A terrorist attack has happened in Europe. Let the standard response begin…

Mar 22, 2016

Photo credit: The Spectator

By Douglas Murray

Well at least we all know the form by now.  This morning Islamist suicide-bombers struck one of the few European capitals they haven’t previously hit in a mass-casualty terrorist attack.

The standard response now goes as follows.  First the body parts of innocent people are flung across airport check-ins or underground trains.  Briefly there is some shock.  On social media the sentimentalists await the arrival of this atrocity’s cutesy hashtag or motif and hope it will tide them over until the piano man arrives at the scene of the attack to sing ‘Imagine there’s no countries’.  Meantime someone will hopefully have said something which a lot of people can condemn as ‘inappropriate’.  I see that the Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson was this morning’s Twitter miscreant, foolish enough to say in the wake of the Brussels attack that the EU might not make us very safe.  One may agree or disagree with this sentiment, but Ms Pearson should have known that the only acceptable thing to do after a suicide bomber detonates beside the European Commission is to acclaim the Commission as one of the few entities able to keep us safe.

We will shortly move to the next phase, which is to find a good news story amid the rubble.  Anything will do, but best of all is a Muslim good news story.  After Paris it was swiftly reported that one of the suicide bombers at Stade de France had been turned away by a brave Muslim security guard.  The story whizzed around the world before anyone could check whether it was true.  It wasn’t.  But people needed it to be.  Not because Muslims don’t do good deeds, but because in the wake of any Islamist terrorist attack people need people opposed to the bombers to be Muslim and the bombers themselves not to be Muslim.  Then the good Muslim can represent Islam while the bad Muslims can be said to have nothing to do with it.

Soon we will move to the next phase, during which broadcast media will ask questions that address no major points.  So in the UK the government’s Communications Data Bill will get quite a lot of mentions.  We will probably also have another round of the old discussion about Control Orders versus TPIMs.  This will most likely be first raised by a Labour politician hoping to look tough. Everywhere on the media people will start to talk of ‘radicalisation’ as though it is something you can get from the water, and experts will claim insight into the ‘paths to extremism’.  Nicky Morgan will announce that the Prevent agenda should be extended to encompass pre-kindergarten.  A year later she will close some Quaker-run nursery.

Meanwhile other people will change the subject over to the question of Belgium’s unacceptably interventionist foreign policy.  Others will get onto Israel-Palestine.  At around the same time the Corbynite-wing of the Labour party will get onto their favourite subject which is not dead bodies in airports but people who have been looked at meanly on a bus while wearing a headscarf.  By at least tomorrow the story of a savage ‘backlash’ (consisting mainly of stares and horrible things written on social media) will be being talked-up by all mainstream Muslim leaders.  By Thursday no one will be talking about the victims.


Source: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/

32 comments on “A terrorist attack has happened in Europe. Let the standard response begin…

  • Terrorists pick capital cities for their atrocities:

    a) because it produces a large impact on politicians who might be more detached from events,

    b) It is easy to hide in the densely crowded multicultural population, which also provides a rich target over extended periods, with numerous potential victims.

    c) The anonymity and multitude of business activities, provides cover which makes surveillance difficult.

    Belgium, while not a high profile state in terms of world politics, has Brussels, which IS one of the European parliamentary centres of government.



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  • 2
    Pinball1970 says:

    Douglas Murray is one of the most honest and concise reporters when it comes to the problem of Islam.
    The article is spot on and of course completely unpalatable to main stream media.
    Islam and that book are a problem, the whole concept is completely incompatible with western values at the risk of the mods noting yet another drum banging post from me I will leave that point there.

    Murray touched on an important point, radicalization.

    According to the BBC 20 minutes on you tube and few face book posts can take a completely fun loving, cheerful westernized teenager and turn them into a Syria bound, IS fighter or bride.

    This is of course complete bullshit, to make that sort of step take years of deep rooted, anti west and anti Semitic ideology continually stated and reinforced.

    There is hardly a mention of those sort of influences that would have been implanted and nurtured at home, in the Mosque, in the faith school, or from the community in the whole.

    Maajid Nawaz recognizes the problems and is prepared to openly discuss them, his one goal is to find peace, a truly brave man considering his position.

