Comments by al-rawandi

Comment #257198 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 7:38 am

SharonMcT,

Oh you are so brave, standing up to the big bad bully....

You, like the rest of those attacking Fanusi, are a thug. Cute words like "motivations" don't disguise your attitude very well. You don't like what he has to say, yet you are intellectucally ill equipped to deal with it, so forget arguing with him, find him guilty of some other thought crime, then attempt to shun him.

I am glad you find it "amusing". Which of course you don't but by pretending it is funny you figure to score cheap points. More nonsense.

Steve Zara,

It is troubling that you were so hard on fanusi over "thought crime" (punishing or banning people for what they think). Now you are doing just that. He may think these things, so you say use the "troll" button or "offensive".

How is it different if Fanusi secretly harbors racist views (which you cannot prove) and if a Muslim secretly supports Shariah?

I am slightly alarmed.

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Comment #257190 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 7:31 am

Decius,

What? You know damn well what happened here. Fanusi was strung up for merely being in the same vicinity of some ass holes.

Of course you tried to with-hold on that, but in the end you went the route of the hysterical crowd. So if you can show me I am wrong, please do, but the name calling won't do. Sorry.

Please show where Fanusi was a racist, or where he was wrong. People don't like what he has to say so they try to paint him a racist. Well fuck that nonsense.

Cold Fusion Lazarus,

I got very little against Jews (not that I know of ... at least not until someone discovers the anti-semite site I used to post to).

A common retort for anti-semites is "Well I know a couple Jews." Or LF's "I play in a band with Jews".

But do you think maybe it was a mistake to grant the Jews a homeland "right there". I know there was a desire to give those poor bastards a homeland, but it actually wasn't that sensible to give a dispersed race some land near to where they lost out many years ago.

Why? The majority of what is Israel was land sold privately by Arab landowners to Jews (the Jewish national fund). The land was stateless, there had never ever been a Palestinian "state" or "nation".

Let's review,

The Ottomans lost a war, Britain administered the territory whent the Caliphate collapsed. It allowed Jews to settle there. The Jews began purchasing land from the Arabs. The World voted to create a state for the Jews there, and the balance of the land to be administered by the Jordanians. The Jews created a state, the Jordanians used the land to attempt to destroy this state. Israel won the war, which the Arabs started, and took more stateless land to guarantee security.

Israel would have been attacked almost anywhere in the world. At least it is surrounded by bungling incompetents now so that it won't be destroyed.

Titania,

Al, fascist wasn't the right word. I was in a hurry. The correct word would be dictatorial. You do frequently tell people to fuck off and go away when you disagree with them.

It is not your website

Nor is it yours. But now you have people wound up demanding Fanusi be shunned.

Congratulations Constable of the Thought Police, you have successfully protected us from variegated ideas. You place in SugarCandy Mountain is assured.

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Comment #257183 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 7:15 am

SharonMcT,

No one wants to protect you from those views, but I think the motivation is to prevent some of his extreme views from becoming accepted in the mainstream

It is censorious nonsense.

Titania initiated a hack and slash on Fanusi. You are no more aware of his motivations than you were before. He has not been quoted as saying anything racist, yet he has been tried, convicted, and executed by the peanut gallery here, deceitfully passing themselves off as rationalists.

It is shameful.

Brainsys,

Ah, now you see how the atheist crowd functions as a religious group, some dogma is acceptable, other opinions should be suppressed. Just look at the emotive nonsense that went into it. Laurie said he needed to give Fanusi a "vitriolic wake up call".

Revolting.

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Comment #257174 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 7:00 am

Decius, Peace,

I once quote mined Quetz on a sexual discussion. Internet gold.

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Comment #257173 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 6:58 am

Laurie,

3. A notable exception the Shin Bet polices these groups. When an extremist Jewish group planted bombs under the cars of three Palestinian mayors, the Shin Bet informed the third mayor and an IDF sapper was blinded trying to disarm the bomb.

There is a notable moral difference between a group that celebrates the indiscriminate slaughter of Jews, which proposes genocide, which demands Shariah, and a group that is a democracy and actively polices violent groups.

Another functional difference, Israel suspended Meir Kahane form the Knesset for advocating the expulsion of Arabs from Israel and the W.Bank. The Palestinians elected Hamas which demands the expulsion of European Jews from the land of Israel (Palestine).

There is NO equanimity here.

4. I respect your attempt a pacifism, but that only works so long as your adversary is inclined to peace. I have many Quaker friends and we discuss this a lot.

