301. Darwinists for Jesus

Comment #195963 by Border Collie on June 19, 2008 at 6:07 am

What on Earth was that last anecdote about?! ... The typical inability to separate sex and guilt?! I really wish writers wouldn't throw that "from left field" stuff in. Creepy ... Anyway, I was where this guy was for a long time. Still am to a small degree. However, it seems to be another attempt to absorb evo into the dominant paradigm/mythos of the culture. Has to be the other way around. The dominant paradigm/mythos has to keep up with science. Otherwise it (p/m) loses its relevance. Can't overlook the fact that evo is a completely new(er) thing which can't go backwards. Get a bigger god/view of life. Don't try to make evo fit your small god/view of life.

302. Charles Darwin: 'Is man an ape or an angel?'

Comment #195538 by Border Collie on June 18, 2008 at 12:31 pm

glenister_m ... good point ...

My response to "unbelievers & un-understanders" is usually ... "Come back after you've read Origin two or three times and we can talk."

303. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #194711 by Border Collie on June 17, 2008 at 7:52 am

You know, if he converts it will cause an enormous amount of cognitive dissonance with the protestant fundies (like my parents and TWP's grand daddy) who have supported him all these many years. These protestant fundies love Bush, but hate Catholics. Maybe their brains will explode. So, if you guys see a Texas shaped mushroom cloud, you'll know what happened.

304. Rapture site sends unbelievers their last chance ... via email

Comment #194681 by Border Collie on June 17, 2008 at 7:28 am

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Actually, sounds like a pretty good cash flow generator to me.

305. Physicists in Congress Calculate Their Influence

Comment #194392 by Border Collie on June 16, 2008 at 5:31 pm

Mr. Holt said, "Proximity counts."
Damn, I love it, give that boy an A in English (and for having a brain)"!!! I mean it!
I didn't know there was anyone remaining in the English speaking world who doesn't say "close proximity" ...
Now, I'm gonna go an ultimate distance and get a hamburger.

306. Vatican bans Dan Brown film Angels & Demons from Rome churches

Comment #193959 by Border Collie on June 16, 2008 at 8:44 am

Dan, Dan, Dan, shame on you! You should know better than to write a book bringing the feminine principle into the largest, most jaded conclave of pedophiles on the planet. Run, Forrest, run!

307. George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism

Comment #193954 by Border Collie on June 16, 2008 at 8:38 am

Just gets weirder every day. Maybe GWB is vying for King of the Earth or something like that. I mean, hey, The Pope, Bush & Blair ... the father, the son and the holy spirit. Makes me want to run screaming up to the New Mexico border and not come back to Texas for awhile. TWP ... you're absolutely correct ... I took the eastern route out of this brand of Christianity. I'm not saying that Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. don't have their "fundamentalists", they do, but overall, they're more simply an approach to life, a philosophy, not so much a fingernail-on-the-chalkboard religion. It's a long crooked path out of the general stupidity of religion.

308. Scientists confirm that parts of earliest genetic material may have come from the stars

Comment #193440 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 3:47 pm

Imagine that ... life came from stuff in the universe ... no, seriously, fascinating ...

309. Stephen Hawking: ministers' £80m error puts science at risk

Comment #193438 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 3:43 pm

Just another way to undermine science ... mistake or not.

310. Only a Theory

Comment #193433 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 3:29 pm

OK, let's "teach the controversy" in every subject. How 'bout math and reading. I assert that Dick, Jane, Spot & Puff equal four entities. Now, surely, there is someone out there to challenge this assertion. I mean, maybe the rest of us have missed something. What has happened to the NPR announcers & interviewers? I thought NPR was aimed at intelligent people.

311. Breaking the Silence

Comment #193373 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 1:22 pm

I saw a small piece of one of her video battles with that moronic cleric ... nothing better than listening to one intelligent pissed-off woman go toe-to-toe with a religious cave man!

312. Divine Impulses: Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #193368 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 1:13 pm

What's the "purpose" of female "circumscision"? In three words ... control of women ...

313. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #193299 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 8:22 am

OK, all together now, let's hold our collective breath until all the religions of the world come to understand, empathize and get along with each other.

314. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #193298 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 8:19 am

The good thing about articles like this is that I get to LMAO at the posts on a Sunday morning instead of lobbing moist cow chips at the church across the street. Oh, yea, let's have MORE religion! Damn. Just like the alcoholic thinks that MORE alcohol is going to solve his problems. Sing along now ... Drop kick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life ......

315. As the world becomes smaller, the need to understand each other's faith grows

Comment #193293 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 8:09 am

Hey, Tony, how about Reasonism?

316. Behe's Empty Box

Comment #193288 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 7:59 am

Unfortunately, it's important to keep up with the Behe's of the world because their brand of tripe is the only education that much of the US receives. In a country where the school systems have gone to hell, many people get most or all of their "education" from church, religious schools, TV, tabloids, etc. which is to say, no education at all. Yippie ki yo ...

317. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #193279 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 7:09 am

Let's not get caught up in the minutia (stated goals, stated beliefs, etc.) of YECs, creationists, ID'ers, etc. I know what they want. I was raised with them, I live/work with them every day. Their goal is to get a crowbar of some sort into the school system, the political system, the whatever system and then really go to work. They see it all as part of the "great commission" ... to save the world. Their processes might be more sophisticated, but their goal is the same. And, it's not just Darwin they'll be after. It will be any and all reason. I hear it everyday. Even though Evo is the "hot topic", they take issue with math, English, literature, music, astronomy, physics, geology, anything and everything that doesn't fit their little world view. And, although we generally don't hear about it as much, they're working constantly in all of those other fields, always trying to change things to fit the fundie view. So, anyway, it's not just Evo/Darwin that's at risk here.

318. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #193276 by Border Collie on June 15, 2008 at 6:35 am

I don't remember that evolution was such a hot topic when I was a kid doing the fundie Baptist, YEC thing in a rural Texas church. It seems to have gotten much worse in recent years. Religion getting even more mixed up with money/politics caused that, I guess. At that time, Evolution, Darwin, Jews, Catholics, Communists, Atheists, Methodists, Church of Christ'ers and assorted "not saved others" were either taboo subjects or all were going straight to hell ... simple as that. No argument. Everyone believed it. I rather rubbed me the wrong way, though. I actually had some Church of Christ friends and they "seemed" like people to me. (That's another form of the abuse that RD talks about. So even if I'm/you're saved; my/your "other" friends aren't. So they won't be going to heaven with you. That sweet little blue-eyes country girl you have a crush on and your friend that you stand around and drink Grape sodas with will be suffering the torments of hell instead. When one is just a dumbass kid, that's a very hurtful thing to believe.) Then high school comes along and I hear about Evolution. I get a Time-Life book, Evolution. I read it. Makes perfect sense to me. I mean, really, when one is a country kid, it just isn't much of a jump from the everyday artificial selection involving cattle, pigs, sheep, dogs, chickens, etc. to natural selection. I still have friends who believe that if something is not mentioned in the Bible that it simply doesn't exist. I don't argue with them any longer. I don't try to convince them of anything. I'll just ask them, in a friendly way, something like (and this isn't exactly a scientific, logical or Darwinian question) "Are weiner dogs (or chihuahuas) mentioned in the Bible?" Then I just shut up and let them struggle with it. And, sorry, but, yes, the arguments and questions with the YECS and fundies have to be on a toddler or kindergarten type level ... in Texas anyway.

319. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #193126 by Border Collie on June 14, 2008 at 5:03 pm

I'm not a credentialed scientist. I read Origin, Descent & many others. Struggled through all of them more than once. They opened my mind. They made my view of this Earth, life, the universe, infinitely larger. Not once did I find Darwin appealing to divine intervention or RD's four no-no's. Furthermore, he was, to me, perfectly logical ... like the diamond bullet mentioned by Brando's character in "Apacolypse". It's a shame genetics wasn't really available to him. The ID'ers view of life is way too small. Their "God" is way too small. It seems as if they're stuck in the Lego/Lincoln Logs/Blocks stage of life ... can't see past construction, assembly ... silly, dangerous people.

320. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #192241 by Border Collie on June 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm

Like most of you, I have a high IQ. Who cares? God or no God isn't the point to me. My issue, if that's what you want to call it, is with religion as practiced by humans. However, it does seem to me that the smarter a person is the less they swallow "religious" bulls%$t. I would hope so.

321. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192230 by Border Collie on June 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm

If it's free speech, it's free speech. Doesn't matter. I think it was TWP ... Whack a mole. Suppress it here, it'll pop up there or it won't pop up and it'll blow up somewhere else. Here's the deal ... we were all taught at least some BS to a degree ... whatever. It is incumbent on each of us to become sane in the world, no matter what we were taught or indoctrinated with. It seems that most people on this forum have done so to whatever degree. The kids in this school have the same responsibility to the world ... to become sane in this world ... no matter what their books say or what their religious leaders tell them. Hey, ban the books, take the words out of the books ... they'll still be taught and indoctrinated with the BS elsewhere. Promote getting over it, promote sanity.

As always, I'm grateful to all of you guys for being my mentors. I'm honored.

322. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192156 by Border Collie on June 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Oh, boo f'ing hoo ... their "dignity, feelings and self-respect" ... what dignity? People with dignity don't do what M's do in the world today. No one with any feelings or self-respect would whine about what they're whining about. British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal ... whatever, sounds like a bunch of do-nothing, tax-payer-supported, self-righteous a*&holes to me. I'm offended every time I drive down the freeway, watch TV, listen to the radio or see a newspaper. Who cares? What do I do? Sue the world? Run crying to a tribunal? Waaa, waaa, waaa ... cry me a river.

So, all those counries forbid free speech and then forbid the display of Nazi stuff ... wow, notice anything? (Hey, the Nazis were evil, that's not my point.) Weren't the thought/word police big items in Nazi Germany or is my history incorrect?

France ... GET A F*&^%#G LIFE! God, don't you people have anything to do over there?! Oh, no, I'm sure a comment by no less than Brigitte Bardot is going to bring history to an end. Shut up, cook something. DAMN!!!!!!

"in an age where words have inspired mass murder and terrorism" What?! Words might "inspire" anything, but words do not jump out of mouths or jump off pages and murder people. Pathogenic people use words as excuses to murder people. Sing along ... The word is not the thing, the word is not the thing ... la, la, la ...

"laws banning hate speech seem to stem from a desire to promote societal harmony" ... ha, ha, ha. How about a desire to CONTROL society? I'd like to see proof of the the measure of "societal harmony" such promotes. I can guarantee you that the more you ban ANY speech the less harmony you will have.

If someone "offends" me or insults me, I just get in their face, if I feel like it. If I offend them, they can get in my face, if they feel like it. We can have a reasonable conversation and kiss and make up or not. I'll live, they'll live. I don't go whining to a tribunal. Waa, waa, Mr. Tribunal, somebody insulted me. I'm going to take my ball and go home. Crybaby a%$holes.

"Canada doesn't subscribe to a market place of ideas"? Damn, I learn something new every day. That is truly surprising. Why the hell don't they subscribe to such? Too few people working and paying taxes supporting too many do-nothings is my guess.

And we all know that Islam is a religion of peace. You can know this by watching the news. And the M's have never said that their goal is to destroy the West. We must have all be hallucinating! All you Islamophobes (sp?) should be ashamed of yourselves! I know that I am.

Last word on free speecch ... Being exposed to free speech is not pleasant much of the time. However, I despise the concept that some tax-payer supported bunch of do-nothing government idiots can decide to tell me what I can/cannot say. Because when you tell a person what they can/cannot say, you're also telling them what they can/cannot think. Morality cannot be legislated. No matter what some government jerk-off wants people to say/think or not say/think, people are going to say/think whatever they want. The more it's oppressed, the more it goes underground and the more venomous it gets. When it's in the open, it can disperse with the breeze, when it's suppressed it becomes more sharp, more poisonous, more dangerous.

