Comments by Philip1978

Comment #193722 by Philip1978 on June 16, 2008 at 12:19 am

Apathy personified

I think Irate got it right when he coined the phrase (s)hit and run when referring to the evil pastor's posts on this site! :)

Billy, SG

I swear I saw one of those snakes eating dirt and speaking...

:)

302. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #193218 by Philip1978 on June 15, 2008 at 12:35 am

David

Naughty boy, posting on a Sunday again, Yahweh, the deity formally known as El, will not be best pleased with you matey boy. I think it clearly says you are not to do this in the Bible, I clearly remember a man was stoned to death for his actions. Are you defying your god?

So, are you planning on apologising to Corylus for your "fundamentalist" insult? I am still waiting for that.

Philip

303. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193213 by Philip1978 on June 15, 2008 at 12:23 am

My proof for a designer? Humble yourself and open your eyes. The proof is so very prevalent all around you.

This is funny, I posted on another thread about how I sometimes have a laugh with a friend of mine where all he uses as arguments are "But Jesus loves you!" and the all time classic "If you would only open your heart to Jesus, you would know it too!"

RtG try this on for size:

I have just had a vision sent to me by Odin, he told me that you have 6 eyes, 23 toes, you have glasses on and you have a son called Geoff who likes wearing his clothes on back to front.

Since Odin is supposed to be the God of Wisdom he therefore must be right and you could not possibly question that. If you would only humble yourself before Odin you would know this.

Of course I am lying my arse off but I could happily sit there all day repeating that last sentence, it doesn't make me any more correct does it?

How could I possibly know

1 Its actually Odin telling me this?

2 You are as I said, 23 toes and all?

No matter how much I WANT to believe I am in direct communication with Odin, I am still acting in an irrational fashion.

Now, substitute Odin for Yahweh and hopefully you can understand why I would question your direct line communication to the god of the Christian Bible.

Philip

304. Behe's Empty Box

Comment #193113 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm

Layla Nasreddin

Yes, that be the same Behe, a very silly man indeed, so silly that he got his arse well and truly booted into obscurity when he started making ridiculous and erroneous claims about Flagellum Motors at the Dover Drubbing, I mean, Trial!

He is not important, more of the black sheep of the family who never evolved! :)

305. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193075 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Quetz

Tea is great, if I see a bit more fire outside then perhaps the kettle is going on, but have found a rather nice glass of Linderman's Merlot that, if this be my last second then it is a fine drink to apocalypse to! :)

306. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193050 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:58 pm

Are you saying we've got a rapture a-coming?

Oh bollocks not ANOTHER one!

Do you religious guys ever get sick and tired of waking up the day after the apocalypse and say...."hmmm, the world seems to be working still.....could I have gone wrong here? Was the person who told me this promoting needless fear and misery?"

I remember surviving Nostradarmus's end of the world quite happily! In fact, it was very easy!

So RtG when is this one popping up and should I have the asbestos underpants at the ready?

307. Behe's Empty Box

Comment #193040 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Richard

I find it very odd you still get letters about this chap, I suppose the religious mind is not something one can possibly fathom, but with all he has been through do you not think throwing in the towel would be a good thing? (Thinking about it I am perfectly sure his knowledge of where his towel is would be a more suited case for Sherlock Holmes or Morse after a good pint of Oxford ale!). I would have thought after all that has happened to Behe his credibility has sunk to such lows that digging or gargantuan sized drills would have to be incorporated to find it!

Well, please keep up the good work in persuading people that irreducible complexity is in fact a swear word and I will keep learning better truths, I promise! :)

Philip

308. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193030 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:11 pm

Peacebeuponme

That reminds me of the Douglas Adams notion of Teasers -

"Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. they cruise around looking for planets which haven't made interstellar contact and buzz them....They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom noone's ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennae on their head and making "beep beep" noises"!

(P51-52 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, 2002, Picador)

309. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #193012 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 12:41 pm

Actually, while I am thinking about this, txpiper, do you believe a snake and a donkey were able to speak as put down in the Bible?

I personally have seen no evidence of such a thing ever happening in the world of nature, if there was an evolutionary advantage to snakes and donkeys talking then I would understand it but as far as I know not one of them is able to speak ancient Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic.

Saying that I have seen the Jungle Book and Shrek....:)

310. Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Comment #193009 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 12:35 pm

David

Do you believe a snake was able to speak in the Garden of Eden?

