Egypt’s Muslim, Christian authorities unite against atheism

Nov 18, 2014

By World Bulletin

Senior Muslim and Christian authorities are cooperating to draft a “scholarly response” to what they say is a growing trend of atheism, especially among Egyptian youth.

Christian churches in Egypt say they are joining forces with Egypt’s Al-Azhar, a prominent center of Sunni Muslim learning, to fight the spread of atheism in the country.

“The Church and the Al-Azhar are drafting a constructive mechanism to address atheism,” Poules Halim, a spokesman for Egypt’s Coptic Orthodox Church, told Anadolu Agency.

His statements came following a two-day conference, organized jointly between the Al-Azhar and the church, aimed at forging a “scholarly response” to atheism, which, Halim said, had been “spreading increasingly” in Egypt over the past three years.


 

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42 comments on “Egypt’s Muslim, Christian authorities unite against atheism

  • His statements came following a two-day conference, organized jointly between the Al-Azhar and the church, aimed at forging a “scholarly response” to atheism, which, Halim said, had been “spreading increasingly” in Egypt over the past three years.

    I can’t wait to see the quality of the “logic” in this “scholarly response”.

    A joint statement of the joint “beliefs” of Islam and the Coptic Orthodox Church, should also be good for a laugh, – given the disputes between Shia and Sunni, and the Orthodox Church and the Catholics!



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  • Now that they have a common enemy, maybe they’ll stop killing each other. On the sidebar on the article’s website is “Bomb found outside Cairo church” I doubt atheists planted it.



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  • His statements came following a two-day conference, organized jointly between the Al-Azhar and the [Coptic Orthodox] church, aimed at forging a “scholarly response” to atheism,

    I suppose for bigger laugh, we could await a scholarly joint response to atheism, from the Sunni Muslim Al-Azhar, and the Orthodox Jews in Palestine!!!

    (Don’t hold your breath! – It might take more than a two-day conference)



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  • 8
    Light Wave says:

    The funny thing about truth is – its like water it always finds a way to trickle out and turn into a wave, a tide and then a flood….good luck holding that back….



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  • “Senior Muslim and Christian authorities are cooperating to draft a “scholarly response” to what they say is a growing trend of atheism, especially among Egyptian youth.”

    That IS the future. The youth. Can’t stop them now. You can silence them, but you can’t make them think.



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  • The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact lasted from 1939 until 1941. That pact fell victim to paranoia (suspicion and grandiosity).

    This political alliance is based upon a mutual enthusiasm for ignorance, delusion, and oppression. Paranoia will be its downfall. – – – George Orwell would be amused.

    Successful alliances must be based upon higher moral principles. A lust for power and control is just not good enough.



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  • 12
    Miserablegit says:

    Muslims and Christians? That will end in tears for them and recriminations when they realise not always is my enemy’s enemy is my friend.



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  • Response – “Oh come all ye faithful” – Those atheist bastards will have our women enjoying sex and having expectations of multiple-orgasms from perversions like – oral sex – come on – lets cut off all their clitorises before such depravity destroys our misogynistic status-quo….



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  • @OP – aimed at forging a “scholarly response” to atheism,

    Theist “scholars” have spent centuries trying to look logical and reasonable, – while making attempts to square their triangular circles!

    The comedy would be splendid to watch, if it was not for the malicious mischief caused in the process!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Orthodox_Church_of_Alexandria
    The Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria is the official name for the largest Christian church in Egypt and the Middle East.

    It has been involved in theological splits and arguments about dogmas since the time of the Romans!



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    aquilacane says:

    The same response as always, violence. It’s the only response they have. There is no good argument for religion but fear and threat. Atheists are killed or arrested and locking someone up for their thoughts is violent.



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  • This could be the most splendid fiasco but a delight to the imagination anyway.

    They’ll sit down, start to discuss the problems caused by not believing in god, they’ll compare notes and realise they have different beliefs about god that cause problems and they’ll forget about atheists and kick each other’s arses out.



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  • Remember cognitive dissonance?

    I’m afraid these sort of questions will be the 5 ton elephant in the room that will never be discussed.