Lastly, thank goodness for this forum! I never rate anyone's writings on this site. However, anyone can rate my stuff anyway you want. I don't care. What is "troll", "spam" and "offensive" anyway? Like a bunch of free thinkers give a s&%t.

323. Debating creationism in Louisiana schools

Comment #191758 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 3:51 pm

I was raised, by people like Gene Mills, in a fundamentalist Baptist "environment" in Texas. I simply cannot stand such people who are so smug and self-assured in their santimony. They always talk down to people with their little smirks on their faces. May I go on? Sorry for the venom, but I get emotional diarrhea when I listen to these creeps. They think that because they believe that God is on their side that they also can lie about their intentions and actions. I had to put up with their lies, duplicity, sanctimony and perversion until I was 17. I've not been to church since and don't miss it. He looks a lot like Warren Jeffs ... maybe he'll get caught with his britches down with a small child. I'm gonna go puke.

324. Analysis of SB 733: 'LA Science Education Act'

Comment #191749 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 3:33 pm

They already have academic freedom to teach ID/cretinism ... at Sunday School/Church ... what is their f'ing problem?!

I propose that a rider be attached to this bill requiring the cessation into perpetuity of the following in Louisiana: pickup drivin', crayfish eatin', mosquito slappin', football watchin', frog giggin', coon assin', pirotin', Tobasco eatin', shotgunnin', bass fishin', with-cousin procreatin', ad nauseum, etc. See if it passes then.

325. Court Claim: Chimps Are People, Too

Comment #191583 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 9:08 am

"chimpanzees that have outlived their usefulness" ... therein lies a/the problem ... When does a chimp outlive its usefulness? To whom? Who decides when a chimp is useful or not? For lack of a better term, isn't a chimp's life just as "sacred" as a human life? Yes, we humans absolutely need a change of attitude about the other life forms on this planet. I'm not sure that declaring a chimp to be human in a legalistic sense is the way to do it, however. But, whatever works ...

326. Regime change in heaven

Comment #191578 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 8:59 am

Silly, silly, silly ...

327. New British Petition: Stop the Nightmares

Comment #191574 by Border Collie on June 11, 2008 at 8:55 am

Hell exists. It exists in the actions, proclamations, threats and abuse of the hell-fire-and-damnation fundamentalists.

328. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190808 by Border Collie on June 9, 2008 at 3:44 pm

This guy can add to his resume ...

Extensive experience in beating dead horses.

329. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190802 by Border Collie on June 9, 2008 at 3:22 pm

I'm LMAO at your responses to this idiotic article ... Luckily, classicfm started playing Mozart's Requiem about the time I started reading the article; however, I did feel as if I was committing some sort of sacrilege by listening to Mozart and reading religiogarbage at the same time. The juxtaposition reminded me of an old Texas saying ... "... looked like turkey s&%t on yellow shoes." Still LMAO ...!!!

Has anyone ever done a study on how closely linked the idea of a "creator", as in omnipotent technologist, is with the advent of the industrial revolution and or other more primitive technologies? The YECs can't seem to get away from the "somebody had to make it" thing ...

Storms a comin' ... I'm going to look out into the back yard and see if a 747 gets assembled ... I HAVE seen hot dogs created in the back yard when the sun comes out ... but, they cool down when I let them in.

330. John McCain: America a Christian nation, needs Christian president

Comment #190247 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 4:00 pm

I'm voting for my dog.

331. Albinos, Long Shunned, Face Threat in Tanzania

Comment #190139 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:43 pm

So albinos join the ranks of rhino horn, tiger bone and bear gall bladder. I should have stayed in bed today.

332. Prayer to feed the hungry

Comment #190134 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Reminds me of an old joke:

Preacher stopped his car by the farmer's new, beautiful field of corn and said, "Farmer, it looks like you and God have done a really beautiful job this year and God is blessing you with a very good crop."

Farmer said, while wiping the sweat from his brow, "You should have seen it when God had it."