Do you believe Jesus wants you to hate yourself, your friends and your family in order to follow him?

It says so in your religious book to do these things do you not think that is somewhat eccentric?

Not that I am even suggesting that all atheists are incredibly intelligent, bloody hell I have met some very stupid atheists but I find religious belief to be very eccentric and makes people do and say stupid things that a more intelligent person would otherwise not do.

Plus its got bugger all to do with what colour atheist I am as well! :)

Ah yes, while I am at it, do you think you could apologise to Corylus for your insensitive comments on another thread?

Cheers

Philip

311. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192921 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 8:48 am

SRWB

The pies are not for converting, we have the Gay Fruit flies and Tea for that, these are simply humorous missiles intended for those who dare to pray for Philip, cos as I said, noooooooooobody prays for Philip! :)

If those who are daft enough to pray for Philip's salvation, could you just tell me before if there are any who have any dietary complaints such as lactose intolerance or need gluten free pies etc. I can then select the appropriate pie just for you! :)

312. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192914 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 8:03 am

I get to throw custard pies at my god? Praise be!

313. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192907 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 7:47 am

Steve

But what created the intelligence to create the intelligence necessary for it to happen in the first; place - HA! Bet you didn't think of that one did ya! :)

What worries me about chatting to people like RtG is that it looks like I went out of my way to verbally abuse him all because I questioned his god.

Ok, I may have gone over the top with the unforgivable sinning but what really hacks me off is that some "holy" bastard has drilled it into him/her to get worried when being question about Jesus. Talk about brain washing at the highest level, so nasty.

I just questioned Jesus like I would Horus or existence of Wooter's brain and BANG! "Philip you bastard, now I am going to have to pray for you!"

I am not sorry sorry about the custard pie throwing though, nooooobody prays for Philip I tells yer! Noooobody!

314. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192799 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:26 am

Goldy

You know of the Goons, may Quetz bless your next hot beverage! :)

Speaking of beverages, I have to go down the pub with my Dad soon, catch you all later.

Cheeeeeeeeers!

:)

315. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192793 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:19 am

Philip hurls custard pie at Received for his insolence! :)

316. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192789 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:16 am

Right

Its time for action, I am going to post on my blog all I have on the existence of Jesus and then pester you all to challenge me on it when I am done, good idea?

Its going to be a big post but this is something I really want to do and I can shamelessly promote my blog at the same time! :)

http://teafueledmadness.blogspot.com/

317. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192785 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:10 am

Stop bloody praying for me you stupid fool!

The next person to say they are going to pray for me I will.....hurl a custard pie at them! :)

318. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192783 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 1:05 am

I am sorry but I think it is you who have to produce the documents, after all it is you making the assertion that Jesus existed.

Does it not bother you that there is no mention of Jesus from the surrounding countries? Not one single tradesman running back to his country shouting about this miracle worker, a man who feeds and heals people? Why are there no records of it anywhere?

The bible has too many contradictions in it to make it reliable, it is as Epeeist said written decades and in some cases a full 100 years after the event.

When was Jesus born? 6BC or 6AD?

Why is there no such place as Nazareth existing until around the end of the 4th Century when it finally got added to the pilgrim trail?

Why does Jesus's story look so much like the stories from other religions? Horus the Egyptian god is but one good example.

Tell me why its such a coincidence that the 25th of December is such an important date? Is it because of the sun and where it sets in the sky?

Tell me why the 3 Stars in the Orion's Belt constellation just so happened to be referred to as The Three Wise Men and how that managed to make its way into the Bible stories?

You ever heard of the First Council of Niceaea in 325 AD? Men VOTED on what went in the Bible, the "Holy" days etc Jesus's divinity won by a narrow margin, if it wasn't for the Spanish Prelate Ossious bending Constantine's ear, Jesus would have been a human carpenter! Constantine only did this to see if he could unite Europe under one religion but the Cathars and the Arians little civil war made it difficult to control.

See, I could go on like this all day but in the end it is up to you to show me the evidence.

You tell me where to look and I will happily take you up on it, look at it and get back to you with what I find. My mind is not closed to the idea of Jesus existing but I need to be convinced about it.

Your go!

319. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192749 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 12:31 am

ReceivedTheGift

I have knowledge of history and until I find some amazing primary, 1st hand evidence for the existence of a human being Jesus Christ, powers are a different matter entirely, I will continue to accept the fact that Jesus never existed.

Philip

320. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192742 by Philip1978 on June 14, 2008 at 12:25 am

Recieved why are you so scared about what is going to happen to Goldy or anyone else who doesn't believe in your god?

Why do you have to pray for our salvation at all?

Will your god suddenly have a change of heart?

Why does god want to punish anyone?

It seems to me that your god has all the makings of a bully, a dictator and again why would I want to have anything to do with something like that?

321. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192719 by Philip1978 on June 13, 2008 at 11:53 pm

Received

This may sound like I attacking you but I promise I have no bad feelings towards your good self when I type the following:

I renounce the Holy Ghost, Jesus and God, may they pleasure themselves with a prize winning leek for all I care.

Right, thats one less atheist you have to pray for and I will warrant Jesus does not love me any more.

Thing is I really cannot stand it when people say they are going to pray for me, what good can possibly come of it other than to make you feel fuzzy?

Prayer does not work, I can absolutely promise you it is a waste of time - go and say the same thing to a milk bottle and you will get the same response back.

It all seems so disingenuous and ultimately cruel to me, why bother?

I know some believers whose prayers didn't get answered and they have then started to think they have offended their god and actually start getting paranoid that he is punishing them only they don't know what it is because God will not tell them. So they mentally beat themselves up over nothing all and this is how a loving father treats his kids?

My dad is way better than any god, if I need his help he, being the kind and caring man that he is, will do all he can to help me through it. I would do the same and more for that man because he has earned it. THAT is a loving father, not some invisible figment of the imagination who demands your subservience or he will send you to a fiery torment for eternity to punish you for your sins.

Hmmm love me or burn, pray to me but the answers will be Yes, No, Maybe and I will make it as difficult as possible for you and the other 6.5 Billion others on the planet to know what my answer is. What a loving Dad!

I hope you understand I am attacking the religion here, I am attacking the stupid and dangerous ideas that are a result of following the rules of a being whose mind you CANNOT know.

I am appalled at what religion does to people, I have seen it first hand and it is not pretty, so when I attack it it is because I care about what is happening. I do not hate you for being a Christian, I despise religion for what it does to people, some very good people I know have suffered greatly for it and that is something I will not stand by and not question it.

Apologies for the minor essay :)

Philip

322. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192391 by Philip1978 on June 13, 2008 at 12:42 am

Errrrrrmmmmm

Hang on, I'll bet there is The Hidden Answer that I had to find by dismissing all of those and making up my own! Yes, thats it!

Euuuuuurrreeeekkkkkaaa!

It was Ceiling Cat who told you! Now you can haz cheezburger! :)

323. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192387 by Philip1978 on June 13, 2008 at 12:21 am

Philip picks himself up off floor...no....musnt laugh...sides hurt...

txpiper asked Steve "May I ask how you know this?"

Txpiper, does Steve really come across as the type of chap who would make stuff up?

Diacanu

LEAVE THE ARSE ALONE, STAND WELL BACK...No more epiphany for you young man, you have had quite enough already! My goodness think about it, sure, you would be kissing DR's arse today but think about the future, next thing I know you will be doing hard drugs or worse...religion! ;)

324. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #191974 by Philip1978 on June 12, 2008 at 8:04 am

I have an atheist friend who I joke around with a lot and one day we had a silly debate on msn over Jesus

He was using only two arguments contrary to anything I threw at him:

"Jesus loves you!"

and

"If you would only open your heart to Jesus you would know it too"

We were laughing our heads off thinking of different things you could say that to.

Here is an example:

I said " I renounce the Holy Ghost, Jesus and God as per instructions of LUKE 12:10, MARK 3:29 and MATTHEW 12: 31-32"

I have committed the unforgivable sin for which I will go to hell for - there is no getting out of this at all.

He said : But Jesus still loves you and will forgive you

I said :"How can he forgive an unforgivable sin?"

He said " If you only opened your heart to Jesus you would know this!"

Does this in anyway remind you of any religious argument you have ever had? - I provided all sort of evidence I have at my disposal, mostly about Jesus not existing etc but all he had to do was say the above and he could stay smug!