    How to find peace in all this when we are clearly at war, to me right now seems impossible.

    Another dark day, dead bodies, meaningless platitudes from muslim leaders and that misunderstood religion of peace.



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  • @ OP

    All of what you listed and thank Thor it happens. It is the checks and safety nets of overreaction and misinformation. To suggest any restrictions on the conversation and to concentrate on any one incident is wrong.



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    therealclimber says:

    We often hear how some Muslims have helped the victims of such attacks as way to suggest that Islam isn’t the problem. What’s left out is the fact that many Muslim perpetrators hurt their victims because of their religion and that Muslim responders help the victims in spite of their religion. Fortunately, that last part gives me hope. It shows that many are willing to help those around them despite what their book says.



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  • therealclimber #4
    Mar 23, 2016 at 11:47 am

    We often hear how some Muslims have helped the victims of such attacks as way to suggest that Islam isn’t the problem. What’s left out is the fact that many Muslim perpetrators hurt their victims because of their religion and that Muslim responders help the victims in spite of their religion.

    We also need to remember that in addition to “infidel victims”, many of the victims in majority Islamic countries, are victims because they are the “wrong” denomination of Muslims, (Shia, Sunni, Kharijites, ‎Ahmadiyya.) just as in the Irish troubles, there were victims who were the “wrong” denomination of Christians!
    In “religions of peace”, the “fellowship of peace” does not extend very far from core dogmatists!



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  • I saw today that a fire started at the mosque near where I live in the UK.
    It didn’t look like an accident. The fire brigade and police attended and it was all over in about 5 minutes.
    However this doesn’t bode well for the future.
    A few more attacks and it could start to get quite nasty in the other direction. It must be the last thing most decent Muslims will want. But unfortunately there are those who will be very quick to jump on the bandwagon and I’m sure IS and others will be laughing with delight. Especially, as someone pointed out earlier, if they are the ‘wrong’ type of Muslim being attacked.



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    Pinball1970 says:

    “I have read the quran….and what ISIS is doing is nothing to do with Islam.”

    Abdul Quddus Arif
    Imam at Morden Mosque, London

    The New Day (UK) front page March 24th , inside another seven platitudes including one which states,

    “The majority of Muslims don’t agree with any sort of extremism. They are tired of thinking not in my name please”
    Qazi Abdul Mateen, Imam

    I agree It must be tiring denouncing mass murder every few months

    Also

    “We have had numerous parents contact police when their children have been influenced by Syria.”

    That is how it must happen, A child gets “influenced by Syria” then joins ISIS

    I think we can safely say phase two is in full swing.



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  • “The majority of Muslims don’t agree with any sort of extremism. They are tired of thinking not in my name please”

    Yes, but of course that ‘majority’ (of unspecified magnitude) isn’t the problem. It is the evidently significant minority that is the problem.

    I think we are all getting tired….. of this constant refrain of ‘No True Muslim’. It just doesn’t wash, whether it comes from Imam, or ‘community leader’, or Guardian correspondent, or BBC presenter.



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  • U.S. flags are at half-mast (again), maybe they should just stay there.

    up and down, back and forth we go – where it stops, no one knows (except Alice).



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    Pinball1970 says:

    @rogeroney
    Most muslims will not want to fight in Syria with ISIS or kill people in Paris or Brussels.
    This is the minority that everyone focuses on after another atrocity.
    They do not then ask what is it that fanatics read in the Koran the moderates ignore.
    What is the general moderate view on womens rights? gay rights? Womens rights? Sharia as a whole?
    How do they think their god views us (atheists) druids (pagans- we have some in the UK)? Jews? Christians?
    How does that make them feel about us (non muslims)?
    What is the goal of Islam? Global Islam? Global sharia?
    Why did the Cologne attacks happen? Why are such a disproportionate amount of muslim men abusing young girls in the UK?
    If The book says non muslims are diseased/cursed by Allah, like apes or pigs, worse than cattle would this not have an impact on how they deal with us?
    Would non muslims be easier to kill rape molest?
    If you have schools that have non muslim teachers teaching muslim children, will those moderate muslim parents of those kids be ok with the children listening to new ideas?
    Mixing sexes? Listening to criticism of Islam and religion as an academic exercise? Evolution replacing creation stories? Or will they rather and replaced my muslim thinking alternatives?
    Faith schools of course remove that barrier and we have plenty of those in the UK.
    Notice I have not mentioned guns bombs or terror?
    While the fanatics are killing people the moderates are perpetuating the poisonous ideas to children quite legally quite happily.



