201. Female Muslim medics 'disobey hygiene rules'

Comment #121400 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 11:03 am

My initia responce was to figure no one would choose to go to a dr. that doesnot practic proper proper sterization procedures. After further thought tho I wonder these people donot have the best track record on these matters. Once again this is realy fucked up.

202. Hitchens V. Boteach

Comment #121389 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 10:50 am

would it be too dificult for you to explain to me what backquout and HTML tags are? keeping in mind that I am extremly computer iliterate. I would completly understand if you figured it mite be too much trouble.

203. Hitchens V. Boteach

Comment #121386 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 10:44 am

Steve. one or two things. In general oposition to your position, I think It can at laest be arguaed that its posible at least that fewer kids would starve w/in a system thatdoesnot force others to feed those kids, thereby helping more people to have more kids. that is I think a better argument against your safty net than that some would take advantage of it.

204. God-Man and Human-Man Team Up

Comment #121364 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 9:49 am

Thanx IceFreak. My intial responce was this is great, are thre any others

205. God the psycho

Comment #121357 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 9:38 am

Discovering the Pat Condell vidios has been one of the coolest things I have experienced thru this site, and there is useally plenty of interesting ideas to be had here.

206. The Repeater

Comment #121349 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 9:28 am

I realy donot understand this

207. The Repeater

Comment #121345 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 9:24 am

...ants

208. The Repeater

Comment #121134 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 1:33 am

I give up I realy do hve something somewhat interestig to say but for some reason this thing doesnot at the moment want to let me get past the word ants

209. The Repeater

Comment #121129 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 1:29 am

God dammit ...how ants

210. The Repeater

Comment #121115 by babrock on February 3, 2008 at 1:18 am

In general this reminds me of one of the smaller ideas, tho one that I found particularly interesting in "Blind Watchmaker" I think, relating to how ants

211. God vs. Gridiron

Comment #120780 by babrock on February 2, 2008 at 1:44 pm

If you donot like football, fine your choice, and we all at this site donot like religon, again fine. I, tho, donot see any particular diferenc betwn the potential copyright infringment from any given bar or resteraunt advertizing Superbowl activities and a church doing the same.Fair is fair. We could do better than to pick this as a battle to fight in.,

212. U.S.: 'Demonic' militants sent women to bomb markets in Iraq

Comment #120720 by babrock on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 am

I guess if t women were only like 9 or so, were actualy carying puppies and, like PJG noted, had not died quickly it could have been a lower more despicable act, but that is about it. I imagine the only reason the bomb wasnot bigger was only because the women could not carry more weight, and that it was not nuclear or biological for similar reasons involving ease and practicality rather than any reason remotly resembling morality.

213. Atheism and Violence

Comment #120701 by babrock on February 2, 2008 at 10:46 am

I could have sworn that Id previosly posted my comment but I dont see it. I must not have pushed the submit button hard fast or repeatedly enuf or something. So again, this time in shortened form;If one can stick ones head in the sand regarding how unrelated gods actual existence is to the resulting threatened punishment for evil, then I think that that mite actualy be their (faithheads) strongest case. We all like to think of ourselves as good people, but history and the news show there is no shotage of people treating other peole badly w/o the excuse religon often gives them and fear of punishment often may be the only thing preventing it.

214. Sentenced to death: Afghan who dared to read about women's rights

Comment #120655 by babrock on February 2, 2008 at 8:27 am

violence begats violence but sometimes itis the only viable option. And when to tolerate others intolerance is a tough question unfortunatly w/ no beter answer than to decide it on a case by case basis which is almost no answer at all. To my mind tho, it seams resonable to figure that since we are already there we might as well be doing something more than simply letting this go on unopossed and that the petition is a decent enuf of a start.

215. Dawkins is third most prolific internet Briton

Comment #120543 by babrock on February 1, 2008 at 11:39 pm

annabanana To say that I live to be noticed on this site would be to exsagerate my guilt on the matter but I do take an inordinate amount of enjoyment on the matter as we, the wife and I, just got this computer last Oct. and just figured out how to log on and post to this site a mo. or so back. So anyway thanx imensly and what is rotfl.

216. Richard Dawkins on The Big Debate

Comment #119840 by babrock on January 31, 2008 at 10:26 pm

Once again we have some muslim bitching about being persicuted for persicutng almost everyone who differs w/ them, all the while calling themselves tolerant. If only we would see things their way, they could quit trying to kill everyone who differed w/ them. I have heard it said that Hitler wanted peace, peace in a world that he ruled, w/ no jews gypsys,ect.. Richard was trying to nail him on this or at least get him to give the charge a straight answer when the moderater stepped in and changed the subject.

217. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #119838 by babrock on January 31, 2008 at 10:00 pm

Like Gymnopedie, I also thought the worst was the the muslim guy santimoniosly going on about how tuff it is that someone (salmon r. in this case) keeps forcing them to try to kill them by offending their particular imaginary friend. Like " If only my wife/child would stop pissing me off, I could stop beating her.

218. Dawkins is third most prolific internet Briton

Comment #119327 by babrock on January 31, 2008 at 1:47 pm

That Kieth Richards fellow I have heard of too. I think he was the drummer for the Beatles or something.

219. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #117743 by babrock on January 29, 2008 at 2:13 pm

This is a responce to evanelionfreek untimely as it will be. If I understood you corectly, Goodness, count your blessings. The plesure one derives from defeating one of these morons in any given pissing contest is too small. It is way too easy for one. Did it sound like Richard felt like he had acomplished anything particularly chalenging. Or more that it was a waste of his time as it is for all of us in that sence. Not in the sence that it doesnot need to be done to make this world more rational. Just that we could all be doing things more valuable. Belive me, if you have found a place where you donot have to deal w/ these dumbasses I'll swap you.

220. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #117742 by babrock on January 29, 2008 at 2:13 pm

This is a responce to evanelionfreek untimely as it will be. If I understood you corectly, Goodness, count your blessings. The plesure one derives from defeating one of these morons in any given pissing contest is too small. It is way too easy for one. Did it sound like Richard felt like he had acomplished anything particularly chalenging. Or more that it was a waste of his time as it is for all of us in that sence. Not in the sence that it doesnot need to be done to make this world more rational. Just that we could all be doing things more valuable. Belive me, if you have found a place where you donot have to deal w/ these dumbasses I'll swap you.

221. Ore. Court: Boy Has Say in Circumcision

Comment #116368 by babrock on January 26, 2008 at 10:27 am

NJS. Thanx. Whle I also find that "sex is still enjoyable" I can now move on to being suitably pissed about being screwed as well.

222. Ore. Court: Boy Has Say in Circumcision

Comment #116362 by babrock on January 26, 2008 at 10:12 am

1st off Mango is right. The real problem is female circumcision. Now on to me displaying what may appear to be massive ignorance. If it were not for my wife who assures me that I am circ., I would not know it. I obviosly donot consciously remember whatever pian it mite have caused me and I donot pay too much atention to other guys wangs. I am completly open to the posibility that I could be wrong on this but isnot there a case for it being for ones good, like flouride in ones water or inoculation for a disease?

223. Launch of 'Atheists in Foxholes' Book Anthology

Comment #116206 by babrock on January 25, 2008 at 8:46 pm

And mdowe; Your earlyer posting was almost exactly the same as my take on it.That is basicly it. Tho one can always hope we figure out somethig better.

224. Loneliness Breeds Belief in Supernatural

Comment #116201 by babrock on January 25, 2008 at 8:20 pm

I have never seen Major Leage. From the adds I have seen for it ,it strikes me as a movie filled w/ charactors that would have me prefering to be "deserted on a remote island" rather than w/ them( tho not quite as bad as having Hanible eat my face). Maybe I am wrong & it is filled w/ interesting people doing things I would actually care about but on the chance that I am right would not that screw w/ the results of the experiment.

225. Launch of 'Atheists in Foxholes' Book Anthology

Comment #116197 by babrock on January 25, 2008 at 7:58 pm

RE:23again Deepthought; You and I were going back and forth a bit yesterday, i think, in a manner that I, at least, thought of as equals & hell, I am pushing 50. Also while I can't guaranty this I asume you are an at least somewhat rational person or you wouldnot be here. And for me, at least, a rational life tends to get better as one goes along as one is open to learnig more than one who comes at it asuming most all there is to know is already known.

226. US scientists close to creating artificial life: study

Comment #116005 by babrock on January 25, 2008 at 9:03 am

Absolutely just a judgment call on my part but to my mind the 3 most grave threats humanity faces at present are 1. Environmental degredation 2. The threat from fanatical Islamofacists w/ some weapon of mass destruction and 3 Running out of energy that the world runs on. This guy, Rubin maybe, has a book "Energy Victoty" where he puts forth an idea that seams to deal w/ all 3 that involves transition to biofuels. The bigest problem I could see w/ it all was some arising from growing all this biofuel. Lack of enuf water was what ocered to me as t most likely. It ocered to me that it would not be at all imposible to develope somethig that could grow on salt water. Thank goodness for science

227. Secrets of bird flight revealed

Comment #115736 by babrock on January 24, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Thnking of the word "debate" in conection w the conversations we have at work makes me laff.Thanx The word "conversation" is actioly a bit of a stretch.

