Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter loses tax incentive

Dec 11, 2014

By Dan Arel

It looks like we sunk the ship!

According to the Courier-Journal the Kentucky Tourism, Arts and Heritage Cabinet has said the theme park has evolved into a ministry that seeks to advance religion and is discriminating against employees.

“State tourism tax incentives cannot be used to fund religious indoctrination or otherwise be used to advance religion,” Tourism Secretary Bob Stewart wrote in the letter. “The use of state incentives in this way violates the separation of church and state provisions of the Constitution and is therefore impermissible.”

The organization denied any wrongdoing however, a stance hard to defend when the Ark Encounters own website says,

“The purpose of the Ark Encounter is to point people to the only means of salvation from sin, the Lord Jesus Christ, who also is the only God-appointed way to escape eternal destruction.”


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32 comments on “Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter loses tax incentive

  • If the Turks had a sense of humor, they’d quickly erect something like this (all that would be needed is an outer shell) somewhere halfway up Mount Ararat. The reactions from religious people who spend a lot of time on Google Earth would be hilarious.



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  • I like this idea. Like Operation Fortitude before D-Day, when the allies created false armies in the east of England to fool the Germans. What we need is a blow up Ark, that is rolled out just prior to the next satellite pass that is going to be used for Google Earth, then take it away. How long would it take before it was claimed as a sign from god by the religious or for conspiracy theories to take hold. Like crop circles that are now an entire industry, even though the creators had admitted they were faked. Make a documentary to be shown 2 years later.



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  • David R Allen Dec 11, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    I like this idea. Like Operation Fortitude before D-Day, when the allies created false armies in the east of England to fool the Germans. What we need is a blow up Ark, that is rolled out just prior to the next satellite pass that is going to be used for Google Earth, then take it away. How long would it take before it was claimed as a sign from god by the religious or for conspiracy theories to take hold.

    If this is based on fairy-tales, – it should at least be original fairy-tales for which there is some evidence!

    http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/01/24/was-the-ark-round-a-babylonian-description-discovered/
    When the gods decided to wipe out mankind with a flood, the god Enki, who had a sense of humour, leaked the news to a man called Atra-hasis, the ‘Babylonian Noah,’ who was to build the Ark. Atra-hasis’s Ark, however was round.

    The new tablet also describes the materials and the measurements to build it: quantities of palm-fibre rope, wooden ribs and bathfuls of hot bitumen to waterproof the finished vessel. The result was a traditional coracle, but the largest the world had ever dreamed of, with an area of 3,600 sq. metres (equivalent to two-thirds the area of a football pitch), and six-metre high walls. The amount of rope prescribed, stretched out in a line, would reach from London to Edinburgh!

    To anyone who has the typical image learnt from children’s toys and book illustrations in mind, a round Ark is bizarre at first, but, on reflection, the idea makes sense. A waterproofed coracle would never sink and being round isn’t a problem – it never had to go anywhere: all it had to do was float and keep the contents safe: a cosmic lifeboat. Palm-and-pitch coracles had been seen on the Euphrates and Tigris rivers since time immemorial: they were still a common sight on Iraq’s great waterways in the 1950s.



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  • A waterproofed coracle would never sink and being round isn’t a problem – it never had to go anywhere:

    This is even better. Forget the Ark. Build an huge inflatable coracle and get that put on Google Earth. That would upset the fundamentalists. How would they explain away the fact that it matches the Babylonian creation myth, instead of the christian one. Mass conversions to worship of Atra-hasis?



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  • David R Allen Dec 11, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    There is another link here commenting on Ham’s reaction to the circular ark story and his laughable disputing of the archaeology!

    http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/babylonian-tale-round-ark-draws-ire-christian-circles-n20441

    .Which came first?

    Finkel said the account of the flood and the ark was probably passed along to the Jews during their Babylonian exile in the 6th century B.C. and served as the basis for the Genesis story. Biblical Archaeology Review’s Noah Wiener said the cuneiform tablet was created “a full millennium before the Genesis narrative was written down.”

    But Ken Ham, who founded Answers in Genesis-U.S. and is trying to raise $73 million to build a full-scale replica of Noah’s Ark in Kentucky, says it must have been the other way around: The true account must have come first in Genesis, and was corrupted by the time the Babylonians set down their details on the Ark Tablet.

