Answers in Genesis files lawsuit against Kentucky

Feb 6, 2015

By Dan Arel

Answers in Genesis announced today that have officially filed their lawsuit against the state of Kentucky for religious discrimination.

You can view the lawsuit here.

According to the AiG website:

Although the sales tax rebate program is available equally to all qualifying tourist attractions seeking to build in the state, AiG President Ken Ham observed that “AiG’s application was rejected solely because of our religious identity and the biblical messages we will present at our future life-size Noah’s Ark.” Ham also noted that AIG’s “lawsuit details how this action by Kentucky officials, including Gov. Steve Beshear [named as a defendant], violates federal and state law and undermines our constitutionally guaranteed religious freedom. It amounts tounlawful viewpoint discrimination against our Christian faith.

No where does Ham mention the employee discrimination that was the deciding factor against the tax incentive.


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22 comments on “Answers in Genesis files lawsuit against Kentucky

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    Anti-Christian groups objected to AiG’s statutory right to utilize a
    religious preference in its hiring practices (although such is
    expressly allowed by federal and state laws)…….. Bowing to this
    pressure, Gov. Beshear and other state officials announced a reversal
    on December 10, 2014.

    > Dan Arel

    No where does Ham mention the employee discrimination that was the
    deciding factor against the tax incentive.

    I’m all for doing him over, but it behoves us to be accurate.



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  • It’s probably going to be chucked out by the court. Lets hope Ham picks up the bill for the legal costs.

    There is an exceedingly slight possibility it just might teach him the difference between wishful-faith-thinking and competent reading of legal documents.

    On the other hand, there could be loud choruses of “The judges are wrong and Ham is martyr”, sung around the internet!

    It looks like Kent Hovind will be completing his first publicly funded “training course”, in Summer 2015!! http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind – But may need further sessions!!



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  • The suit a bogus. The denial is not because their are Christian. They could have the tax exemption if they simply stopped impinging on the religious freedom of others.



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  • 8
    Cairsley says:

    A wooden vessel of the size of Ken Ham’s ark might have held together on the waters of a flooded broad valley or plain, but it would certainly not have been seaworthy. On the open sea it would have been bent out of shape and broken up, especially if the sea it were sailing on were so vast it covered the whole planet! Thus, even before one even gets to mention that there was simply not enough water on the planet for such a scene, one cannot help but notice the lunacy of Mr Ham’s project. If what Mr Ham would have us believe really happened, Noah and his family, along with their biological cargo, would have perished and we would not be here to discuss it.

    The myth as told in the Book of Genesis actually makes more sense than Mr Ham’s version of it, for it presupposes a flat earth covered by a vast dome (the firmament), which held back the waters of chaos that swirled beyond it. In this worldview the story of the Flood makes sense, because in it the earth was much smaller than we now know it to be, and there was plenty of water around for God to let in from beyond the firmament to flood the earth. If Mr Ham wants to take the myth of the Flood so literally, he needs to explain the roundness of the earth, the absence of the firmament, and the absence of the waters of chaos, to mention but the most obvious discrepancies between the account he favors and more recent observations of the world.



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  • The size limit of wooden ships was realized in the 1850’s by American shipbuilders like Donald McKay, whose beautiful creations reached the limits of torsional rigidity, and quite quickly wrung their fastenings out. The famous “Flying Cloud” being an example.

    They maintained timber construction due to the availability of excellent material at a time when British shipbuilders were commencing composite construction, iron frames and teak outer planking, such as “Cutty Sark,” for exactly the same reason, in reverse, in that excellent timber was becoming less available.

    Chinese 9 masted junks, maybe 200 meters long purportedly made long voyages, if the events of 1421 can be given serious credence, which is highly disputable. These however would have been bulkheaded ships constructed in pinned sections. While archeological evidence of this technique exists, the size is doubtful, and their seaworthiness even more so.

    I mention this simply to point out the utter absurdity of a ship the size of the old testament Noah story, nearly 140 meters. What we know about classical shipbuilding from the period indicates the use of fibre lashings, a massive size limiter. Also, Ken Ham’s offering appears to have a rudder. This is a device that first appeared in China about 2,000 years ago, and did not reach Europe or the Middle East until about 1,000 years later. Before that, ships were steered by a specially designed vertical oar.

    Attempting to steer a ship the size of Noah’s by steering oar is simply ludicrous, and considering his apparent crew of seven, doubly, triply ludicrous.

    Not to mention, that with no means of propulsion, what earthly use is a rudder going to be, anyway?

