This time, Jerry Brown makes no mention of religion in vaccine signing

Jul 3, 2015

by David Siders

Three years ago, in a relatively mild precursor to this year’s school vaccination bill, Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation requiring parents to consult a health professional before declining vaccinations for their schoolchildren.

But he made a special case for people who objected on religious grounds.

In a signing statement at the time, Brown said he wanted the law administered in such a way that “parents are not overly burdened by its implementation,” and he directed his Department of Public Health to ensure “people whose religious beliefs preclude vaccinations” were exempt.

Three years later, the vaccine bill Brown signed Tuesday undoes that allowance and more, eliminating the state’s religious and personal belief exemptions altogether.

California will now have one of the strictest schoolchild vaccination laws in the country.


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19 comments on “This time, Jerry Brown makes no mention of religion in vaccine signing

  • These people do not understand.

    they do not own children. They don’t have the right to kill them, any more than they have the right to burn them with cigarettes.
    their actions affect everyone’s children. They most certainly do not have the right to kill other people’s children.
    doctors have determined the benefits outweigh the risks for various vaccines. Christians nitwits are not as expert as doctors.



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  • My Child, My Choice

    Presumably she just wants the best for her child, in which case she is actually demonstrating her ignorance of medical science, a disregard for ‘herd immunity’, and for the right of her child to, possibly, die of a preventable infectious disease.

    The bugs don’t care about her bloody ‘rights’.



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  • Banner @OP –
    “FREEDOM OF CHOICE MATTERS –

    EDUCATE DON’T DISCRIMINATE”

    Followed by:-

    NO ON SB277

    Educating the “know-it-all-ignorant”, and the prospect of waiting for them to learn, while children become sick and die, means that after education has been unsuccessfully tried on closed minds, enforcement is needed.

    I am reminded of the words of wisdom from a Director of Education.

    “Regulations are for the guidance of sages, and the instruction of idiots!”



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  • 8
    BrainDrain says:

    What a shame that children don’t have any choice when it comes to their parents.
    I’ve always rather liked the quote from Kahlil Gibran’s, “The Prophet” which goes something like:
    Your children are not your children.
    They come through you, not from you
    And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.



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  • …my choice

    With that logic, it should be perfectly fine to give a young child a very sharp knife to bring to the playground, and if anything happens, the parent wouldn’t be responsible.



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  • What a fucked up country…
    I´m glad I was born abroad… in a civilized country… located in Europe… that provides Good education… Good health care… Daam i feel so luky….



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  • I think she’s laying claim to the ownership of every child her biological child comes into contact with, directly or via a third party. otherwise the sign is utterly absurd and suggests some people have not earned the right to make choices, let alone have children



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  • SaganTheCat
    Jul 6, 2015 at 8:46 am

    I think she’s laying claim to the ownership of every child her biological child comes into contact with, directly or via a third party.

    I think it is more likely, that she is too bigoted, ignorant and blinkered, to look outside of her ego-sphere! –
    Me! me! me! and MY faith-thinking feelings, which must not be offended by people who recognise that those focussed on stupid self-centred decisions, should not be taking decisions on behalf of the wider community!

    “Freedom of choice matters”

    . . . But not half as much as COMPETENCE OF CHIOCE!



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  • 13
    Andrew says:

    every child should have every possible vaccination if they are able to have them. and not getting your child vaccinated should be a form of child abuse



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  • Meanwhile, on a wider issue!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32887567
    An estimated 59,000 people die every year from the deadly rabies virus.

    Almost all of these deaths are the result of being bitten by an infected domestic dog. Avoiding these bites is an obvious solution. But how easy is it to spot a rabid dog?

    Think of rabies and an image of a snarling dog, frothing at the mouth, probably comes to mind. But it is often not that straightforward.

    A dog could have rabies or it could be angry. To the untrained eye, it is sometimes hard to tell.