228. Secrets of bird flight revealed

Comment #115720 by babrock on January 24, 2008 at 2:58 pm

deepthought ;Precicly, I pointed out Exodus 20v20-21. Where it actualy does allow one to kill one own slave just so long as he lives for a couple days. But like I said they do not reply rationaly. On the swearing, I do not take myself seriosly enuf to wory about it making me look bad in general.

229. Secrets of bird flight revealed

Comment #115696 by babrock on January 24, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Hey Deepthouth;along a somewhat similar line: One of my faverate routines is to ask them " If I wrote 'God says kiss this' on my ass, would you?" and if not what is the differenc. Needless to say I have won few converts w that tact nor ever recieved a rational reply.

230. The real danger in Darwin is not evolution, but racism

Comment #115183 by babrock on January 23, 2008 at 6:11 pm

MPil waxing about his love of German culture reminds me of something I always like to say;That us Dutch people are obviosly supirior to the rest of you cretins because of our world reknown tolerence- not to mention great speling abilities.Also I too am curios to hear Dawkins take on this .I know he has said how one should not judge someone from the past by todays standards (Maybe it apeared at the time like those races realy were inferior) Still it must be tuff to have a hero of yours say that.

231. Banned From Church

Comment #115168 by babrock on January 23, 2008 at 5:32 pm

It strikes me as a great idea. They are carying their smug arogent pomposity to the next logcal level therefor showing more their true colors.

232. Violence fear over Islam film

Comment #114793 by babrock on January 22, 2008 at 8:22 pm

If one is in a burning bldg one would not ask the political persuasion of the guy w the water hose. And like Tycho Dog says they deserve to be told to fuck off. a jugment call on my part but it occures to me that if they had been told to fuck off in this manner previosly they might have by now become calloused to being offended and would not have then been so bent out of shape when the Danish cartoon came out. Which I still do not think I have seen yet.

233. Ken Ham in Leicester April 2008

Comment #114747 by babrock on January 22, 2008 at 5:18 pm

I think I am w/ Adey73 on this.What is this. How is this signifigantly diferent than say a church buliten from any given megachurch or whatever (I do not know if they put their bulitens online nowdays) going on about whatever head up their butt nonesence they are twadling on about on any given Sunday.

234. The Mind of the Market

Comment #114746 by babrock on January 22, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Thanx for responding. And yes, mentioning Stalin may not have been the most apropriot thing. I realy am at least slightly more verbal in other formats, but I am particularly computer iliterate and type poorly ect. In short tho; all i saw was haveing everything run/coordinated by a comitee. How are they not the new coordinator class even if some of them do initialy come from the working class. Also I went to the 1st web address & saw about it but my computer is haveing some problem getting me to the 2nd.Thanx again tho.

235. Islam in Europe

Comment #114737 by babrock on January 22, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Here is a small idea relating to what MaxD was saying. A case can be made for just about anything;.. as every option is going to have its own set of advantagis & disadvantagis. If you make it a rule to have everyone walk on their hands their shoes will last longer. The key is to my mind simply to provide as much choice as posible w/in reason and let the consumer decide.No one would choose anything as ridiculuos as my hand option but the range of options, that people would pick from and therefor others would provide, tends to be incredible

236. Islam in Europe

Comment #114732 by babrock on January 22, 2008 at 4:17 pm

I realy like just about every thing pat says.It is right on - both as an educational thing & just as stuff that us athiests would enjoy imensly. Also I like his atitude regarding all the fucked up aspects of all the fucked up shit hapening - never backing down from seeing it & telling it like it is but mantaining a smile thruout. I imagine that requirs some efort on his part. Anyway I have searched them out and he seams to have 3 or 4 dozen & we'v only 1 here on the Dawkins site. I think it would be worthwile for someone to move or download the rest of them here .

237. The Mind of the Market

Comment #114142 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 12:42 pm

I realy do not undestand why that keeps hapenig. sorry. Any way M. Shermers talk was as I expected almost absolutely awesome. and I am goig to leave off throwing my two cents in hopfuly i will figure it out or my computer will calm down or whatever.

238. The Mind of the Market

Comment #114140 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 12:36 pm

It is not that hard to find fualt w the present situation to some extent or another based on the free market. I hve always thought tho that hands down it baets the only alternative- some sort of demand economy- centralized control. So I see this 'parecon' thing and think onather alternative I am unaware of. Great and I go to the site and what do I see. maybe I am missing something but all I saw was demand economy centraly controled by a comitee - a commite initialy compossed of people from an economecly diverse group of members but how long would it take a worker put on a manegment comitee to become manegment or whatever. how is this signifigantly different from Stalin who also came from the working class..