333. Couple charged in Norway over genital mutilation of daughters

Comment #190129 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Doesn't matter what religion it is or isn't. It's still pathological behavior. Probably Abrahamic, however, probably Muslim. Why PC pretend otherwise? Destroying or partially destroying a girls sexual identity is a good start on destroying her whole identity. Maybe someday the fear of female genitalia and females in general by primitives will cease. Hey, I know it's the whole snake in the garden with Eve issue (and probably some other archaic stuff). So what? It's just symbolism. It isn't real/literal. Let's outgrow it. Damn, leave the girls alone! I'd bet that if a few million penises were removed in certain parts of the world and eye or two would begin to open.

334. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190115 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 12:06 pm

mordacious1 ... None of the above ... Texan ... however, my ancestors are from the UK ... not enough time or distance to become a separate species yet, though ... maybe I'm mistaken, but were you referring to me sailing? ... can't be me ... I don't even have a boat or or an ocean ... I'm confused ... maybe I should just watch TV today ...

335. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190024 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 8:35 am

thewhitepearl ... sounds like we had/have some similar relatives ... strange how many brilliant (I'd think a geophysisist would be at least somewhat brilliant) people have or need a measure of fantasy in their lives ... many of my relatives had said similar outrageous things ... I used to argue with them. Now, I just stare at them and keep on eatin' my fried chicken ... Honk if you love Jesus ...

336. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #190023 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 8:26 am

I'm sooooo glad some of you are from Texas. I don't feel so alone any longer. I've been a square peg for so long, I'd given up. You guys have a great Sunday. I'm going to go do something religious ... like walk my border collie, ride my bicycle or practice katas or all of the above. And, you guys in the UK, please blow some cool air toward Texas.

337. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #190020 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 7:48 am

nancyjesse ... I'm glad you've been fortunate enough to not have any adverse actions against you. On the other hand, given the normal everyday rush hour blood and guts carnage in the Dallas area, the wackos probalby just don't have the time for the extra excitement of shooting at atheists ... given the predominance of sanctimonious types with shootin' irons over here in Cowtown, I think I'll just not put an atheist bumper sticker or Darwin "fish" on my buckboard ...

RamziD ... yes, Austin is a different planet. I graduated from UT. It's an alien oasis of some sort, like it should be in California or something. Maybe aliens brought it to Earth just to keep us confused.

mordacious1 & epeeist ... read that one incorrectly ... GOD FORGIVE ME that I thought epeeist was from Texas! Aw, hell, we're mostly from the UK anyway ... just a few thousand miles and a few hundred years removed. And, mordacious1, shame on you ... insulting moles like that!

thewhitepearl ... Now, if I were on the road and people were honking and weird-staring, I'd KNOW that it was about the bumper sticker or the Darwin "fish" ... that's all I'm gonna say ...

Troll, spam, offensive? What, is this a popularity contest? Troll, wasn't that something from a Monty Python movie?

I love you guys!

338. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #190016 by Border Collie on June 8, 2008 at 7:36 am

You guys are wonderful! I love the comments. Sorry, mordacious1 & epeeist, I misread something ... it's thewhitepearl who's from Dallas (woo hoo!) ... no Texas in England ... you know how cixelsyd Texans are. Suffering ... didn't the Buddhists address that a long time ago? OK, pretend I'm a cretinist ... God created a perfect universe, etc., but as a cretinist, I want only the good stuff, the pleasure and blame the bad stuff on Satan. Sorry, you have to grab el toro by BOTH horns and stare him in the eye. "Hellmouth" ... nothing but a newer name for the "maw of Kali" from Hindu mythology. I'm going back to bed.

339. Faith no more as World Youth Day fans flames of disbelief

Comment #189839 by Border Collie on June 7, 2008 at 10:54 am

"dubious grasp of theology"?! What?! I have a fantastic grasp of theology. I was raised as a screamer Southern Baptist fundamentalist and have read widely in Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism
and fairly widely in basic Western and Eastern mythologies. Sorry, but I think RD has a very good grasp of theology in that he's sees it with clearer eyes than any theologian can. I probably have a pretty poor grasp of fairyology, but so what? I did see the movie "Photographing Faries", however and thought it was pretty cute.