It taught me a lot about what you are up against when debating religious people, it really did! :)

325. Debating creationism in Louisiana schools

Comment #191952 by Philip1978 on June 12, 2008 at 7:10 am

hungarianelephant

Janet? Do you want to incur the wrath of Quetz upon thee? Quick, repent and drink Tea before the Falcons turn up! :)

Philip

326. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #191947 by Philip1978 on June 12, 2008 at 7:03 am

Keith

The single fact that Reverend Shayne used the word "monotreme" is enough to convince me that none of this is pointless. Until about 5 mins ago when I read and laughed heartily at The Reverend's sharp humour I did not know what monotreme meant, now I do.

Bravo all, keep up the good work!

Philip

327. Debating creationism in Louisiana schools

Comment #191941 by Philip1978 on June 12, 2008 at 6:46 am

I am honestly confused

If Creationism is not about God, not part of the Christian Religious belief in their God having intellectual property rights to the start of the universe then what the bloody hell is it?

How on Earth can it BE anything else?

How does Gene get to dribble down the phone saying he is being misrepresented? What did Professor Forrest say that was wrong? Am I just too "atheist" to be able to hear dear old Gene?

Yay for Professor Forrest! She at least knows where her towel is, BRAVO!

Philip

328. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #191877 by Philip1978 on June 12, 2008 at 3:30 am

Vaal

I am tempted to use the Arthur Dent Gambit, I want to see who rusts first!

I refuse to let David use the word fundamentalist until he knows what the word means

Corylus, you are welcome

You once very kindly called me a gentleman, I have a reputation to uphold! ;)

Philip

329. Holiday in Hellmouth

Comment #191837 by Philip1978 on June 12, 2008 at 12:56 am

David

Please can you be so kind as to never refer to Corylus as a "literalist fundamentalists!" ever again. I do not know Corylus as a person but from her posts I see nothing fundamentalist about her. She is a highly intelligent, interesting and fun poster who I have a lot of respect for.

I have objected many times to your use of the word fundamentalist, something which you insist on clinging to, I am going to continue to ask politely if you could refrain from using the word as it is clear you have no idea what it means.

Philip

330. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #191546 by Philip1978 on June 11, 2008 at 7:01 am

Diacanu

That was hilarious! I have been ill for the past few days and that has cheered me up immensely!

That Bible is full of nothing but filth and violence, for further evidence check out Ezekiel 23:19-20, Isaiah 36:12, Ezekiel 4:10-17 and Malachi 2:2-3 just for starters - That book is positively vile it really is! :)

331. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #191513 by Philip1978 on June 11, 2008 at 5:23 am

rchoquette

Just be careful when posting under the influence! :)

332. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #191511 by Philip1978 on June 11, 2008 at 5:19 am

Keith

Surely its not the size of the hubris that counts, its what a person does with it thats important! :)

333. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #191501 by Philip1978 on June 11, 2008 at 4:44 am

Steve is on to something here, I think this site has been one of the main bad influences for all I have been buying of late - My Carl Sagan is still on order, where is it dammit!

334. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #191483 by Philip1978 on June 11, 2008 at 3:33 am

Paula

You are a remarkable lady, I really mean that, you are far braver than I could ever be!

I would have been shouting bollocks at least 5 mins into that one!

What utter arrogance on his part! Scientists said the Earth was the center of the universe?? LIAR FOR JESUS ALERT!

I think you should have said something about the 9th Commandment!

I think you deserved that Remy and I will see what I can do about getting you a medal for your bravery! Anyone know of a medal person? :)

Philip

335. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #191432 by Philip1978 on June 11, 2008 at 12:53 am

Edited: forgot to check the person I was typing to

txpiper

Steve is right, I have read through a few of your posts, you seem to have firm convictions that you are right about how your God is important in what you are discussing. You claim an intelligent designer is involved in the workings of the this world and have developed firm convictions and I think that is your biggest mistake.

Steve's airplane analogy is spot on - once you start injecting god into the workings of it you are removing just what it is that makes scientific study so important.

I think the others have gone over ad infinitum how impossibly complex, and in my opinion stupid, it is to have a designer involved with the making of anything in this universe. So much of it goes horribly wrong and does not work as if an intelligent designer was involved, if a designer had been involved so much more would work properly!

Cheers

Philip

336. A word for nonbelievers

Comment #191009 by Philip1978 on June 10, 2008 at 5:21 am

I am not in an ethical free for all because I believe in an absolute God who provides the standard for absolute morality

Riiiiiiiight, so where did you get your ideas for this one then David?

