July 6, 2008 at 2:50 am

Mordacious1, you aren't the only one avatarly challenged. I can't work it out either. By the time I finished getting a photo small enough for RD.net to accept it, it shows nobbut an eyeball or nose hair that poked out...
Family here, so time for me to put wee daughter to her bed and lie next to my snoring wife (pregnancy does that, apparently). So good to have them back - and don't 2 year olds change in 3 weeks.
Oh, yeah, I got my PZ28 carbs - Chinese copies of Soviet copies of German carbs, I think they are. Anyway, look suitably old enough to fit to my Ural M66.
Primering a Jeep - soon I'll be doing that to an Alfa Giulia Super :-)
Oh, yeah - kill the cancer (religion) not the patient (the people). Not all Muslims are brain dead - they can be convinced. Those that can't....I'll think of something.

2307. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204730 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:47 pm

Apathy

On the subject of rugby, NZ - Why didn't you win the world cup?

The lack of answers shows this question is along the lines of Steve Zara's asking of David Robertson about his beliefs :-)
And yes, I have an Alfa Giulia Super, a 1973 model. Needs a lot of TLC, but it is a long term project. At the eBay/swapmeet/trawling through the internet finding parts stage.

Warzypants

My impression since migrating to NZ from the UK six years ago is that they appear much more religious here, with new churches popping up right left and centre, with generally strong baptist/Assembly of God/ Pentecostal creationist leanings.

You came over the same time as me :-) I haven't really noticed this - mind you, I got work in Auckland Uni with an English bloke with no belief in God. I haven't seen too many religious people - well, no more than I saw in the UK. Living in Glenfield, I see mainly Korean churches with just one small Samoan church opposite the wine shop (upmarket place - none of that cheap liquor store stuff). I only kow it is Samoan becasue the sign says it is a Samoan congregation of something or other...God and Jesus thingy.
Really, the only religious people I constantly see are Koreans and the odd Hong Kong Catholic. Oh yeah, the secretary in our department converted to Islam to marry her husband (they're both Fijian Indians) - mainly for the in laws as her husband is not the best of Muslims.

2308. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204722 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:36 pm

Think I linked this story from the Torygraph over on another thread. Good to see it again ;-)
My old RE teacher was a bit of a hippy. The Devil was, we were told to consider, the dark side of God.
I don't see why kids have to do a practical on praying and if it is on offer, why they should be made to do it. I can, like others, imagine the uproar if Muslim kids had to attemd mass...well, uproar from one parent...whose kids don't even go to the school in question... Would the media blow it out of all proportion just because Islam is mentioned? Naaaah...
Steve, I believe someone did mention wanting to see your face months ago. Maybe a year ago...gosh, has it been that long?

2309. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204499 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:38 am

Now that sounds like a mighty fine score :-)
Right, off to bed - big day tomorrow - family back. 3 weeks - man, I missed them!

2310. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204491 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:19 am

19 points to 8, an All Black victory :-)

I smacked my head open(let out an almighty jesusfuckingchrist)...hehe 5 stiches

Dunno, mate, he might have let you off ;-)
I remember going to North Shore hospital witht eh wife - waters had broken and we were waiting for a bed for her. Bloke came in with a nail through his little finger - obviously shot it through with a nail gun. He was on the phone saying "Yeah, got a nail through my finger. Shouldn't be too long...yeah, I know, I should have been careful...yeah, I know, I'm clumsy - look, can you keep my dinner warm til I get home?" Priceless!

2311. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204488 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:05 am

I'm trying to persuade a mate of mine to come over - he's a teacher and I'm sure qualified enough to be a head teacher. He's also an atheist, so that's be another nail in that coffin.
Ooooh, Dan's scored? No, Habana carried it over...

2312. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204486 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 4:00 am

Roger

Focus on the Family is an openly political and extreme right wing organisation

Guess they are the competition. Last election we had these http://www.brethren.org.nz/ - they don't vote but that doesn't stop them trying to manipulate the outcome by financial donations.
Oh yeah, then there's Brian Tamaki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Tamaki

2313. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204485 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:56 am

Just about caught the punch up - was ironing (OK, OK, I'll hand in my Man Card...)
Laurie

what are the laws regarding the teaching of cretinism in your schools?

