Police slam Catholic Church (Australia)



VICTORIA Police has launched a scathing attack on the Catholic Church, accusing it of deliberately impeding its investigations into child abuse.


In a submission to the parliamentary inquiry into the handling of child abuse by churches, signed by Chief Commissioner Ken Lay, police recommend that some of the church’s actions to hinder investigations be criminalised.


The submission lists a number of ways in which the church has hindered the criminal justice process, including dissuading victims of sexual crimes from reporting them to police, failing to engage with police and alerting suspects of allegations against them, ”which may have resulted in loss of evidence”.

It says the church moved or protected known or suspected sexual offenders. While the submission notes the church has recently improved co-operation with police, in some cases it has been reluctant to provide information even when a warrant was issued.


Police also say the typical delay in reports of sex offences within the church means more reports of alleged offences from the 1990s and early 2000s are expected in coming years.

Another submission, by lawyer Vivian Waller, who has represented more than 70 abuse victims, says that now-Cardinal George Pell refused to listen to a boy who was raped in Ballarat in 1969 soon after the event. But Father Pell was in the room when the victim told another priest what happened. Both times the victim tried to tell his story he was badly beaten, though not by the now Archbishop of Sydney, the submission says.


Written By: Jane Lee
continue to source article at theage.com.au


  1. I sincerely question whether or not this can even be considered “news” anymore. There appears to be two main default settings for Catholic clergy: Those who abuse children, and those who protect the ones who abuse children.

    Can you imagine attempting to start up a new religion today, in which one of the rituals involves tween-age boys sitting in a darkened booth with some man on the other side of a meshed peep-hole asking them whether or not they’ve been playing with themselves? And we’re talking about a man who, by the laws of the church, has never been with a woman!

  2. Unmitigated justice. There is no requirement for the attribute for mercy (Pesikta Rabbati 40), when prosecuting clergy.

  3. I’m looking forward to seeing a lot more jail time for religious abusers & enablers of all stripes.

  4. OP

    Cardinal George Pell refused to listen to a boy who was raped in
    Ballarat in 1969 soon after the event. But Father Pell was in the room
    when the victim told another priest what happened. Both times the
    victim tried to tell his story he was
    badly beaten

    That reads like a Mafia set up, the Don just clicks his fingers and steps back and unpleasantness & persuasion is taken care of by underlings with names like ‘knuckles’ or ‘Flick Knife Frankie’…but at least the Don keeps his Saville row dress nice and spotless and it is so important to keep up appearances in front of the sheeples!

    So the true face of RCC criminality begins to emerge, a little more each day, and a little more they seal their fate and slip that little bit further into the tar-pit of ludicrous embarrassing nonsense that all fairy tales are, especially when grown ups drool to the telling.

    How anyone can still support them is a mystery and a dereliction of humanity, this is not an isolated incident, it is global and frequent.
    These inadequate sad excuses for men are dangerously insane every single one of them.

  5. The news isn’t so much that the cover-up is happening; that’s old news indeed.The news is that the cover-up is being officially recognised in a parliamentary inquiry.

  6. I don’t know how the Law works in Australia but here in the U.K. pretty much everything listed to the right of the picture above would fall under perverting (sic) the course of justice. Which makes one wonder why there hasn’t been mass (sic – again!) prosecutions here of both the alleged abusers and of those involved in the cover-ups.

  7. …but at least the Don keeps his Saville row dress nice and spotless …

    Easy there tiger….

    In other news today…”Savile abuse claims: Met Police launch criminal inquiry”


    Just a pity the UK authorities weren’t a bit more fastidious and quick off the mark with the RCC.

  8. True Amos, but then it’s a shame they weren’t so fastidious about investigating Savile when the first allegations were made over 30 years ago.

  9. The RCC, throughout the centuries after its founding, has been dedicated to weave an efficient network of power where no one dared to criticize it and question it, except by Protestants in Northern Europe. Its members (clergy and lay staff) have developed a stunning arrogance  and now they are in a situation where they have to answer for their actions, especially for its illegal actions, with the result that they are using all kinds of legal tricks and  delaying tactics to hinder any investigation of irregular and criminal acts involving  that Church. I think it is high time that this organization must be informed, in a firm and decisive manner, about the limits and red lines that must not be crossed. There is still too much tolerance towards the irregular actions committed by the RCC. Tolerance not granted to other colectives and individuals committing the same deeds.

  10.  Apparently Savile was a enthusiastic Roman Catholic clone…probably explains a few predilections.

  11. When the cops are done with them, I want to know who will launch a scathing attack on VICTORIA Police for not doing f-all about a crime that has been going on for centuries.

  12. I posted this before in an obsolete topic. I am posting it again in case you missed it.

    I howled with laughter at a CBC radio news story on 2012-10-18 about the Boy Scouts “perversion files”. They read out a confession by a scout leader who said he was no longer going to contest the molestation charges. He was going to hand in his Boy Scout registration. He said “I have been doing some soul searching and I decided to go back to the Catholic priesthood” (where presumably there would be less heat and more opportunity).I would hope this scandal finally puts to rest the myth that gays and pedophiles are the same thing. The Boy Scouts excluded gays and recruited and encouraged pedophiles.

  13. The news is not that priests molest children, or that the church helps them escape prosecution and find new victims. The news in that the church is so often immune from prosecution.

    The Boy Scout scandal may well result in them disbanding. The disbanding of the Catholic church is still considered unthinkable.

    What is going on?

