Irish Catholics Could Change History by Voting for Marriage Equality This Week

May 18, 2015

Photo Illustration by Emil Lendof/The Daily Beast

By JP O’ Malley

Marriage for same sex couples is presently legally recognized in 17 countries across the globe, as well as a number of U.S. states. On May 22, the Irish electorate will be asked to make world history: becoming the first country, ever, to pass a referendum where citizens democratically decide to guarantee same-sex marriage in its constitution.

The proposed amendment applies to Article 41 of the Irish Constitution. And it wants to insert the following line: “Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex.”

In layman’s terms, this means that a marriage between two people of the same sex will have identical rights under the Irish Constitution that a marriage between a man and a woman currently has.

Married couples of either the opposite sex, or the same sex, will thus be entitled to equal constitutional protection for families, if the amendment is passed.

For a state that was, up until the early 1990s, a de-facto theocracy, this is a pretty big deal.


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18 comments on “Irish Catholics Could Change History by Voting for Marriage Equality This Week

  • 1
    NearlyNakedApe says:

    The equality trend is gaining momentum across the world and even those who are against it say it is inevitable. I hope the Irish Catholics vote for progress and freedom and further erode the fading power of the RCC.



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  • I hope this goes thru because Ireland has come so far in ditching the RCC and moving towards equality. The churches are empty these days.

    However responses after the death of Savita Halapannavar, the woman who died after being denied a termination, show that some of the old guard remain. And, surprisingly, that old guard gets a lot of support from The US religious who still like to see Ireland as the religious ideal.

    My wonderful great uncle suffered so much guilt in that country because he was gay. Yet he was kind and charitable and, bizarrely, a very devout catholic. Yet he was still made to feel he was wrong in some way.



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    Cairsley says:

    The worrying figure in the recent Millward-Brown poll cited in the article is the 23% who said “they don’t know”, despite the clear majority of 53% who were happy to say they favored marriage equality. In the voting-booth some of the 53% and many of the 23% may well feel the weight of ancient and hallowed tradition and find themselves unable to gainsay it when faced with the actual responsibility of voting. So I await the outcome of the vote with very cautious hope, that the Irish will take yet another step to free themselves from overseas masters and from the all-too-human infection, superstition.



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  • Lets hope the Irish people vote with their brains open and attuned to secular truth, rather than religious dogma! I’ll sink a few pint’s of Liffey water in a toast to sanity if they accept the amendment!



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  • To a Christian Bigot

    Basically the only reason you have to harm homosexuals is that your bible says to. However, it has thousands of other sins listed — many capital crimes. Yet you single out only one of them, and oddly, a sin you conveniently do not commit. Jesus told you not to do that. You are supposed to focus on your own sins. Yet you ignore all your own sins, including the capital ones. What you are doing is bigotry, not Christianity. You are a first class hypocrite.



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  • The Irish example is heartening as it shows just how fast a country can break free of seemingly solid religious shackles. Here’s hoping they take another step forward on the 22nd. Quite aside from being the right thing, marriage equality is a real slap in the face for religion because it’s one of the issues it really takes a stand on. There are few issues that so directly reject religious authority.



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  • Why doesn’t this article just say the Irish people? Does it assume we are all catholics? We are not all catholics. There are a lot of non-believers here in Ireland as well as other religions. Also,the official “NO” side have not used religious arguments to back any of their claims due to the fact they would look ridiculous. They are however using everything they can possibly muster to scaremonger whoever they can into voting no. But,for the record,the blasphemy law ,that was passed by a group of government bigots here was supposed to be included in this referendum,but somehow didn’t cut the mustard has never been acted upon. We also have to vote on whether to bring the age of a persons eligibility to run for president down from 35 to 21. ? . This, is a puppet show in my opinion. Just a gap filler that pretty much no-one gives a flying f#*k about. There are a lot of people in government who aren’t that smart,and they assume the general public are far more stupid than they are. Anyway,hoping for a YES vote regardless.Wish us luck. In fact PRAY for us.It’ll make all the difference. You know that right? 😉



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    NearlyNakedApe says:

    Hope you don’t mind if I don’t pray for you 😉 but I certainly wish you the best of luck. Keep us posted on the results Mr. Brain.