I'm not sure yet - I'm hping it isn't allowed. Certainly at Auckland Uni cretinism would get you "null point"! Daughter's daycare tells me she is a "gift from God" which I object to - as I recall it was me and my wife doing the deed and she never mentions his name, no matter how good I might be.
I will find out soon, I guess....

2314. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204483 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:52 am

So, getting back to NZ religion - did you see that drop kick? Man, that went for miles! Still missed, mind!
Good job wife is somewhere near Hong Kong (I think, by now), Daniel Carter seems to be doing a fair bit. She fancies him.

2315. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204479 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:47 am

Heheheheheheheheheh! Aaah, mate, you crack me up :-D

2316. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204476 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:42 am

It was never offside,fuckwit touch judge out of position and guessed incorrectly

Was hard to tell from the TV...but it might have been. Touch is a whole heap closer than we are.
Love Southern hemisphere rugby! Hope the child gestating in the wife is a boy so he can play rugby. Of course, if my daughter decides to play, who am I to stop her :-)

2317. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204472 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:38 am

8teist - NO!

2318. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204471 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:37 am

This article seems to imply that the only way teaching is governed and restricted in US schools is by restricting the teaching material that public schools can purchase ?

Article is about New Zealand schools. You really want to cry, read the comments. Make me worry I emigrated for nothing.
Damn, almost another try but it was offside. Exciting match :-)

2319. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204468 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:33 am

Vaal, not to worry. There are some but they are rather quiet (well, until elections, then we find they do tinker a bit). Most of the religious I know are Pacific Islanders (who get accused of all the crime) and Koreans (who study, apparently). Main religion as far as I can tell is rugby (NZ 16, SA 8 as far as I can tell so far - don't have the Rugby Channel so watching on Prime...not live), fishing and driving really badly. I also believe there is a sub-religion involving two sects, Ford and Holden. Having an Alfa Romeo, I am waaay above both of them ;-)
I don't think the Prime Minister is particularly godly.....

2320. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204463 by Goldy on July 5, 2008 at 3:25 am

Two to tango? Are you implying that somehow we in the UK and in the US have done something to deserve and to require our participation in the deadly Muslim jig?

Apparently Israel is our fault - we Brits apparently set it up and the US supports it. Of course the explsion of Jews from Arab lands is glossed over, as is the treatment of Palestinians in the neighbouring Arab lands. Then there's the media's treatment of Islam. How did Brian help me call it....spiral of reinforcement. Look at the links I have provided - it does seem like there is a backlash against Islam which is making them all the more defensive and at the same time assertive. Muslims don't feel comfortable in the west anymore which is why they want the comforts of home. Heck, look at the headline above, the title of this thread.
We need to treat the religion, excise that. Somehow we need to make sure that the people are treated differently. Sort of like trying to cure cancer, I guess - you want to kill the cancer without killing the person. I just sometimes feel that some think killing the religion must somehow involve punishing the person....which I am a bit uncomfortable with.

2321. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204395 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 10:42 pm

GoodbyeGodNZ - thanks! That makes up more than enough for that other comment made a while ago - more than made up for that! You're in credit now :-)
Good job too - my punishment was to force you to take me to Galbraiths in Auckland and buy me beer til I fell on the floor. Hate to say it, but I appear to be able to drink a lot more than is healthy...
;-D

2322. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204383 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 10:18 pm

Fuck it, I'm sending my daughter to China if this gets any worse!
Seen the ads at the bottom of the article?

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2323. Christians challenge teaching of evolution

Comment #204354 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 9:03 pm

Hmmmm, what a scary thought. Haven't read this in the Herald yet...but I guess soon...

2324. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204324 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 6:15 pm

LGS, your post becomes a bit hard to understand near the end...

2325. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #204321 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 6:07 pm

In fact battery is prescribed in the Hadith if children refuse to pray at aged 10.

Vin, that sounds bad until you hear "Spare the rod and spoil the child". It's a standard old saying, with regional variations :-)

2326. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #204311 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 5:41 pm

Never mind sharia, what about actually having to worship? :-)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2247388/Schoolboys-disciplined-for-'refusing-to-pray-to-Allah'.html

Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah'

Kind of getting to know the feeling non-Christians had in the late western Roman Empire...

