Perkins: Separation Of Church And State Helps ISIS

Sep 23, 2014

The Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins said today that the separation of church and state in the United States has contributed to the rise of Islamic extremist groups like ISIS, arguing in his radio commentary that ISIS has “filled the void left by secularism.”

According to Perkins, American ISIS militants wouldn’t have left the country to fight for the group if only the government had promoted Christianity over other faiths.

Listen to his comments here.

32 comments on “Perkins: Separation Of Church And State Helps ISIS

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    Miserablegit says:

    So, Muslims would not have gone to slaughter non Muslims if only there was more Christian primacy what total and utter cock.



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  • The Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins said today that the separation of church and state in the United States has contributed to the rise of Islamic extremist groups like ISIS, arguing in his radio commentary that ISIS has “filled the void left by secularism.”

    When I read stuff like this, it only reinforces my prejudice that America is on the way to becoming a failed state due to a shift to theocracy.



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  • yep, those americans who have left to join IS would have definitely thought twice if they were told chritisanity was approved by the american government but instead there was a “void” in America that could only be filled by flying off to Syria (seems legit)

    another slice of cowardly jihad envy from american cretianity. blame the american constitution for muslims joining an islamic war. from my understanding of this what he really wants to be doing is getting down the mosques and converting those followers of the wrong religion into followers of the right religion.



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  • According to Perkins, American ISIS militants wouldn’t have left the country to fight for the group if only the government had promoted Christianity over other faiths.

    Perhaps with a different faith-fanaticism, they would have gone witch-hunting in Africa instead?



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    NearlyNakedApe says:

    According to Perkins, American ISIS militants wouldn’t have left the country to fight for the group if only the government had promoted Christianity over other faiths.

    The US government DOES promote Christianity over other faiths. Yes, the good old religious bubble where facts never pass though its apparently impenetrable membrane. But by some mysterious magic, the ideological garbage from the religious bubble somehow always finds its way out to infect other ignorant morons just as pious as Mr. Perkins.



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    NearlyNakedApe says:

    Actually, I’m divided on which is worse: the shift to theocracy or the shift to idiocracy. Hey wait!.. Could these two be somehow related?



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  • I think a better comparison is to claim that moderate Islam, moderate Christianity or moderate “any other religion” are “Gateway” religions. The less we challenge moderate religious viewpoints, the easier it becomes for those who wish to move from a moderate viewpoint to an extreme one.



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  • So let me get this straight.. if we, as a nation , were all secularists, non-believers, there would be even more of us running off to die for god ?
    I think Tony needs a proof reader.



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    alaskansee says:

    It’s mostly muslims the muslims have gone to slaughter, not non-muslims, but only the right kind of muslim killing the wrong kind of muslims, of course.



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  • “American ISIS militants wouldn’t have left the country to fight for the group if only the government had promoted Christianity over other faiths”.
    ????????????????????
    Can somebody tell me the reasoning and logic of this statement?
    Why not promote Buddhism so that ISIS militants don’t leave the country? or pulp fiction reading, or pornography or, even better, halal hamburgers. What kind of future can the USA have, and perhaps the rest of the West, with “logical” minds like that of Tony Perkins. Remember that the decadence of the once great Muslim Civilization occurred in the Middle Ages when mistic nutters like Perkins displaced the Muslim philosophers and scholars and gradually imposed their religious speech on the Muslim society. It seems that in a few years time the USA will run the same fate. The brain of that Perkins boy is as stultified as the brain of the ISIS militants. I hope we won’t see ourselves in the future fighting Christian religious nuts in the same way we’re fighting Islamic nuts today.



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  • Mr. Perkins is afraid, and that’s a good thing; secularism is cutting into his pie and he’s beginning to see it, so he’s becomming desperate, as revealed by his ludicrous statements.



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  • According to Perkins…

    Seems to me, the article’s lead-in does not jive with Perkin’s radio statement.

    Perks is correct that humans need something to rally around. His perspective – Christ gets the boot from schools (et. al.) > secularism leaves a void > leaves the door wide open for any radical group. Thus, Perks “absurd yet logical” conclusion > America needs to return to “Christ centered vision”.

    Meh ~ all in a day’s work brought to you by (radical?!) Christians in the media.



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  • If we fail, it will be for reasons other than religious; we have far graver structural problems. But to your point, there is a documented and fairly stunning shift in just the last 10-15 years away from religion in America. We may in fact be one of the nations most rapidly embracing secularism. THE PROBLEM, is that us secularists are more likely to mind our own business than to make ourselves known. It’s really a PR problem. If you were to take a poll asking Americans, “would you die for your beliefs” and/or would you allow your children to be martyred for your beliefs, I would suspect the percentage of “religious” folks would plummet. Most Americans are not willing to suffer even mild inconveniences for their religious beliefs. Its really more like a club of interest for the purpose of “networking” (one of my least favorite Americanisms).

    That said, religiosity causes substantial social, psychological and cultural problems in America.
    My son is in kindergarden, last week he spoke out of turn saying ” what the hell”. Him speaking out of turn wasn’t the issue for the teacher is was the “shocking” use of the word. He didn’t know the religious meaning of the word, and thought he was being funny.
    I went on to explain to this idiot teacher and her cronies that they should be ashamed of themselves for using this made-up religious concept to TERRIFY small children. I suggested that they might as well take their 5 year olds to an NC-17 rated horror film, if they’re going to frighten them into obedience with this nonsensical concept of hell.



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  • But to your point, there is a documented and fairly stunning shift in just the last 10-15 years away from religion in America.

    Eric. Having recently toured your magnificent Rockie Mountains and Looking in from the outside. America is on the verge of being a theocracy, compared to the rest of the western world. Since WW2 the rest of the west has continued to civilize and rationalize its thinking. Religion is something that happens, but it has almost no power anymore. That nearly 50% of Americans think the earth is 8,000 years old and evolution is wrong, sadly puts you guys way back around the 10 yard line, to borrow an NFL analogy. A politician can’t get elected in America without professing religion. Australia’s second largest religious grouping behind the Catholics is atheism, and its the faster growing sector by far.

    I applaud your sentiments Eric and we’re all cheering for you, but we, the rest of the rational western world, need America to shed the power of the religious lobby, and start following evidence.



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  • You know, I’ve been saying to my friends for awhile now – those damn Inuit’s up there in Alaksa don’t have a religion and we constantly see them on the news in the desert converting to radical Islam.

    LOL – it amazes me how otherwise intelligent people can say things so completely stupid. So, Perkins logic is that radical secularism creates a vacuum??!! People are still going to church, they are still religious. The only thing I see right now are radical declarative statements with no substance.



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  • Philoctetes Sep 24, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    I wonder how this “Research Council” carries out its research? Could it be that they just scour the dark areas of the soul, or the abundant bigotry residing in their minds.

    Probably the same way Hammy and AIG do “science”! – Stick the name as a dishonest label of pseudo-authority, on to the dogmatic woosy notions they first thought of!



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    Charbel says:

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Defeat ISIS by trying to introduce more religion?! That’s like saying that the way to put out a fire on your curtains is to burn the whole house down.



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  • Ironically, his inability to rationalise logically exposes the actual problem. That is he, like many children raised on faith based belief systems, has lost/lose their ability to critically analyse evidence and arrive at rational conclusions.



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