239. The Mind of the Market

Comment #114139 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 12:36 pm

It is not that hard to find fualt w the present situation to some extent or another based on the free market. I hve always thought tho that hands down it baets the only alternative- some sort of demand economy- centralized control. So I see this 'parecon' thing and think onather alternative I am unaware of. Great and I go to the site and what do I see. maybe I am missing something but all I saw was demand economy centraly controled by a comitee - a commite initialy compossed of people from an economecly diverse group of members but how long would it take a worker put on a manegment comitee to become manegment or whatever. how is this signifigantly different from Stalin who also came from the working class..

240. The devilish church practice of exorcism

Comment #114114 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 11:42 am

oops

241. The devilish church practice of exorcism

Comment #114112 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 11:40 am

I think that besides being resposible for all the listed misfortunes of her family that it is about just as likely that her possesion by a demon is also resposible for global warming, the Palistinian homeland problem,the lack of the proper amount of respect I am getting at work, and any number of other problems. God, I am glad all that has been delt w/ in a reasonable manner and we can all go on w our lives now not having to deal w any of those issues.

242. The devilish church practice of exorcism

Comment #114111 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 11:40 am

I think that besides being resposible for all the listed misfortunes of her family that it is about just as likely that her possesion by a demon is also resposible for global warming, the Palistinian homeland problem,the lack of the proper amount of respect I am getting at work, and any number of other problems. God, I am glad all that has been delt w/ in a reasonable manner and we can all go on w our lives now not having to deal w any of those issues.

243. The devilish church practice of exorcism

Comment #114110 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 11:39 am

I think that besides being resposible for all the listed misfortunes of her family that it is about just as likely that her possesion by a demon is also resposible for global warming, the Palistinian homeland problem,the lack of the proper amount of respect I am getting at work, and any number of other problems. God, I am glad all that has been delt w/ in a reasonable manner and we can all go on w our lives now not having to deal w any of those issues.

244. The devilish church practice of exorcism

Comment #114109 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 11:39 am

I think that besides being resposible for all the listed misfortunes of her family that it is about just as likely that her possesion by a demon is also resposible for global warming, the Palistinian homeland problem,the lack of the proper amount of respect I am getting at work, and any number of other problems. God, I am glad all that has been delt w/ in a reasonable manner and we can all go on w our lives now not having to deal w any of those issues.

245. The devilish church practice of exorcism

Comment #114108 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 11:39 am

I think that besides being resposible for all the listed misfortunes of her family that it is about just as likely that her possesion by a demon is also resposible for global warming, the Palistinian homeland problem,the lack of the proper amount of respect I am getting at work, and any number of other problems. God, I am glad all that has been delt w/ in a reasonable manner and we can all go on w our lives now not having to deal w any of those issues.

246. Mandrake: Charles's letter in support of Islamic 'fundamentalism'

Comment #114087 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 10:53 am

My response is to ak this question. How the fuck does Charles go from 1. tabliods being a problem and 2. what ever other valid points he may or may not have to his conclusion that it is at all proper or necesary to suport Muslim fundmentalism.

247. Stop revisionist Christian nation House Resolution 888

Comment #114001 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 7:37 am

Off subject somewhat but but in WW2 the allies air campaign caused at least about as much sufferig as meted out by the Germans on us (not including the eastern front) and by the Rusians on the Germans on their march towards Berlin, yet we vilify both and pat ourselves on the back for a job well done. And again let me repreat that I am not claiming to have any overall answer to the question of what is to be done given that one finds oneself in a fucked up siuation like that.

248. Stop revisionist Christian nation House Resolution 888

Comment #113996 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 7:26 am

On the issue of 'moral distancing principal', aren't you failing to distinguish between actual physical distance and the metaphorical distance btwn the ins and the outs. Or at least bring the two issues way closser than they realy should be. Also I realize that that is a view accepted rather readily but I belive Sams position was to question the rightousness of that view.

249. Stop revisionist Christian nation House Resolution 888

Comment #113984 by babrock on January 21, 2008 at 6:22 am

Sam,in "End of faith",I think, asks where we get off feeling rightous for not tortering our enemys when we have routinly bombed entire neiborhoods, causing pain and destruction orders of magnitude greater. How does the distance from the victim make the bringer of harm less guilty. Not that I am saying at all that I have any at all usefull answer to the dilema other than that conflict is bad.Duh.

250. King Me!

Comment #113482 by babrock on January 19, 2008 at 5:38 pm

" depresingly cruel joke". That just reminded me of something that I was watching earlyer that is filed in the comedy section about suicide killers on the Daily Show w/ some French film director that was seriously not funny.