    1. fear of the supernatural
    2. backroom influence
    3. immense wealth and power to punish
    4. belief that churches are fundamentally good no matter how they behave.
    5. closet pedophiles pulling the strings.
    6. tradition of tolerating corruption

  14. I think in law and in common speech, we should avoid the deliberately vague term child abuse. It can mean anything from anal rape of a four year old to oral sex with a horny 17-year old who was the persistent instigator, or a 19 year old boy who has sex with his 17 year old girl friend. It can even mean hitting or swearing at child or failing to provide proper nutrition. To me, the term child abuse conjures up silly images of misuse of a child, for example using one as a ladder or a chauffeur. We should coin more specific terms. What we are doing is equivalent to lumping all crimes with adult victims as adult abuse.

  15. All this story confirms is what we already knew, namely that the catholic church harboured paedophiles in the vast majority if not all the countries where it had a presence and that even now it is content to obstruct  justice whereever possible so as to save it’s arse.

  16. To me, the term child abuse conjures up silly images of misuse of a child, for example using one as a ladder or a chauffeur.

    Yes to you, but not to me, or most people I should suspect…you are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn’t make it accurate. 




    The fact is, the RCC and other institutions are not restricted to one particular type of child abuse. Like the term paedophilia, the term ‘child abuse’ may cover a number of bases, but I think we all know what the term signifies. Then there is the more definitive ‘child rape’….too broad a brush also if it’s semantics we are playing here. Any sixteen year old shagging a fifteen year old in the UK is committing ‘child rape’ of a statutory kind, but not ‘child abuse’ by any stretch of the imagination no matter how ya wanna cut it.


    What we are doing is equivalent to lumping all crimes with adult victims as adult abuse.

    That is a false equivalence of the highest order I’m afraid based on your own interpretative opinion in contradiction of what most others see child abuse as recognised by most authoritative sources.

    Who is this ‘we’ you refer to in any case? I’m with all the ‘other’ lot on this one.

    Whether the arseholes are buggering choir boys, beating the living daylights out of babies, or scaring the shite clean out of kids with the threat of the devil burning the skin of their bodies in the fiery pit of hell for all eternity, they are committing child abuse and I’m fully informed of what that means under the term ‘child abuse’ when specifics are not mentioned.

    Whichever the ‘child abuse’, they are all still rotten to the core.

    “Child abuse is the physical, sexual or emotional mistreatment or neglect of a child or children. In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department for Children And Families (DCF) define child maltreatment as any act or series of acts of commission or omission by a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm, or threat of harm to a child. Child abuse can occur in a child’s home, or in the organizations, schools or communities the child interacts with. There are four major categories of child abuse:neglect, physical abuse, psychological or emotional abuse, and sexual abuse’


    Remember, the article is probably covering all four categories of abuse, as it is well known that the RCC is guilty of all four. If a specific case details ‘anal rape’, I’ve no issue with being specific as long as the specifics can be detailed.

  17. And don’t forget that the present Pope, Holy Joe, thinks that the proper procedures were used in dealing with that renegade Catholic, Galileo! Only 400 years or so to admit he was right and the RCC wrong!  But Holy Joe thinks the procedures were ok! Bullying is a rather weak word when it comes to the mind control exerted by the RCC for centuries. Jeez, they only abandoned their Index of forbidden authors in the 1960s! Before that any Catholic reading say James Joyce,  Karl Marx, Alexander Dumas, or……. was subject to excommunication!

    Since we’re in Australia, I’ll use a cricket metaphor. It seems the RCC has been pushed onto the back foot! Hopefully someone will push the batsman over!

  18.  Ratty went  with the flow, from the council that apparently took nearly 20 yrs to reach a conclusion…apart from the previous 400 years when they ignored it.

    And who knew Ratty was a geocentricism fan…although he cleverly distances himself from ridicule by a factor of one…

    According to Ernst Bloch, the heliocentric system – just like the
    geocentric – is based upon presuppositions that can’t be empirically


    But why Ratty seems enamoured of Bloch is because Ernst seems to be supporting the original RCC diktats, notice Ratty infers ‘reality’ through quoting other dingbats, keeping a squelch distance between him and the absurd.
    For a supposed theologian of impeccable credentials. according to the RCC scuttlebutt, disingenuous seems to be his forte taken to another level of mealy mouthed innuendo, all it conveys is that Benny gets his his 15th century mojo working without getting handy pandies dirty!

  19. >
    Remember, the article is probably covering all four categories of abuse,
    as it is well known that the RCC is guilty of all four.

    If they meant that they should say that.  The vagueness helps the RC escape condemnation.  If an old lady to contributes every week hears the local priest has been convicted of “child abuse” she will say to herself,  “Oh silly modern people, a whack across the hand with a ruler never hurt anyone. It didn’t hurt me.”

    Go back in time  we had the  vague “crimes against nature”. We still have “indecency”. I think it is wrong for the law to be squeamish. It should spell out exactly what the forbidden behaviours are.

    I have been charged only once in my life with a criminal offence, it was “gross indecency”. A mother had found a copy of a book I wrote on gay liberation under her son’s mattress. It did not go to trial, because my lawyer explained that it would make the law a laughing stock — rape through the mails.


  20. Did not Einstein point out you can choose any point you like as the center of the universe, but if you choose earth the math is messier.  It is like choosing a “navel of the world”.

  21.  Theologians are not known for extolling logic in their contemplations, you can tell them, they will not listen, otherwise apparently ‘de bhabi jeebus’ will start with the howling!

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