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Comment #257160 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 6:24 am

Laurie,

I wouldn't be completely unconcerned Laurie. Your equivocations of Israel to genocidal movements of Islamofascism is a perilous road. My personal opinion is that you are wrapped up in socialist interpretations and that you view these groups as anti-colnialist (something which is easily dispelled) and more precisely that Israel is a Boureois outpost in the Middle East.

As for Fanusi, your sanctimonious scoldings of him, all the while traveling similarly treacherous terrain, are perturbing. The self righteousness of the attack is something which irked me extensively. I agree that his presence there is worrisome, but this is irrelevant (totally) to what he says here. Even if he maintains two different faces (which he doesn't) that would have no bearing on the logical value of his arguments here, which, aside from the policy solutions, are pretty good.

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Comment #257150 by al-rawandi on September 30, 2008 at 5:53 am

Mitchell,

Laurie Fraser, it was clear to me that Al was merely trying to pick someone out and wage bullshit accusations towards them because that is what he saw happening to Fanusi. I thought that Al clearly meant everyone to notice that his accusations were bullshit, so he could teach you'all a lesson.

Thank you. I wasn't being serious, I was saying that one can make fantastic claims based on scant evidence.

Laurie,

I clearly DON'T think you are an anti-semite. But I needed an absurd target for an ad hominem strike to show that what happened to Fanusi was a bit extreme.

As I said, the term "anti-Semitism" has virtually no real world value, save in a rare circumstance. Just like "racist" has little value, a term leveled at Fanusi.

I will go back and delete the posts if you want, but that isn't my habit.

*EDIT*

It was also convenient since you led the anti-Fanusi charge. I wanted to give you a dose of your own vitriolic medicine. Now imagine EVERYONE on this site was doing that to you.

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Comment #256837 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 3:04 pm

ColdFusionLazarus,

Well whatever. It is pretty obviously anti-semitism. Why else would one pick out a country of so few people who have killed so few people (in self defense) for such vicious condemnation... why select a Jewish state for such criticism when you have China, Sudan, Mauritania, Iran, Congo, who are leaps and bounds worse? Why do 5 million Jews take up 80% of one's criticisms? Why is that?

The answer is simple.... anti-semitism. Even if it is subconscious, it is still anti-semitism. There is no comparison between attempting to carry out genocide, and trying to prevent genocide. It seems Israel was one of only a few voices of protest about Darfur initially.

As for Hamas, they cite the Protocols in their charter... funny this has nothing to do with israel and everything to do with Jews. Not to mention they have their roots in the Muslim Brotherhood, which is pro-Shariah... prior to Israel's creation.

There is only one answer to Laruie's strong rhetoric against Israel, especially combined with his defeaning silence elsewhere. He disdains Jews.

How else do you explain this?

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Comment #256824 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm

Thanks, the issue is now clear to my full satisfaction

Not so uncommon moral smugness.

What is that smell?

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Comment #256816 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 2:39 pm

CFL,

The minute Laurie vists a pro-Hamas website and starts telling us about the sub-human Jews and Kaffirs, then Laurie will be told to Fuck Right Off!

Fanusi never said any such things. Other people did. This is a disengenuous comparison.

But all I can see is that he might not despise those groups quite as much as you do.

Hmmmm. Actually it sounds like he is trying to equivocate a civil Jewish state with genocidal fascist-Muslim organizations who target small children for bombs containing nails and rat poison.

That, my friend, is anti-semitism. The evil Jews.

But I let it slide most days because I view it as a mental disorder.

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Comment #256810 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 2:28 pm

Diacanu,

*Shrug* I'm not with Harris on the new-age Buddhist stuff.

Srsly. Hokus Pokus bull shit if you ask me.

Decius,

What do you want? I posted the relevant comments, he has said there is no functional difference between those advocating genocide and actively attempting to carry it out, and those trying to prevent it.

Speak to him all you want. I doubt you will receive an answer. He did say to me that Israel was this horrible evil monster (no doubt complete with hooked nose and bags of money) and then said he didn't have the inclination to discuss it further.

I would further ask it be considered that he is an anti-semite.

That's all.

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Comment #256801 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 2:18 pm

CFL,

Ohhhhhhhhh yes indeedy!

Check out Laurie Fraser's equivocations about genocidal fascist supremacist groups Hezbollah, Hamas, and al-Qaeda.

He said they are basically the same as the US, Britain, and Israel.... you know.... women deserve to be raped and all that.