    No, instead it’ll be about ‘message’, and ‘community’, and ‘moral compass’ and all that sort of crap.

    Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit them hard and we hit them fast with a major – and I mean major – leaflet campaign, and while they’re reeling from that we’d follow up with a whist drive, a car boot sale, some street theatre and possibly even some benefit concerts.
    – Rear Admiral Lieutenant General A.J. Rimmer

    If only…



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  • 23
    old-toy-boy says:

    Egypt’s Muslim, Christian authorities unite against atheism

    One at a time or all together, – Bring it on!

    (for our American friends, that means stop wasting time and start, ya big pussy),
    My money is on the atheists.



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  • 24
    Katy Cordeth says:

    One at a time or all together, – Bring it on!

    My money is on the atheists.

    There are an estimated two million atheists out of a population of about eighty three million in Egypt.

    You’re not mixing up atheists and X-Men are you, old-toy-boy?



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  • According to a 2010 Pew Research poll, 84% of Egyptian Muslims polled supported the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion.[12] In November 2013, according to the al-Sabah newspaper, up to 3 million Egyptians (out of a population of 84 million) were atheists.[13]

    Seems likely the real number is far higher, given the ‘concern’ of the religious authorities…
    ‘coming out’ is obviously suicidal.



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  • This analogy only works if you can become an X-Man by adopting newer and better ideas.

    The real-world analogy would be putting your money on the first Christians.

    Now, Katy, contemplate the long-term effects of throwing the Atheists to the lions. Once the flames begin to catch, the wind will blow it higher.



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  • 34
    NearlyNakedApe says:

    You can blow out a candle, but you can’t blow out a fire. Once the flames begin to catch, the wind will blow it higher….

    “….Oh Biko…. Biko, Becau-au-ause Biko.”

    Peter Gabriel.

    Don’t mean to be a pest but you ought to mention the author when using a line that was written by someone else. You know, that “give credit where credit is due” thing?



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  • **
    Well now you can see there is no freedom of choice in Egypt,for religion or away from religion.all this is the result of a single idea thousands of years ago.how long is it going to take people’s that man created a god in his image,not the other way round,and that religious people were lied to long ago.even the pope finally admitted it was all a lie.remember to tell them this”just because there isn’t a god,that doesn’t mean you can do what you like”



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  • Mister Ape,
    Yes, at one time I did attribution for most things. Then I only did attribution for obscure things. Now, I rarely do attribution. I am letting the Google search engine serve as my bibliography. I find Google to be more fun than footnotes. Right away, Google will offer you the Youtube link to Peter Gabriel’s videos, among other things.

    Even if you had never heard the song, you would recognize the excerpt as poetry and then Google can do the rest.

    Praise Google!



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  • Can’t think of one single better means of spreading the good news of atheism than religions getting together to admit there is a problem. The revelation is that heaven and hell have always been right here on earth and the choice is still ours… no middle man (or god) necessary.



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  • This is like the oil and coal industry “drafting a constructive mechanism” to address climate change. With their billions of dollars, they have failed to convince anyone (well, maybe some Republicans) that climate change is a hoax.

    I predict these in-duh-viduals will fail, too.



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  • Isn’t it interesting that since the overthrow of the “democratically” elected Morsi government, which seemed determined to pursue the policies of the Brotherhood of Islam, a coup d’etat which went almost without protest in the western media, the USA is prepared to give the Eygptian military $575m of aid ! Uncle Sam pays out

    No argument in Congress or the Senate, just give them the money and let them do their stuff. All this crap about atheism, – just a bloody pillow fight among the “scholars”



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  • @OP – His statements came following a two-day conference, organized jointly between the Al-Azhar and the church, aimed at forging a “scholarly response” to atheism, which, Halim said, had been “spreading increasingly” in Egypt over the past three years.

    This is merely a smoke screen behind which to hide the pretence of “interfaith consensus”!

    Such gestures are temporary and transitory!
    As soon as any matters of material substance a put on the agenda, the conflicting dogmatic forms of “faith-thinking” will inflexibly clash as usual, with their zealots attacking each other on the streets.



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