    An aggressive rabid dog has the furious form of the disease, but there is also a form called dumb, or paralytic, rabies.

    Dogs in that state are often weak and lose co-ordination, so they do not appear as a threat but are just as deadly as the hostile animals.

    If a person is bitten they can get post-exposure vaccine, but in poor countries this is often in short supply, meaning many people are not fortunate enough to receive it.

    Once rabies symptoms start to show, a person is almost certain to die. But even then, rabies can be confused with other serious illnesses such as cerebral malaria or meningitis.

    Clearly, dog vaccination campaigns are the most effective way of reducing rabies cases in both dogs and humans, making them a vital tool in eradicating the disease.

    The US and the UK have successfully introduced such campaigns, but in poorer countries it is a different story.

    Mission Rabies is a charity tackling the problem in Blantyre, southern Malawi. It aims to vaccinate up to 40,000 dogs; an estimated 70% of the local dog population.

    According to recommendations from the World Health Organisation, this is the number needed for the disease eventually to be eradicated from the dog population – a concept called herd immunity.

    “Each rabid dog might only infect just over one other, so it doesn’t spread like a huge outbreak, but it just spreads slowly in the population,” explains Kate Shervell, International Director of Mission Rabies.

    “So by vaccinating 70%, the chances of a rabid dog biting a vaccinated dog is greater than [it biting] an unvaccinated dog.

    “That’s how it creates a barrier to the disease spread, and eventually the disease dies out,” she adds.



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  • 17
    NearlyNakedApe says:

    Your children are not your children.

    They come through you, not from you

    And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.

    Like!

    And it might have included a fourth verse along the lines of…

    “And though they belong not to you, you are responsible for their well-being regardless.”

    Ignorance of what is truly good for them or not isn’t an excuse. It is the parent’s duty to seek information and learn what is good for them. Failing at this is an act of abuse towards them regardless of what caused the failure: ignorance, stupidity, laziness, conformity, you name it!!

    None of these reasons are valid because your child will in every case be the victim of your failure.



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  • 18
    NearlyNakedApe says:

    I remember with fondness the years of my childhood back in the sixties when none of this nonsense existed. Vaccinating your child wasn’t an issue. Parents just did it. End of story. It seems that now in the 21st century we have inexplicably gone backwards as a species when it comes to just plain common sense.

    This is why I find the resurgence of woo and quackery in what are essentially educated, secular societies so depressing!! People seem to be filling the hole left by religious belief with woo. There is something deeply ingrained in the human psyche to believe in the supernatural.

    Magical thinking poisons everything. Education is the antidote but many people refuse to take it because they believe that the antidote is the poison… or they’re just too lazy to bother trying.



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  • It seems that now in the 21st century we have inexplicably gone backwards as a species when it comes to just plain common sense.

    I share your nostalgia, Apeman. Woo and quackery probably drive the trend as much if not more than religion. In 1970 when my wife started teaching elementary school, she knew a new mom who would let no one except herself hold the child out of fear of “germs,” not even her own sister or the child’s grandparents. “Her” child was not going to get sick Fast forward to today and I still encounter eccentric moms who enforce the precaution.

    Bombarded by media with a surfeit of unqualified Health news, it’s no wonder that we’ve all become a little paranoid over the disease of the week, epidemic scares, flesh eating bacteria, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, hygiene and dietary warnings. (Remember our recent rumble over gluten? Oops!).

    The layperson, conditioned by news cycles with incessant health alerts and alarms, cannot separate fact from fiction, understand context, or calculate risk. Many become health nuts obsessed with micromanaging every possible risk to health.

    The latest anti-vaccine movement was launched by a pseudo scientific study that linked MMR immunization to autism. At once understandable but infuriating, the over-protective mother has proven most susceptible to the hysteria. She has clawed back against science like a tigress defending her cub. It’s disturbing to watch the caring, loving motives of mothers so dreadfully corrupted by ignorance and pseudo-science.



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