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Comment #256796 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 2:14 pm

ColFusionLazarus,

Interesting. I will be awaiting for your condemnations of local moral perverts as well.

I appreciate your candor and I look forward to your future uniform application of these principles.

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Comment #256782 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 pm

Decius,

You have failed to answer me! Laurie didn't condemn LGS' praise for Hezbollah. Doesn't that render him guilty?

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Comment #256774 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 1:54 pm

Diacanu,

No. He thanked people who offered their prayers for his injured father.

I would do the same, it is the sentiment that matters, don't you think?

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Comment #256757 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Decius,

as much as I may disagree with Laurie, there, I see no direct support of supremacist or genocidal ideas.

When LastGreekStanding issued his statments in admiration of Hezbollah, Laurie did NOT condemn him. Why not? Why didn't Laurie condemn this praise, especially after I told LGS that Hezbollah stated that Jews spread AIDS.

Without a condemnation, and since Laurie frequents this site where LGS posts, I can only assume Laurie ALSO supports Hezbollah. If not he would certainly have condemened such a statment. Right? Same logic for Fanusi. What's the difference?

Steve,

That is precisely the mindless targeting of groups we have been complaining of. Because some gay men are offensive twits, to suggest, even jokingly, that others should have their rights restricted because of this is appalling.

I certainly can see your point here.

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Comment #256750 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 1:19 pm

Goat Boy,

Fox News: there are a number of nice little video clips on youtube of some of the more attractive female presenters crossing their legs while wearing short short skirts ... search for Fox News upskirt .. just saying ..

I like how you operate.

Ever seen "Out Foxed"? Great movie on Fox News.

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Comment #256749 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Decius,

LF Said:

971. Comment #242986 by Laurie Fraser on September 4, 2008 at 11:44 pm

Whatever crimes muslim jihadists have committed, they don't come near the crimes of Israel against Palestine.

Let's see here, 903 Muslims killed by Muslims this Ramadan. How many Palestinians by Israel?

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Comment #252404 by Laurie Fraser on September 23, 2008 at 3:47 am

The record of the fundamentalist-inspired denizens of the lunatic United States right outstrips the evils of islamic fanaticism by a country mile.

70 Million inhabitants of the subcontinent murdered by the expansion of Islam. A country mile runs in reverse?

The condemnations aren't hard to target.

And remember, I don't have to prove Laurie said anything, just that he didn't condemn those that did say something unpleasant in his presence... It is guilt by association remember. Laurie is a socialist, so where most of the most prolific murderers of the 20th Century. Close enough, right?

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Comment #256731 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Steve,

It perturbs me that he is most vociferous in his discussion of gay rights in the Muslim world, which seems at odds with the statement you linked. It does make me wonder if it is a subterfuge for a general attack on Muslims, that is motivated by something other than ideas.

I appreciate your position Steve, I really do. But I want to be convinced, we must wait for Fanusi to weigh in again.

Decius,

Oh come off it. I am specific about what I disdain.

I am simply going to demand that Laurie Fraser be condemned with equal vigor for his equivocations about groups advocating genocide. He says they need a place at the tabel, even when they advocate not only a destruction of a civilized country, but an entire people.

Where is YOUR condemnation? It seems like you call bullshit on the rightists (which I do as well) while looking the other way when a fellow "humanist" breaks wind and issues equivocation for fascist-racist organizations.

I am willing, when the evidence is in, to condemn Fanusi as a racist. I am awaiting that evidence and a defense from Fanusi. I will also apply those standards to anyone here, will you do the same?

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Comment #256725 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 12:36 pm

H4D,

I prefer Fanusi to Hamas and Hezbollah apologists any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

There is a problem here, Fanusi corresponded with someone who advocated genocide, while a local character has festooned our board with equivocations for a group that actively attempts to carry out genocide.

Why only ONE condemnation. Huh? Why the hypocrisy. I have sat by far too long and listened to the malodorous moral equivocations that go on here, self hating condemnations of civil societies and free passes handed to barbarians. Enough is enough, if we want to condemn Fanusi, that is fine, I don't always agree with him (I prefer Steve's solutions to the problems we discussed), but let's spread that moral outrage around where it belongs.

A spade is a spade. You want to play, we can play.

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Comment #256722 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Steve,

Although this isn't an explicit endoresment, it does look pretty damning to me, as someone who supports the rights of homosexuals to pursue a life of equality.

Now, I would be eager to hear Fanusi's response, because there could be an explanation I might understand and accept. Also there might not be.