    “Because the Bible is God’s inspired Word, it gives us the true account,” Ham wrote. “The other flood legends are man’s changed versions of the event called Noah’s Flood, which occurred close to 4,400 years ago!”

    Fans of Ham’s Facebook page took up the argument and rejected Finkel’s claims. “This is just another clever attempt from Satan to try to disprove or distort the existence of the ark,” one said. Another wrote, “A round ark would have sunk.”

    So remember!
    The bible is TRrrrooo, because Ham says it is trrrooo, so it must be trrrroooo! (YEC “logic”)!



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  • “The purpose of the Ark Encounter is to point people to the only means of salvation from sin, the Lord Jesus Christ, who also is the only God-appointed way to escape eternal destruction.”

    Nope!

    The purpose of “Ark Encounter” is to have lots of mug-punters spend tens of thousands of their hard earned dollars buying Ham’s junk bonds!



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  • David;

    When the IRS removes tax exemptions for all religious organizations,
    we will be getting closer to a free market for ideas.

    Alan;

    The purpose of “Ark Encounter” is to have lots of mug-punters spend
    tens of thousands of their hard earned dollars buying Ham’s junk
    bonds!

    This whole system is attracting the criminals. I knew someone through my brother in law who went from scam to scam and ended up making a great living from two charity shops.

    A bit old but not much has changed: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-387195/The-great-charity-shop-con.html



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  • Why should taxpayers in general be subsiding a fantasy theme park? If so, why does not Disney get it or the KKK?

    The intent of tax breaks it no help fund those who perform charitable acts the government is too busy or too poor to do itself. Running a themepark cannot be classified as such an act.



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  • Stafford Gordon Dec 12, 2014 at 5:15 am

    Bloody ridiculous!

    That’s the result of the faith-thinking process!
    They’re going to need quite a few more thick short plants contributing, to go further with this white elephant!!



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  • “Faith-thinking”? Oxymoron; operative syllable “moron”.

    I dare say there are quite a few members of the Arts and Heritage Cabinet, and indeed other kinds committees, who profoundly wish that the ark myth was true; and some, that it is!

    Perhaps that’s why it took so long to deal with Ham.



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  • Poor Ken. On the link @Alan4discussion posted he first says “The other flood legends are man’s changed versions of the event called Noah’s Flood, which occurred close to 4,400 years ago!” then he turns to blaming Satan. Can´t even stay consistent on whether it´s people or some ancient evil who have changed the story.

    Think if christians will still exist a couple of hundred years from now: Most of their claims are already disproven, then pretty much all of their claims will have been disproven beyond any doubt, so they´re going to have to use that “Satan´s misleading” a lot. 🙂



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  • Why did it take them so long…

    Double trouble: ’tis difficult to catch a greased pig, and, “indict this particular ham sandwich.



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  • Tiina Dec 12, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Poor Ken. On the link @Alan4discussion posted he first says “The other flood legends are man’s changed versions of the event called Noah’s Flood, which occurred close to 4,400 years ago!

    Apart from all the river-floods, collapsing earth and ice-dams, and landslides, as the ice caps melted, the sea level rose over two hundred feet at the end of the last ice-age (between 12,000 years ago and 6,000 years ago), so there are stories of local floods all over the world, as estuaries and coastal plains flooded. (North Sea, Black Sea Basin etc.)
    Then there was the Mediterranean tsunami from the Thera / Santorini eruption 3,500 years ago!

    http://www.livescience.com/4846-eruption-thera-changed-world.html

    Historians and archaeologists have had trouble deciding on the year Thera erupted, with dates ranging anywhere from 1645 BC to 1500 BC. Studies of ash deposits on the ocean floor have revealed, however, that when the volcano did blow, it did so with a force dwarfing anything humans had ever seen or have seen since.

    There are no first-person accounts of what happened that day, but scientists can compare it to the detailed records available from the famous eruption of Krakatoa, Indonesia, in 1883.

    That fiery explosion killed upwards of 40,000 people in just a few hours, produced colossal tsunamis 40 feet tall, spewed volcanic ash across Asia, and caused a drop in global temperatures and created strangely colored sunsets for three years. The blast was heard 3,000 miles away.

    Thera’s eruption was four or five times more powerful than Krakatoa, geologists believe, exploding with the energy of several hundred atomic bombs in a fraction of a second.

    .. . . . . But this is just sciency stuff that Ham’s fans have by “faith”, identified as the work of the Devil!