Deuteronomy 13 (New International Version)

12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, [a] both its people and its livestock. 16 Gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt. 17 None of those condemned things [b] shall be found in your hands, so that the LORD will turn from his fierce anger; he will show you mercy, have compassion on you, and increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your forefathers, 18 because you obey the LORD your God, keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.

Or Deuteronomy 22:28

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [c] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Or this perhaps?

Judges 19 (New International Version)

22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him."

23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing."

Or are you more of a New Testament kind of chap?

After all Mark 5 says this

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

So in keeping with that have you ever committed adultery as is defined by Jesus?

27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

If you had a lusty thought about a woman you had best start to repent as best you can!! :)

How about this from Luke, if you follow what Jesus asks then you have to do this:

Luke 14:25-27 (New International Version)

25Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters "yes, even his own life "he cannot be my disciple. 27And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

Did you mean this "absolute morality" David? I got it from the Bible, the book that is the word of YOUR God, if you believe in that God then you must of course agree with what is said above. If not then is God possibly wrong? Is the Bible wrong?

337. Trailer for Religulous

Comment #190979 by Philip1978 on June 10, 2008 at 3:13 am

Cool

I have always maintained I have mixed feelings about this chap but once in a while I like hearing him give religion a good bashing. I love the way folk get positively frantic when their religion is questioned and I encourage it, religion has to be questioned in order to point out its ridiculous status. I wish Bill all the best of luck with this, I really do and if this movie appears here in the UK I will be glad to watch it, go Bill, go gettem!

338. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #189273 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 11:50 pm

Appleby

WTF??

I should "read" your posts? Is there some incredible hidden meaning, where up until now I have simply missed it because I was too busy just reading the surface of them? I have read your posts and they are filled with shit like

Anyway, yes, I prefer virgin (human) females. I see nothing wrong with that. In my experience, they're "tighter", humbler, more tactful and won't try to compare me with the other men they've slept with. And I enjoy teaching them to make up for their lack of experience. It's not just about them pleasuring me

Virgin ploughing, good start! But no matter how scary the above sounds thats a bit of a strawman so lets move on.

I think the only reason why bestials haven't come out of closet demanding equals rights is because there aren't enough of them yet.

I am simply trying to establish whether or not homosexuals view themselves (and consequently their rights) as somehow different from those who practice bestiality

So here you start equating gay people with bestiality and have not let up on it since, using the word scientific a lot and pouring scorn upon others for not realising this has been your wont, I could quote more if you want? Your blatant homophobia is disgusting, I think you have been told that many times but still haven't taken it in and you keep hiding behind the word "thought experiment" which doesn't wash at all. All that crap about teh gays not making good enough or suitable parents was too nauseating to quote in full, if you want I can go back but there is no point.

Sex shouldn't be much of a problem for many animals. They have those holes for a reason, you know

That is just plain fucking scary, but, as others and I have explained its not biologically right for other species to shag, so I don't think you have a point there.

I have read your posts and I have replied to them as I saw fit, dont accuse me otherwise. I could sit here quote mining all day but I have loads to do, so just accept that I have read a lot of what you have typed and I disagree with a heck of a lot of it, as is set down in my posts. No way am I saying my posts are perfect rebuttals but I wanted to make it clear from your accusation that I am in fact well aware of your opinions.

339. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #189023 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 8:16 am

If you can't be arsed to read my comments then why the hell should I even bother?

340. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #189013 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 8:00 am

Appleby

If Quetz was to say something I disagreed with I would tell him, Corylus was telling the truth.

If Quetz was embarrassing himself I would call him on it, but, I read what he typed and I can find no fault in it.

Whatever I put forward here on this site, people can call me on it and they have. I have argued with the best and worse of them, but I still got called on it from all sides.

I have found fault in your line of argument and think you deserve whatever "ganging up" you get, you brought this on yourself by persisting with it.

341. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188978 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 5:30 am

noodly_noodleson

Thinking about it, 70,000 characters is a lot to say the least, normally I would say thats a load of old bollocks - how come I can get by with 26? Then again, that is a very impressive feat and like you said this is the work of many generations, I am surprised they get preserved so well.