H4D,

This is not about loyalty to Fanusi, not at all. It is about the hatefest against him. The emotional firebrands declaring their disdain for Fanusi and for their cessation of correspondence.

This is about loyalty to a method of determining whether someone is something which people say. And whether these things have ANY bearing on what he is saying here.

Even if EVERYTHING that people have smeared him with is true, what does that have to do with his analysis of the problem? What is wrong with his understanding of a problem.

The good news is, I have uncovered Laurie Fraser as a man who is such an unbelieveable hypocrite, one who says negotiate with groups like Hamas and Hezbollah who support genocide, while saying nicedoggie.com precludes negotiation. It is THESE liberals that bother me, those so ridden with guilt that they wish they were never born. Those that apologize for awful groups while condemning those that combat them. It is these same socialists (talk about guilt by association... Castro, Chavez, Mao, Stalin) who engage in moral grandstanding, all the while downplaying truly fascist groups.

I really can't stand this sort of perversion. Sexual perversions don't interest me much, but perversions of this nature repel me. I just hope I can stay upwind from this horde of hypocrites.

Ohhh and I am a liberal by every definition of the word. And as for liberals fighting and dying, that was how it went. Kennedy and others who were simply heroes.... well where are they now?

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Comment #256716 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 12:11 pm

Steve,

I don't think that stating that one's support for a politician like Palin is partly because of her anti- stance on gay marriage on one site and then stating on this site that one supports gay rights and would probably vote for gay marriage is a sign of integrity.

Did he actually do this, and if so, can you provide a link? Or a repost?

As you know I respect you a great deal, so when you say something is so I tend to take interest.

decius,

Accusations of racism. Why? Did fanusi say something racist? Accusations of fascism, why? Did Fanusi say something fascist?

You are going to have to show something better than guilt by association. And since no one has, I can only assume there are ulterior motives, because no rational person would make such an accusation and be short on evidence in such an apalling fashion.

So please show me where Fanusi said something objectionable.

Thanks.

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Comment #256695 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 11:20 am

H4D,

I read through all of Fanusi's comments linked by titania. Nothing there suggests he agrees with the awful comments by others. I need that to be demonstrated. Fanusi simply being there is not enough, I am afraid.

People don't like Fanusi's message, it upsets their nice liberal notions of tolerance (which Muslims won't reciprocate). So instead of reevaluate that, they dig and dig until they find some reason to hand wave Fanusi.

I will list a set of terms, guess what they have in common:

1) Racist
2) Anti-semite
3) Islamophobe

Answer, they are all nebulous and designed to supress criticism of some cherished thing. They are devices for hand waving. They are all but meaningless.

So I get suspicious when the lefties here fire those out with such speed to preserve their failed notions.

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Comment #256674 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 10:25 am

Fanusi,

I am composing a PM.

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Comment #256669 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 10:09 am

Laurie,

Do I hate Hamas and Hezbollah? Only as much as I hate the Israeli government, or the U.S. government, or the Australian Liberal Party.

Wow, you are ass backwards then. How is a group calling for the genocide of an entire people (Hezbollah) the same as one that doesn't (Israel). Funny the way you draw an equivalency here, it is telling of course.

This does not want me to see any or all of those groups extinguished.

You are on record as saying you don't want Hamas, HEzbollah, or al-Qaeda extinguished. Despite their calls for genocide. NOTED!

Reason is the answer

Hahahhaah ROTFL. Yeah Hamas and Hezbollah and al-Qaeda are real BIG on reason. Hahahaha talk yourself blue in the face with them. You are quite a funny man.

we will only get people of various factions to agree if we provide the opportunities for negotiation to occur.

How do negotiations take place when one side calls for the destruction and genocide of the other. You really are living in a fantasy world.

While we have sites like "nicedoggies" around (and, Al, I can't believe you would, for one moment, support the infantile crap that is on that site),

Some I do, some I don't. This is more of your blanketing which is totally useless. I support the anti-genocide comments, but I certainly reject the evil Jedi stuff.

While we have sites like "nicedoggies" around the possibility of negotiation is limited.

You think that negotiations are limited because of nicedoggie, but not because of Hezbollah or Hamas? Are you serious? What planet do you live on? You must be kidding of course, you have to be.

That is scary Laurie truly scary. Hitchens once spoke of western whites who wished they had never been born....

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Comment #256646 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:50 am

Titania,

The site was so much more non-fascist when you weren't around with your fuck off comments in response to everyone who disagrees with you.