2327. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #204285 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 3:25 pm

Philip, deep breaths. Just remember, they only have a book to justify their claims. The scientists working to prove their hypotheses might be able to reconcile their findings to their book but they can't make it stick. The fundamentals are all wrong, you see - that's why they have to say God fiddled with the stuff to hide his trace :-) Of course, he fiddled badly - after all, if the world is only a few thousand years old, why would he make it appear to be several billion years old? Hell of a whoopsy, if you ask me.
Txpiper is a fan of cryptoscience. He is incredibly credulous and liable to believe any old crap that comes his way :-) Dress it up with nice long science-y words and he's yours :-) After all, he's really taken the dino soft tissue to heart - even serious scientists are still sketpical....
Rather him here than on the streets - remember, he'd be the nutter sitting next to you on the bus...

2328. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #204266 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:38 pm

Txty

Do you think there are strong counter-arguments for every point that writer makes?

If there wasn't, we wouldn't have geology, physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, etc, etc, etc.... :-) That's the thing about cryptoscience. It looks good but....
Have you seen my Islamic perspective of the flood? Any comments on that? And you'll find the link I sent gave references to other flood "mythologies", like the Miao in China. Why are they "mythologies"?

The intriguing questions are about why they are there

I have already given you references regarding soft dino tissue. Serious scientists are not as accepting of it as you are :-) As for Israel, read a history book. A good place to start, I guess, would be the end of the Ottoman Empire, the fall of the Caliphate and the Balfour Declaration...
Hardly intriguing questions - all the answers are there at the touch of a key and the click of a mouse. Just avoid site that go on about God - they do not provide 100% accuracy, I find...

2329. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204074 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 5:04 am

Think I'm off to Nod too!
Nite all!

2330. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204072 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 5:00 am

About 6 ;-)
Nah, you're right. I find that religious education somehow reinforces secularism. Most people only do it for the qaulity of the education. I want to a strong CoE school and I am an atheist, as are all my mates from there. I don't know why education appears to be better at a church funded school but I cannot see an increased religiosity from attending one - any more than I can can see homosexuality decreasing with heterosexual parents.
It don't work that way.

2331. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204068 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:49 am

Hehehehehehehe! He was also the dodgy feller in the recent Starwars movie :-)
I watched Bad Taste. Had to come to NZ after that!

2332. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204064 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:46 am

You know, Brian, I was very close to going to Melbourne. Wife did her MBA there and has friends there. I really liked it - apart form them bloody flies...
But I like Auckland. I really do. I know there are stories about people being killed in south Auckland and the story of those Russian couples being bashed in North Shore (gang related, apparently) but I really feel at home here. And safe. Though this is the only country I have had a car stolen in...

2333. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204062 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:43 am

Europe maintains state religions, and that's destroyed faith completely.

The point I was making is that hiding behind this sort of equivocation is nonsense.

Maybe, Fanusi, that's the tactic. Sharia doesn't deliver the required answer, the state provides. Sharia is then discredited.

2334. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204059 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:39 am

Well it didn't take long for African culture to show its true colours.

Zimbabwe - hopefully not a vision of the future!
Vaal

You not a Steinlager fan Goldy?

At $3.99 for 750ml, I am :-) But today is Friday, time for proper beer. So many good brewers in NZ - they need my support! Hic! Gang culture seems to be a problem here. I don't know if that is the media or what - hopefully a more knowledgeable Kiwi will educate us. It isn't as safe as people think it is but it is safer than anywhere else I know.

2335. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204056 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:34 am

And where exactly are these Christians, Jews, and Hindus who want to demolish the secular state?

BJP in India. Fundies in the US wanting ID taught in schools. OK, Jews only have Israel but they're doing a damn fine job in Palestinian lands.
They aren't newsworthy yet - but shit, man, they are there. As soon as the Muslims are out of the way, we get to enjoy their vision of the world :-)
Brian, spiral of... hang on...reinforcement is brill!

2336. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204049 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:23 am

Spiral of reinforcement - I like that. Positive feedback loop we call it in science :-)
Honey wheat beer and white chocolate loops - heaven!
Fanusi, You can be so simplistic sometimes. Are you sure they don't oppose it worldwide? Are they allowed to oppose it worldwide? Did we oppose Iraq too strongly? Yeah, we marched, but the troops still went. And our media isn't like the archbish and the judge when it comes to seeing the Muslim point of view, is it?
Spiral of reinforcement, mate, spiral of reinforcement...