But I'll bet there is some clever sod out there who knows them all - then again the fun would be making the smart arse write them all out! :)

342. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188967 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 4:21 am

noodly_noodleson

70,000 you say...

Going back to my student days I reckon I could have read all that in an afternoon! ;)

Yiiiiikes thats a lot of characters!

343. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188926 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 2:20 am

Steve

You also forgot we Hetros are obviously doing all we can to educate you and turn you back so you don't start encouraging other folk to ravage animals or start interfering with family values! :)

344. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188898 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2008 at 12:49 am

I leave the party for 5 mins...

Appleby, on the whole I have been nice to you but I am getting increasingly tired of you insulting good people's intelligence because of something like their sexuality.

Your assumptions about Sharon typify everything I have become to dislike about your attitude. You have repeatedly come back with retorts about how I am taking your words out of context whenever I questioned it but I see little evidence of what you claim to be true.

An example

1069. Comment #188627 by Appleby on June 4, 2008 at 9:33 am
Comment #188625 by SharonMcT

You're gay too, aren't you? I can tell from your picture.

This is right after Sharon very correctly summed up your line of argument, you threw this back at her instead of standing up for yourself or admitting you were wrong. How is incorrectly assuming Sharon's sexuality a way of answering the question? What possible help is that to the debate? Do you think that because I am not gay means I answer questions differently to someone like Steve? Its got fuck all to do with the question and everything to do with your homophobia which you refuse to admit.

If you had stood up and admitted you were wrong or even gave an apology I would understand and respect that more. But you like to hide behind the words "thought experiments" as if you are just suddenly playing devils advocate and that its all ok

What you're reading on these pages are thought experiments. I still can't understand why everyone (and here of all places) is so sensitive about these issues.

That means fuck all and I think you are lying, you are exactly how Al described you and I have had enough.

If you can't provide anything better than to equate bestiality and homosexuality whilst also insulting people's intelligence then I suggest you give up now because you are going to convince nobody on that front. Like Podaar said your "Scientific" argument holds very little weight and I think you need to rethink things a lot.

The rest is up to you, grow up or shut up.

Philip

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Comment #188582 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2008 at 8:10 am

Please can you call me Philip, I much prefer it.

Any animal you attempt to shag I would have thought, though I wish you luck with something the size and weight of an adult elephant!

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Comment #188576 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2008 at 8:05 am

Appleby

Are you really as dim as I think you are or are you doing this deliberately?

Bestiality harms animals, that can be established quite easily, which is what qomak's post is saying is wrong, so NO, bestiality is NOT PERMITTED!

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Comment #188550 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2008 at 7:45 am

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Someone mentioned this before....

Humans are of the same species, built to shag each other - Science has proved that, I am sure the biologists here can fill you in on details like the right pheromones, brain chemicals etc, I don't know enough about it but evolution usually brings same species together for companionship etc Its a good survival thing if the species works in groups etc etc

Animals are of ANOTHER species, not biologically sound enough to shag, they were not built for it, I dont care if you think that any hole is a goal, it is not biologically sound to do it. You have just given those holes a purpose for which they were not made for, so it is not scientifically sound to shag them.

Hows that?

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Comment #188519 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2008 at 7:07 am

Appleby

I don't know how else to respond, you keep saying consent is not an issue but thats part of the whole bloody reason not to shag animals because it IS harming them!

Who here has been dictating where we chaps stick our dicks? Have we not been repeating ad infinitum that its ok until it starts causing harm or distress?

As Epeeist said its an ethical matter, forget the science testing bit! You could by all means test the brain wave patterns, the amount of struggling form the animal, the amount of times it tries to bite you etc. But first you would have to accept the logical and ethical reasons not to do such a fucking stupid thing - its all shades, shapes and sizes of WRONG, end of story. Why does it need scientific testing to prove it is ok?

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Comment #188417 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2008 at 5:01 am

Shocking Cock up? He is attaching electrodes to his bits?

WILL SOMEONE PLZE SAVE TEH KITTEHS! :)

The mice would be hiding if they know whats good for them!

Ceiling Cat:

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/cat-armour-dan.jpg

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Comment #188409 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2008 at 4:17 am

They? The powers that be? Thor and Odin? Hello magazine?

I have more hope in humanity than to think that bestiality will become the norm, to quote Bill Watterson who did the Calvin and Hobbes cartoons "Flatulence could be all the rage, it would still be disgusting!"