Now I am a fascist?

You really don't know when to quit. How am I a fascist, do tell, I am eager to know.

I am telling you to fuck off because you haven't demonstrated your claim about Fanusi. So far you have some flimsy notion that Fanusi posts on a site that also contains posts from some assholes.

Again post ONE racist statement from Faunsi....

oh... and a fascist one from me if you would.

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Comment #256638 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:47 am

Well I am convinced,

Fanusi is a sith lord bent on making the dark side of the force dominant.

*looks for light sabre*

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Comment #256629 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:39 am

Laurie,

Go back to your little militants and play with your toy guns, espouse hatred, and jack off to the tunes of "Tomorrow Belongs to Me". I'm over you, you cretin.

Defending Hamas again are you? :-)

Anyhow, I hate Hamas and Hezbollah as well. Who rushed to their defence? Socialists, Marxists (Aren't you a socialist?). Hezbollah said Jews spread AIDS in the mid east. Nasrallah said he would like all Jews to come to Israel so they can be more easily exterminated. Hamas claims the facticity of the Protocols in its charter whilst calling for the destruction of Israel.

What is wrong with animus to these notions? These are things worthy of contempt.

Save your moral reprobations for when it counts.

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Comment #256627 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:34 am

Titania,

The point is, do you have to condemn every unsavory idiot in order not to be considered of the same cloth?

Simply because someone espouses and awful doctrine here, doesn't mean that an absence of commentary from me means that I agree.

Your assault is fundamentally illogical. Fanusi has said NOTHING that denotes his agreement with even word ONE espoused by those ass holes. And you haven't shown any evidence to say so. You don't like Fanusi, and you don't like his ideas. You had an emotional reaction to Fanusi, and can't find the facts to back up what you say, so you turn to a guilt by association assault, which praised by your fellow commissars, is actually really pathetic.

I once shook hands with Sami Al-Arian, a man who contributed money to Islamic Jihad, I guess I am a terrorist?

Your argument is flimsy and sad. Show me where Fanusi said something to agree with even ONE of the fascistic statements. Even if Fanusi AGREES with them, it is irrelevant to his comments on Islam or Jihad. I can tell you he brings more erudition on Islam than all the whiny posts you have compsed over the weeks.

I think this peeves you quite a bit.

Again, evidence Fanusi agrees, or a retraction. NOW.

Until then, fuck off...

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Comment #256616 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:24 am

Laurie,

You have advocated Socialism, let's look at Socialism.... pure unadulterated evil. You must, therefore, be evil. Spare us your moral reprobations.

and if Fanusi is not at least a willing collaborator, then what and who is?

Guilt by association. Truly fascist.

what I see is a soul so completely lost in his hatred that his reason has been turned towards a program of extinction of the enemy.

What post exactly told you all of this.

More utter shite.

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Comment #256599 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:15 am

Titania,

What evidence, you posted nothing of value.

What did Fanusi say that was objectionable? His mere presence is not enough to indict him.

You may not remember ASMarques, a Holocaust denier posting here. I suggest you go and land your condemnations near his post, lest some other witch hunt find you guilty for simulatneous presence.

Disgusting.

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Comment #256592 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:11 am

Well,

I am rather saddened by some of the latest antics from so called 'rationalists'.

It seems that atheists in general and specifically on this site have turned to blind faith in certain ideas, which, like religion, make them feel good, but have no basis in reality.

It is sad to see the devolution of what was once more or less a clear thinking oasis to a hungry mob of commissars seeking to lynch a contributor for his mere presence on a another site which the members of this Orwellian mob find objectionable. Fanusi has personally sent me copies of his objections to the statements of people on this site so disdained by the judgemental horde now on the war path.

I am thoroughly disgusted with this crap here. I am glad that atheist is only the designation of adsence, because if it denoted the presence of any intrinsic values, I would be reconsidering my position.

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Comment #256585 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 9:00 am

Titania,

The site is rather right wing for me.

So?

You are wasting our time. Your emotive crap is really shameful. Sad, just sad.

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Comment #256577 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 8:49 am

Steve,

If people don't want their views to be read in the future, they should not post. If you want relative privacy, don't post, or use e-mail and hope

I am feeling that pain.

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Comment #256575 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 8:44 am

Titania,

Post the evidence of Fanusi's racism or kindly fuck off. Your insinuations and dishonest dodging is awful. I read your links, I didn't see one thing objectionable there. Now if you have some evidendce please post it.