Edit...drunkenly...cheers Steve! I knew I could count on you. You're the best...*Mike falls on the floor, starts snoring*...

2337. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204044 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:14 am

Hic. Errr...ok. Translation. You'll have to read slow cause I can't type too fast now...
I read nasty stuff in the papers. I start to get annoyed. Vent frustration at brown folk because it stands to reason they're Muslim. They retreat adn feel us white folk hate them because they are brown folk. Retreat makes them sink into their culture which is Islam, ergo I dislike them more. They realise it is their culture and beliefs that cause my hatred and they think I'm a boor and they show off their belief. I start to hate them. They start to hate me.
Something like that.
Hic.
Time for another. I better brew some more - this homebrewing is great fun!

2338. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204035 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 4:04 am

Money, is the simple answer
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080619094759AA4y8ia
I heard it on the BBC

2339. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204033 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 3:57 am

Brian, they might only do me harm because of what they have been told which has been reinforced by what I have heard and made me feel that way about them which has made them feel that way about me.
Damn, this beer is strong! Manuka honey wheat beer rules! Hic!!!

2340. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204032 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 3:55 am

Goldy, know you of such a bird?

Sort of...she was white and had a 'tache. I know of a Chinese lass who might fit - they are wanting to be reclassified as black in South Africa.....

2341. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204028 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 3:50 am

Hungarianelephant, I'll vote for a black lesbian atheist whisky drinker. That's rattle the Mail ;-)
Edited for drunlen spelling...bloody home brew!

Edit the secong...of fuck it...fingers too fucked...hic! Whatchoo looking at?

2342. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204026 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 3:46 am

Goldy, I am sorry, but that is nonsense. I go into Slough High street, and hear Muslim apologists spout the vilest and most hateful filth you have ever heard in your life, almost identical to the reporting from the dispatches "Undercover mosque".

Aaaah, Slough! We used to live in Gerrards X and then I lived in Reading. Old man had a Citroen Light 15 (actually an Onze Legere as it was French, not Slough built) in a lock up in Slough - I got caught behind some Muslim gathering, all placards and stuff and had to follow them down the road to my lock-up (typically, they had to go my way!). Took and hour to do a few hundred yards...
I know what you mean - I have friends who want to leave the UK because of the Islamisation they perceive is happening back home. They feel the same way as you, I think.
I just find it amusing because the backlash is occurring - have you read the comments? Patience is running out - they ask for so much, get granted so much (by the Archbish and the highest judge in the land) yet complain how oppressed they are. Things are getting stretched thin, seems to me.
It is counter productive - your law abiding Muslims are pissed off at those that ask for the caliphate in the UK but then they are not singled out for good treatment - all Muslims are targetted, whether they are believers or not. This has a knock on effect because most Muslims are Pakistani and therefore stand out a bit. Hindus hate them because they are tarred by the same brush.
HAtred against Muslims is closing their ranks, I think. They are laagering themselves, living in ghettoes with the perceived safety in numbers where they are easy targets for those that want to cause separation.
This article helps that, as do the other articles.
Muslims are obviously not the Jews of now - except for those that just want to live normally but follow the religion of their fathers. Law abiding, have a drink in the pub, maybe not eat pork but not make a fuss if someone eats a bacon butty next to them sort of Muslim. Muslims with kids that don't go to mosques or even pray. These guys are the "Jews" - they don't care for that shit but because they are Pakistani, because they are Indian looking, they are targetted. Hell, even an atheist called Iqbal Hussein is targetted - no one asks him what his views are, they just see his name and label him.

Unlike NZ, I do get very worried when friends and family travel in London, as there is a real threat of mass murder by Islamist fascists

20 years ago, we felt the same about Irish nationalists. And NZ is not that safe. What about that Bauer girl? Or the Sikh liquor shop owner gunned down, followed by the 80 year old Chinese woman battered to death in her own home, or the Chinese mother run over as she fought to get her handbag back. Indeed, as the liquor dhop owner lay bleeding to death, bystanders took the opportunity of helping themselves to booze.
We worry overmuch, we are easily led by the media who sensationalise shit and are easily led by those that want to sow suspicion.
I know I can't condemn because I am also caught up in all this shit. I feel guilty and bad, but I can't help it. I can almost see myslef in Germany in the late 30's, hating the Jews because of what I hear. I don't want to feel this way, but they are winning, depsite my best attempts to not let those that want to cause trouble win. It scares me that I am so easily led and that shows in my comments sometimes.