    Ken’s ark also has what appears to be a timber decorating “figure head” or foil of some sort on the bow. This would act a a wind vane at the wrong end, ensuring that the wind swung the ship continually so it’s stern was always facing the waves, the worst nightmare for any mariner, especially with no propulsive power.

    If Yahweh designed this bloody mess, it is yet another instance of Him acted wildly beyond his level of competence. Of course, it could be just Ken’s whimsy, in which case he should leave the ship design to qualified experts, or it just looks sillier and sillier.



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  • Now what was it Jesus said about tax ? ” Render unto Caesar that which is his,” or something like that ! You’d think Ham would have some respect for the holy carpenter, but no !

    By their deeds shall ye judge them.



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  • In all fairness to Noah, this has possibly more to do with Ken Ham’s lack of ship design expertise, than that of Noah. After all, the conventional Noah’s ark of children’s books, is exactly that, the stuff of children’s books with occasional input from painters of the romantic era, now to be perpetuated in all its absurdity at full scale.

    Kentucky, a fine place in terms of blue grass and horses, is not actually a hub of shipbuilding excellence so the idiocy will not be noticed, I suspect.

    Another thing about the Noah story that amuses me is that even Ken accepts that quite a few people were involved in the construction of the ship, and these people apparently were not saved. It reminds me of an axiom in the ship and boatyard world: “The first turn of the screw pays all debts!”

    In this case it will be rephrased as “The citizens of Kentucky should pay all debts!”



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  • JC Sheepdog Feb 8, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    In all fairness to Noah, this has possibly more to do with Ken Ham’s lack of ship design expertise, than that of Noah. After all, the conventional Noah’s ark of children’s books, is exactly that, the stuff of children’s books with occasional input from painters of the romantic era, now to be perpetuated in all its absurdity at full scale.

    I heard somewhere, that Ken – using “faith-thinking”, had reinterpreted god’s plan, and “go-fer-wood” actually meant fetch some of that welded “ferric I-beam wood” to hold the structure together!



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  • This is of course the silly thing. Whatever form this “attraction” takes, it will be a public venue and will have to conform to a large body of public safety criteria, not the least being those relating to fire safety.

    This does tend to argue against wood in general, and gopher wood sealed with pitch in particular.



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  • 16
    bonnie says:

    What’s needed is a third party to permanently clamp down Ham’s fool’s errand.

    To wit, sic Robert Kennedy and his Environmental Defense Fund via lawsuits (e.g. defamation of wild spaces), effectively closing Ark Park with litigation. Nature will eventually recover – grasses, vines, and untold animals using the ark shell as shelter / nesting.



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  • JC Sheepdog Feb 9, 2015 at 4:32 am

    Whatever form this “attraction” takes, it will be a public venue and will have to conform to a large body of public safety criteria, not the least being those relating to fire safety.

    This does tend to argue against wood in general, and gopher wood sealed with pitch in particular.

    Even where care has been taken to preserve extremely valuable wooden ships, the traditional danger of fire remains.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark
    The ship has been damaged by fire twice in recent years. Firstly on 21 May 2007 while undergoing conservation. She has since been restored and was reopened to the public on 25 April 2012.[4] Secondly, on 19 October 2014 it suffered minor damages in a smaller fire



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  • What I have difficulty comprehending is why does Ken Ham need to make this so complicated. Let’s try this on:

    A farmer long ago faced with a rising local flood builds a raft of some sort to save his family and best breeding livestock. This is believable.

    Many, maybe most, all even, of the others in his locale die in the flood. This too is believable.

    The farmer, with little or nor surviving competition and a community largely of his own descendents, becomes a self appointed leader of his local area. So far so good.

    To reinforce his authority, he invokes a “god” as being on his side. Hardly an uncommon strategy.

    Story tellers working for their boss add details and hyperbole, including doves, extend the time involved, and add lots more animals. This is a phenomenon familiar to Australians pondering the relationship of Rupert Murdoch and our PM, so still, no problem.

    Then, the exploits of the local leader get written down in a book, which the local leader determines to be holy. The Murdoch press / Abbott parallel is again to obvious to be ignored.

    Time passes, a lot of time, during which no one seriously questions how this simple thing became so absurdly distorted, probably because the ruling clique has remained in power in some manifestation or other of its original self, and has become very effective at destroying competition by any means. Over the period this has resulted in massive destruction and human misery.

    Switch to the present, and we can now answer the original question. A charlatan of Australian origin, no, not Abbott this time, sees the massively embroidered and enhanced story as being a money spinner for him, especially since he thinks other deluded people will kick in the cash to get it off the ground.



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