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Comment #256557 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 8:28 am

Steve,

I think your personal feelings are coloring things here.

All,

Someone needs to post one comment by Fanusi, here on this board, that is explicitly racist. Until then I will consider this all a bunch of nonsense and hand waving. Please show ME where he supported some racist person or policy.

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Comment #256530 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 8:00 am

Sciros,

I second that. That is cheap nonsense.

I just got done saying Ramadan Kareem to a Muslim friend, I guess I am a shit bag too!

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Comment #256528 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 7:56 am

Titania,

Here is one thing Fanusi said on the other site:

I've heard some nasty things about some of the speakers at the event, such as Haider and Le Pen. But we've got Jews afraid, yes afraid to show their faith in Berlin. Again. Who's willing to say: No, not with us, not this time, not if we have breath left to spend?

I second that. It is time to stand up to thugs.

Here is something else he said:

Well, there's a difference between supporting Milosevic's antics (which I don't) and saying that we had a moral obligation to stop him (which we didn't).

Sorry, I care much more about the Christians of the Sudan and Ethiopia and elsewhere. That should have been the priority.

I disagree, but only because I have a lot of sympathy for Bosnians.

Fanusi said this too:

KaptainLeutnant, sorry but no. Total extermination of populations is never justified.

I agree. What is the problem?

I don't see anything racist in Fanusi's views.

You are going to have to do better, a lot better.

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Comment #256511 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 7:41 am

Mitchell,

Well said, well said.

You are right. But I would also say, hate for Muslims does not make one's statements about Islam false. If someone says "Islamic terrorism is a threat" and "Muslims are filthy diseased animals" only one of those is a problem for me.

Saying someone is a racist is only slightly instructive, it is a bit of mud commonly thrown by the leftist elements to suppress criticism. I will have to read further on Fanusi's site.

I think the real issue, is that Fanusi once said he goes to these right wing sites to criticize the right wingers, this appears to be untrue, he goes to praise them and agree with them. This means he has lied to me, which further means I have to take his comments with a hand full of salt.

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Comment #256501 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 7:25 am

Titania,

How do you know what he really thinks. He is a name on a board. What do his ideas here say? Do you disagree, if so how?

I will read through the other site when I get a chance.

I HAVE caught the subtexts, and I have disagreed to a GREAT degree with him on his solutions. I think the problem is quite obvious and others agree with Fanusi there. Steve and I both agree that suspension of civil rights is no answer to the problems we agree exist. Fanusi's solutions are anything but, and I have made that clear, but I think he identifies a general problem, although the specifics can be blurry, and I think we all agree with him there.

So if he is a racist, that is too bad because racism has little real world value. But the statements should be analyzed for their logical value.

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Comment #256491 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 7:14 am

Titania,

Good research.

Let's say Fanusi is the biggest most disgusting racist in the world.

How does that affect the truth of his statements here? You will have to do more than attack the man to show me why he is wrong.

All,

Shame on you for falling for the ad hom on fanusi. Judge his ideas based on that alone. Rationalism, it applies to those you don't like as well.

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Comment #256440 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 6:26 am

Steve,

No I get it now. I didn't realize by blunder.

I love the LOLcats.

293. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256433 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 6:16 am

Steve,

What is so funny?

Garsh!

294. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256428 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 6:10 am

Steve,

Ahhh there you are. I am going to compose a PM for you shortly, I have a dilemna that requires your intellectual touch!

kthxbai.

295. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256423 by al-rawandi on September 29, 2008 at 6:02 am

Fanusi,

Boy, you really "gayed" up this thread didn't you?

*ducks*

296. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #249860 by al-rawandi on September 18, 2008 at 3:19 pm

Diacanu,

You are my virtual friend. Always welcome in CA.

Brandy,

For Chrissakes go away.

297. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #249836 by al-rawandi on September 18, 2008 at 2:55 pm

BS,

Al, now you are exposed as a fascist sympathizer and defender. It was you, AL, who had no problems with the following statement: "The most plausible way out I can see....is a degeneration into fascism."

Yet another lie. I said I can understand how Fanusi gets there. I can see it as a possibility. I don't consider it fact. I think there are still other avenues.

You are a disgusting worm. Maybe it is mental illness, I don't know.

298. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #249828 by al-rawandi on September 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm

BS,

So now you are exposed as a liar and you change the topic.

You are really a sad piece of pond scum.

Be gone TROLL!

*waves Harry Potter novelty wand*