2343. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204004 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:40 am

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/07/have-your-say-m.html
Comments on the Independent article
Edit
I liked this

THE DISGUSTING RACIST,IGNORANT,BIGOTED FILTH DIRECTED AT MUSLIMS ON THIS SUBJECT CLEARLY SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF WORK MUSLIMS HAVE TO PROMOTE THE TRUE MESSAGE OF ISLAM TO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BLIND TO EDUCATION AND OBTAINING KNOWLEDGE.THE RELIGION OF ISLAM HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE MUSLIMS MISGUIDED BY UNLEARNED BIGOTS WHOSE ACTIONS HAVE FUELLED THE TABLOID MEDIA FEEDING LOW INTELLIGENCE READERS WITH INACCURATE INFORMATION (LIES) .THIS RESULTING IN COMMENTS THAT WE ARE WITNESSING ON THIS BOARD. I ADVISE THE ANY NON MUSLIM TO TRAVEL TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND VISIT COUNTRIES LIKE ,ISRAEL PALESTINE,SYRIA,YEMEN YOU WILL FIND CHURCHES SYNAGOGUES,OVER 1400 YEARS OLD (YES DURING THE REIGN OF ISLAMIC EMPIRE).ARE YOU AWARE THE KEY HOLDER TO THE CHURCH OF NATIVITY IN BETHLEHEM THE HOLIEST PLACE TO CHRISTIANS IS HELD BY A MUSLIM WHO PROTECTS THE SITE.THIS HAS BEEN THE TRADITION FOR OVER 1400 YEARS.THIS IS THE EXAMPLE OF THE TRUE ISLAM WHICH STILL EXISTS.

Posted by: saif | Friday, 04 July 2008 at 04:26 AM

2344. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #204001 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:32 am

ThoughtsonCommonToad - have you read the comments?

2345. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203999 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:31 am

But then again maybe he would start WW3. :)

Nah, he's got a reputation now. Like the mad uncle who spouts off, no one listens anymore :-)
Deaf now, so I hear....(oooh, that sounds cutting, eh?)

2346. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203995 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:28 am

Well, well - even atheist are trolls!
Edit - referring to you know who...

2347. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203992 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:26 am

"If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." (at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting)

Can't argue with that one!
Look at the dates, mate. From 1966 to 2002 :-) It's an institution now. He HAS to make a gaffe otherwise the visit isn't complete. Imagine the disappointment! ;-)

Soooo, what do all these monarchy/some elected person acting like God appointed them have to do with the Daily Mail's wildly inflammatory article?

2348. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203986 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:14 am

Wouldn't it be fabulous if Bishop Robinson shows up in pink sequin cape and brings Rowan Williams some Chinese made nose hair trimmers as a hostess gift?

He'd have to go to Africa to get any reaction. Rowan would probably thank him and give him a cup of tea and a biscuit. Reading the papers, it's not really the English bishops that are kicking up a fuss...
But this article above - what are your views?

Edit - do you know where New Zealand is?

2349. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203985 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:10 am

Man, why am I in NZ when I could have been in the UK! I could have bought California with the contents of my pocket when I emigrated (67 pence and a receipt from Tesco).
Mind you, great thing about being in NZ is that Helen Clark doesn't do God. At all.
Oh, Apathy, one wee point...

all decisions and all governing done by houses of parliament - who are democratically elected

House of Lords. Some are there by "Grace of God", as it were. Good job they sleep most of the time ;-)

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Comment #203979 by Goldy on July 4, 2008 at 2:00 am

Mordacious1, I think one of the reasons the price of oil is so high is the weakness of the dollar. Don't worry though, been using the opportunity of getting stuff from the US via eBay :-) A weak dollar does have its uses to the American seller :-D

Edit - just reading your comment again, I can see what you mean! £40 = $80 million? Wow! :-D