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Comment #238048 by Diacanu on August 27, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Myself-
Yes, we're all really lucky Richard is Richard, and not me.
If I were Richard, I'd've impaled one of these douchebags in the ass with a trident, screaming "I gotcha strident right here, mothafokka!!!!", and been in jail.
202. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #238040 by Diacanu on August 27, 2008 at 2:22 pm
So, I've missed a shitload of posts...
Are Fanusi and TWP still pro-torture monsters?
Or did their humanity come back to them?
203. It's no wonder evangelical atheists need to shout so loud
Comment #238037 by Diacanu on August 27, 2008 at 2:18 pm
squinky-
I don't know how Dawkins maintains such gentlemanly composure and refrains from even raising his voice.
204. It's no wonder evangelical atheists need to shout so loud
Comment #238019 by Diacanu on August 27, 2008 at 2:01 pm
They wonder, for example, where the first gene, selfish or not, came from. Or, if it came from the soup, where did the soup come from? Or the universe as a whole?
The problem, however, is that some people find raising the question, even if they don't know the answer, a meaningful act.
Wonder is something enlightened atheists never could abide.
205. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236584 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 8:38 pm
kkelly-
yay, diacanu's back. call her stupid in a sexist way again.
206. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236581 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 8:32 pm
ColdFusionLazarus-
"bimbo" is generally regarded as an offensive term for a woman is unintelligent.
I accept that you may want to call someone unintelligent, but the fact that TWP is a woman just shouldn't come in to it.
On a personal note, I may not agree too much with some of the recent comments of TWP, but I generally think she is an intelligent contributor to this site.
207. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236576 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Steve Zara-
This thread has certainly lifted some metaphorical rocks and found some horrors crawling underneath.
I don't recall feeling so down about a site for quite some time. There I go with those damned feelings again!
I love a good argument, even when it gets intense, but I am not going to hang around and be patronised by people like Fanusi and TWP. It may be foolish to have self-respect, but I deserve better than that, and don't have to put up with it.
So, I'll shut up for a while. I'm off on holiday soon anyway, and am going to try and resist the temptation to take a laptop... I will be contactable by PM or e-mail if anyone feels the need....
As they say, if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen...
208. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236356 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Fanusi-
I should really resist this tempation, but I thin it has to be said...
209. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236351 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 2:24 pm
ColdFusionLazarus-
But I think it best to retract the "bimbo" statement.
210. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236341 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Fanusi-
It's just that you seem to be hell bent on demonstrating that you're not one of them.
211. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236338 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Fanusi-
Diacanu, I find it interesting that you can somehow convince yourself that a point-by-point (there were two of them) dismemberment..
of your idiotic insult
is just 'nitpicking'. Words have an exact meeting. If not, if I can be 'nationalist' while advocating internationalism, well, then I can say your a car-thief without having ever stolen cars. Hmmmm?
Oh, and as regars that 'jackboot' comment - could you please keep your strange fanatsies about me to yourself?
It's very nice to hear it in public and, again, there are ladies present.
212. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236325 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Fanusi-
I don't know whether you have all noticed, but we're on a chat-board. What on earth makes you think that your ill-mannered swears mean anything to me?
213. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236302 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Logicel-
I don't see it as sexism.
I call shallow males himbos.
I'm an equal opportunity insulter.
214. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236293 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Oh, forgot Fanusi.
Fanusi, nitpicking won't get you out of being a fascist.
Taking the jackboots off will.
215. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236282 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Bonzai-
I don't think so. You don't get in jail for just being a Muslim, or even believing in Jihad. In the scenario we are talking about you end up there because your belief has made you commit mass murder.
Now I don't see anything chilling to make you give up that belief.
Would you find it "chilling" that convicted Nazi war criminals were forced to undergo deNazification?
216. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236278 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Bonzai-
The point is both prohibition of pork and the prohibition of the depiction of Muhammad are taboos that stem from the same religious teaching and are equally stupid (or "trivial" as someone said earlier)
You are being inconsistent while you gladly thumb your nose at one and treat the other as some kind of sacred cow.
While you say "this is not the same", you are making a judgment from your stand point,
not that of a Muslim. What do you say to those who do think having Mohammad's cartoon shown around is deeply offensive to them like putting their deceased grandfathers' corpse on public display? You don't have to be forced to see it to feel deeply hurt.
217. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236269 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 12:24 pm
TWP-
You could of course ignore me
218. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236255 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Bonzai-
Is it any more of a torture than denying a drug addict a fix in prison?
The only reason that a convicted jihadist would think that pork is a torture is his stupid belief,
which he chose voluntarily.
It is like you smoke crack voluntarily and then get hooked. Being fed pork would cease to be a torture
if he stops his nonsensical beliefs,
And by your logic, how is showing Muhammad's face in disrespectful cartoons and broadcast them around not a "torture"?
219. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236245 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:57 am
Ah, spoke too soon, she's still jabbering.
220. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236241 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:54 am
Fanusi-
Authoritarian and nationalist.
That's good enough for me.
221. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236231 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:47 am
TWP-
No comment.
222. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236228 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:44 am
Fanusi-
Well, your example is why I hate Hobbes, and prefer Locke.
And, let me also be another in the growing crowd that chimes in that you are a fascist.
223. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236219 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:37 am
Steve Zara-
Sorry to everyone for the rant, but I am fed up with this kind of poisonous nonsense.
224. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236213 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:33 am
huzonfurst-
The battlefield is a different situation than courts and prisons, don't be obtuse.
225. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236210 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:28 am
TWP-
No but they are already in prison, justice served. They have to eat, why not throw them a pork?
For jesus christ sake let me re-phrase this for all of you jihad terrorist human rights activist out there:
Why sadistic revenge for a jihad terrorist is something to whine about?
226. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236204 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:23 am
Fanusi-
I was talking about the fact that 'feelings' mean zip when it comes to finding the truth.
You see what I'm driving at?
Emotions are great, they're why life's worth living, but they must be coupled to reason.
And the profound thinkers are always profoundly passionate. Read Aristotle. Read Darwin. Read a biography of Einstein. Read Michael Collins, where he describes what it was like to see the continents fly past as he orbited the earth. These men were and are all profoundly passionate - and profoundly rational.
227. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236200 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:16 am
As for the porkchop thing, y'know, I might've found that idea funny fresh after 9/11, when I had a good couple gallons of hate and fear in my heart, but it's been 7 fucking years, I've dealt with it, I've grown and matured.
And now, the 2008 model Diacanu says, fucking with people's food? Grow up, people, it's fucking torture.
Whatever the psychology of the people, no matter how irrational one finds islam, or vegetarianism, or whatever, you may as well be feeding them shit.
And if feeding someone shit is torture, then sure as fuck a porkchop to a muslim is.
I hate islam, but I sure a shell won't stoop to what amounts to shoving a turd in a muslim's gob.
If you become what you hate, what right do you have to hate evil?
I'm so sick of America's reaction boiling down not to morality, but in-group out-group.
Oh, we'll be the same kind of assholes, but we hate them because of their eating habits, and funny hats.
Fuck you, that's not the America I signed on for.
Or, maybe it is, and I didn't read the fine print.
If that's the case, I dissolve the contract.
228. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236188 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:08 am
Steve Zara-
Received, and responded to.
229. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236182 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 11:03 am
Fanusi-
Of course this always happens when you 'feel' rather than think.
230. Channel 4 announces return of Undercover Mosque
Comment #236179 by Diacanu on August 24, 2008 at 10:59 am
Thewhitepearl-
please point out to me why sadistic revenge for a jihad terrorist is something to whine about?
231. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235838 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 6:16 pm
(Continuing from 373)
I actually threw that one at a christian once who thought that was a stupid argument.
"Well of COURSE they heard of Jesus first, how else would they recognize him?", was the gist of his reasoning.
Stupid? I think it would be pretty fucking impressive if Jesus introduced himself to some native on some island that've never seen hide nor hair of christianity.
Would sure lend credence to the dude being out there, instead of inside people's heads who've already heard the story for him to be crawling around in there along with Spiderman, and Cap'N Crunch.
Meh, he refused to see the logic,and went on the personal attack, and he got away in a smokescreen like they always do.
Pulled a David Robertson, and said he had to go garden, and fuck his wife.
Y'know, the usual.
232. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235836 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Quine-
whereas faith derives from personal revelation, or belief in the words of those claiming such revelation.
233. What Binti Jua Knew
Comment #235808 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Silentmike-
Would you put ape killers and ape rapists (of other apes) in ape jail?
234. Kamikaze bacteria illustrate evolution of co-operation
Comment #235669 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 11:29 am
Joe mo-
Since they lack any scientific evidence,...
235. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235419 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 2:53 am
...sorry for the silliness...it's 5:54 am, and i haven't slept yet.
Just heard the cheep of the first bird waking up....
..shut off, brain, sleep..sleeep....
236. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235417 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 2:49 am
Dr Doctor-
Mister M.D.
could you tell me
what's ailin' me?
237. Pastor Michael Guglielmucci spun gospel of lies
Comment #235414 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 2:36 am
*Sarcastic smirk at the current melee*
Ah, we all have fun here, don't we?
*Holds up drink in an air toast*
238. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235411 by Diacanu on August 23, 2008 at 2:16 am
markblur1-
Shh, careful, you'll get David after you quote mining you.
239. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235336 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 8:08 pm
AfraidTodie-
There's really no way to sneak evolution past a religite without the anti-religious implications biting 'em on the nose eventually.
240. On TV: The Genius of Charles Darwin: Presented by Richard Dawkins
Comment #235334 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Appleby-
How do we decide or know what to go against and what not to go against?
241. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235318 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Well, in America at least, creationism is purely a christian literalist idea/movement.
242. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235312 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm
AfraidToDie-
RD says "It's one reason why I don't believe in God".
243. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235280 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 4:12 pm
J Mac-
Disable tap clicks.
Fuggin' thing's a pain in the ass.
244. Supernatural science: Why we want to believe
Comment #235279 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 4:10 pm
*Shrug*
Meh, to each his own, I guess.
It just didn't do it for me.
And you may have saw it as escapism, but I think it fueled this cultural wave of UFO shit on education channels, and reality shows about ghostbusters.
To which you'll probably say something to the effect of "why didn't Batman inspire a cultural wave of costumed vigilantes?".
To which I say bigfoot, UFOs, ghosts, are shit people "want to believe".
I don't know WHY people latch on to those particular legends, but I would've avoided 'em like a hooker with a cold sore.
245. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235274 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm
PennAndTeller-
But to then be so arrogant to think, that as a scientist, he has the science to prove that their is no God is his delusion.
246. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235259 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Meadon-
But, clearly, you can give up literalism without giving up God.
247. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235256 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 3:53 pm
PennAndTeller-
You cannot prove there is no God or Intelligent Designer regarding the origins of life.
248. Supernatural science: Why we want to believe
Comment #235254 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Yes, unite brothers and sisters!
I knew the whole planet couldn't be into that shitty, plotless, pointless, directionless, meandering, credulity peddling, shark jumping fucking show.
249. Supernatural science: Why we want to believe
Comment #235249 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Peacebeaponme-
Oh! Thank you! I'm not alone! I'm not alone!
250. Why Dawkins is right and his critics are wrong
Comment #235242 by Diacanu on August 22, 2008 at 3:41 pm
PennAndTeller-
That's a pretty sad way.