"It is important not to cause offence, when so many people believe ..." Pardon me? It seems that is when it's exactly the time to "cause offence". For myself, if I'm skewing off in some idiotic direction (which I probably do on a fairly regular basis), I want someone to "offend" me by pointing it out to me. If I was afraid to "offend" my karate students by putting a bruise on their ribs once in a while, they wouldn't really know how to defend themselves in a life/death situation. So, hey, if truth offends, so be it.

340. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #189815 by Border Collie on June 7, 2008 at 10:25 am

Wow, I'm surprised at the Texans here! Maybe we're all worn out from dealing with the irrational incessantly repressive/oppressive religiosity of the area and need a place to express ourselves. Seriously, I'd be afraid to have, say, an "atheist" bumper sticker here (Fort Worth); I'm certain I'd be shot at and or my car would be vandalized. Anyway, a small, short-term victory is good. However, the wingnuts run deep here, so don't expect them to go away. Who else is a Texan besides epeeist? I thought I was the only one!

341. Stupid flies live longer: study

Comment #189567 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Bad news, I guess the fundamentalists are going to out live us.

342. The Expelled Evolutionist

Comment #189562 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:46 pm

Don't waste your time arguing with Christians. Don't waste your money on Expelled.

343. Blogger spreads the gospel of science

Comment #189556 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:28 pm

Sorry, but ID is NOT an "alternative theory" to evolution ... that's like saying astrology is alternative to astronomy ... well, maybe for idiots ...

344. Hints of 'time before Big Bang'

Comment #189553 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Bruno, you are not alone ...

345. Male circumcision is a weapon in the sperm wars

Comment #189550 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 1:09 pm

Or maybe it's just a bunch of insane crap perpetrated by ignorant people ...

346. The day of judgment

Comment #189538 by Border Collie on June 6, 2008 at 12:40 pm

"the dominion of peace, under Islam" ... gotta love that one ...

David Koresh and the Branch Davidians ... what a frigging waste of manpower and tax dollars taking them down! Nobody gave a damn what they were doing except the FBI, the ATF and other similar enforcement agencies. I mean, what were the Davidians going to do, conquer the Earth? Once the do-nothing enforcement agencies got into it and started mouthing off, a high school psychology student could have predicted the horrible outcome. They could have paid me the millions of dollars they paid (wasted) all those enforcement wankers to stand around and eat doughnuts for 51 days and I could have captured Koresh, by myself, when he went to get his Egg McMuffin and coffee one morning.

347. Opponents of Evolution Adopting a New Strategy

Comment #189058 by Border Collie on June 5, 2008 at 9:51 am

When Texas (my state) starts handing out graduate degrees in creation "science", I'm leaving. So, it appears that Texas education is still designed to reinforce ignorance, just like it has always done.

348. Darwin still causing waves after 150 years

Comment #189054 by Border Collie on June 5, 2008 at 9:40 am

JLD Calgary ... read "Origin" ... If I can do it, you can do it. Don't look for quick, easy answers ...

349. The Great Evangelical Decline

Comment #188791 by Border Collie on June 4, 2008 at 2:43 pm

The decline is not apparent in Fort Worth where Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is; however, I'm sure there is at least a little wailing and gnashing of teeth over this ...

I've been telling the fundies for 28 years that the conservative politicians didn't give a damn about them ... they only wanted their votes and money ... but, spitting into the wind pretty much described the effectiveness of such ...

350. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #188650 by Border Collie on June 4, 2008 at 10:32 am

Neither science nor religion is simply going to hand meaning to us. Don't expect it or them to do so. We have to find that for ourselves. Joseph Campbell said that the predominant cultural mythology has to keep up with science, not the other way around, and that if it doesn't, it becomes obsolete. So, here we are.

Seems that in Texas, the public schools really avoid teaching critical thinking and focus on indoctrination and entertainment.