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  • It looks like the vote will approve the constitutional amendment!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32856232
    Early indications suggest the Republic of Ireland has voted to legalise same-sex marriage in a historic referendum.

    More than 3.2m people were asked whether they wanted to amend the country’s constitution to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry.

    Government ministers have said they believe it will pass, while prominent “no” campaigners have conceded defeat.

    Counting started at 09:00 BST on Saturday morning. An “unusually high” turnout has been reported.

    A result is expected by mid to late afternoon on Saturday.

    If the change is approved, the Republic of Ireland would become the first country to legalise same-sex marriage through a popular vote.

    Minister for Equality Aodhan O Riordain said on Twitter: “I’m calling it. Key boxes opened. It’s a yes. And a landslide across Dublin. And I’m so proud to be Irish today.”

    One thing it could show, is that sheeple nay-sayers are fewer than their levels of noise might indicate!

    Their spokes persons, while avoiding blatant religious claims, seem have been wheeling out the usual bigotry, under the guise of “morality”, about surrogacy, invitrio embryos, artificial insemination, simplistic Catholic notions of what is a “normal family”, etc.



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  • Looking good Alan4discussion 🙂 I was waiting to see how the rural areas and particularly those in the West voted.

    Dublin was always going to be resounding yes. The rural east coast a yes but with a smaller majority but now it’s looking like the rural west coast has said yes as well. That is hugely significant!!

    Now all Ireland has to do is tackle it’s approach to women.



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  • Its looking very good indeed. What is really heartening is the size of the turnout. People care about this stuff.

    There is a palm-smack-forehead, but of course, quality to it. Why didn’t we see it before? Reason often works that way. Dogma dies swiftly in individual heads when it dies.

    A nine year old slipped an unofficial vote into the ballot box. It was yes, of course.



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  • The official announcement confirms a yes vote!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32858501

    Huge Ireland vote for gay marriage

    .The Republic of Ireland has voted overwhelmingly to legalise same-sex marriage in a historic referendum.

    More than 62% voted in favour of amending the country’s constitution to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry.

    It is the first country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage through a popular vote.

    The referendum was held 22 years after homosexual acts were decriminalised in the Republic of Ireland.



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  • While the focus of the yes campaign has been on equality, there is probably an element of backlash against the earlier Catholic theocracy dictating to people how to run their lives, and the scandals of Catholic and Vatican cover-ups of abuses.
    There were acrimonious earlier disputes about divorce, and the subject of abortion in Ireland, is yet to move into the 21st century.

    While the success is to be welcomed, holding referenda could set a bad precedent.
    There are still many countries where theocratic bigotry is rife, and where very perverse results could be produced from referenda.

    I still see referenda as a way for politicians to duck responsibility for seeking the best advice available and making decisions in the public interest.
    Apparently all the Irish political parties were in favour of a “yes” vote anyway, so the main benefit of a referendum over a political decision, is that it is more difficult for dogmatic nay-sayers to delay implementation by using challenges in the courts.

    Nevertheless – expect the howlings of dogmatists to begin, now that their “infallible” delusional preconceptions have been dumped!



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    aroundtown says:

    Irish Catholics Could Change History by Voting for Marriage Equality This Week

    Done deal. Ireland has taken a giant step away from superstition and suppression. Good for them, I am happy for them.



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  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32862824

    Church in Ireland needs ‘reality check’ after gay marriage vote

    .One of Ireland’s most senior Catholic clerics has called for the Church to take a “reality check” following the country’s overwhelming vote in favour of same-sex marriage.

    The first gay marriages are now likely to take place in the early autumn.

    Diarmuid Martin, the archbishop of Dublin, said the Church in Ireland needed to reconnect with young people.

    The archbishop voted ‘No’ in the referendum

    The archbishop told the broadcaster RTE: “We [the Church] have to stop and have a reality check, not move into denial of the realities.

    “We won’t begin again with a sense of renewal, with a sense of denial.

    Of course, the RCC does not do “scientific material reality”! – Just shuffles to attempt to look credible while peddling the usual woo!

    Meanwhile: – Veneration of the two new Palestinian saints will now be encouraged by the Vatican among Catholics around the world, and Archbishop Romero is declared a saint. He was shot dead by a sniper as he celebrated Mass in a hospital chapel.

    More performers of “miracles” promoting the pilgrimage trade! ! !



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