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  • I remember a program that explained it through the tectonic plates and the fault line that runs through the Strait of Gibraltar and that coinciding with the dates but can’t find anything on it. Was that bull?



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  • Olgun Dec 12, 2014 at 11:28 am

    I remember a program that explained it through the tectonic plates and the fault line that runs through the Strait of Gibraltar and that coinciding with the dates but can’t find anything on it. Was that bull?

    No its not bull, but you would need Hamster dating to involve humans in the event.

    http://www.livescience.com/10607-colossal-flood-created-mediterranean-sea.html

    The Mediterranean Sea as we know it today formed about 5.3 million years ago when Atlantic Ocean waters breached the strait of Gibraltar, sending a massive flood into the basin.

    Geologists have long known that the Mediterranean became isolated from the world’s oceans around 5.6 million years ago, evaporating almost completely in the hundreds of thousands of years that followed.

    Scientists also largely agree that the Mediterranean basin was refilled when the movements of Earth’s crustal plates caused the ground around the Gibraltar Strait to subside, allowing the ocean waters of the Atlantic to cut through the rock separating the two basins and refill the sea.

    A new study that used seismic data and holes drilled into the rock at the strait revealed that the ocean water cut a 124-mile- (200-kilometer-) long channel across the strait over the course of several thousand years.



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  • @OP – The organization denied any wrongdoing however, a stance hard to defend when the Ark Encounters own website says, . . . . . . .

    Unfortunately for Ham, the tax authorities don’t accept “wish-thinking accountancy”, any more for Hammy arks, than they did for Hovind!



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  • @Olgun

    There is mounting evidence that the Black Sea suffered a massive flood around 5300BC when the Bosporus Straights were breached and the Mediterranean Sea flooded in. This is possible a seed for an oral story being passed down, and then converted into the mythical religious flood stories in Babylon, later plagiarized into the Old Testament. Gods were the standard explanation for anything unexplainable back then, and still by some fundamentalist Americans today.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis



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  • David R Allen Dec 12, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    There is mounting evidence that the Black Sea suffered a massive flood around 5300BC when the Bosporus Straights were breached and the Mediterranean Sea flooded in.

    There was a submerged shoreline of a freshwater lake and one or two (at present) underwater fossil beaches indicating extended periods of lower water levels than the present sea-level. It is possible there were successive floods.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/090206-smaller-noah-flood.html

    New Flood Evidence

    Marine geologist Liviu Giosan and colleagues carbon-dated the shells of pristine mollusk fossils, which the researchers say bear no evidence of epic flooding.

    Found in sediment samples taken from where the Black Sea meets the Danube River, the shells “weren’t eroded, agitated, or moved,” said Giosan, of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute in Massachusetts. “We know the mud is exactly the same age as the shells and so can determine what the sea level was about 9,400 years ago.”

    The results suggest the Black Sea rose 15 to 30 feet (5 to 10 meters), rather than the 150 to 195 feet (50 to 60 meters) first suggested 13 years ago by Columbia University geologist William Ryan and colleagues. Ryan declined to be interviewed for this story.

    Dueling Theories of Noah’s Flood

    In 1993 a Black Sea expedition found evidence of former shorelines and coastal dunes at depths of up to 390 feet (120 meters).

    Researchers said these areas had been flooded when the Mediterranean and the Sea of Marmara—which lies between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea—breached a rocky barrier across the Bosporus, the Turkish strait that links the Maramara with the Black Sea.

    The National Geographic has done at least two articles on this in different magazines.

    Fresh water lakes and inland seas, have coastal herdsmen / farms, and fishing boats, – so given a bit of exaggeration, there could have been some rescue of animals told as a story for children. – Even one mixed up later with the earlier giant round coracle one!



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  • That would be why he’s doing it in the U.S., more suckers, less government interference, better chance for taxpayer subsidy actually !
    Remember, this is the country where people believe their personal opinion carries as much weight, or more if based on ” holy books”, as evidence.



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  • Well this is progress. This means that religion is loosing ground. On the grounds that god is an illusion and therefore will not shelter you from taxes.

    So this basically says that since there is no proof of god, they can’t use that excuse to get tax money or to not pay taxes . So what good it god then ? See my point? No more scapegoat makes religion ever more useless…



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    mr.logic says:

    You only need SketchUp, which is free for personal use, to make a model ark and place it on Google Earth. It would be nice to see a few of them.



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