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  • The majority of the victims of Islamic fascism, which happens not in primarily in Europe but in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Nigeria , Sudan,Kenya etc are in fact muslim and the majority of people fighting Islamic fascism are also muslim.

    What does the fact that Hitler was Austrian tell us about all Austrians?



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  • There’s another phase that’s been omitted:

    The ultra-pretentious social media like-whores who post an infographic or list of other atrocities that have recently taken place, all in war-torn despotic hell-holes along with a cringeworthy sanctimonious derpfest on how they prefer to show solidarity towards those events rather than the “status quo”…yet they haven’t mentioned anything about those events until the current one.



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  • Steve #13
    Mar 24, 2016 at 10:57 am

    The majority of the victims of Islamic fascism, which happens not in primarily in Europe but in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Nigeria , Sudan,Kenya etc are in fact muslim and the majority of people fighting Islamic fascism are also muslim.

    You assert that the majority are fighting against the abuses of Islam, but give no figures!

    Inter-sect fighting, is not “fighting against the abuses of Islam”! It is one Sharia dogma against another Sharia dogma!
    We need to look at what they do! Not what apologists say while looking through faith blinkers!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-35882404

    Somalia’s prime minister has publicly backed a campaign to ban female genital mutilation (FGM) in his country.

    The UN children’s agency, Unicef, estimates that more than 90% of Somali girls undergo FGM.

    Ms Ahmed said that an education campaign, as well as a willingness to enforce the legislation, will be necessary.

    She said that it is widely practised in Somalia as people believe it is a religious requirement and girls who have not undergone it are taunted for not being cut.



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  • Some thoughts:

    I have met any number of people since the tragic incident occurred who do in fact blame Islam and all Muslims. That is a terrible mistake.

    We need to do everything we can to stop these people, but we will never get rid of terrorism altogether. We have to live with it. If we allow it to become an obsession, like Ahab’s white whale, we will destroy ourselves.

    What is Murray’s solution?

    A lot of talk about Islamic fascism. Belgium was fascist to the core at one point, had established a true, bona fide fascist regime. One of the worst ever. (Mosse) Next to Italy under Mussolini and Germany under Hitler, Belgian fascism ranks third. And those “rubber-seeking monsters” (J. Miller) also massacred scores upon scores of black Africans in the Congo.

    “Others will get onto Israel-Palestine.” – Murray

    And why the hell shouldn’t they? And he left out “getting onto” the second war with Iraq. Not significant?

    I hate what happened this past week. Sad and very anger-provoking. I hate cruelty and killing, hate terrorism, obviously. But let’s not forget: the world is a complex place.

    P.S. Neo-con Murray refers to Islamic fascism in his writings. Fascism is as misunderstood as socialism. It has certain specific features and elements. For example, “through stereotypes fascism worked not only with abstract symbols but with living human symbols as well. The true fascist man must through his looks, body, and comportment, project the ideal of male beauty. Men of flesh and blood were given a symbolic dimension, a fact which added to the fascist appeal.” If you are interested in fascism (and it’s a fascinating and disturbing subject) I would recommend George L. Mosse’s great work The Fascist Revolution. Mosse was a great historian and presented a penetrating rich and insightful analysis of fascism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mosse



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  • @OP – Then the good Muslim can represent Islam while the bad Muslims can be said to have nothing to do with it.

    Back in the real world where the faithful follow their leaders in prayer 5 times a day, there is a problem with that!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35893123

    The religious leader at Scotland’s biggest mosque has praised an extremist who was executed for committing murder in Pakistan, the BBC can reveal.

    Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman of Glasgow Central Mosque used the messaging platform WhatsApp to show his support for Mumtaz Qadri.

    Qadri was hanged in February after murdering a local politician who opposed strict blasphemy laws.



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  • Steve #13
    Mar 24, 2016 at 10:57 am

    The majority of the victims of Islamic fascism, which happens not in primarily in Europe but in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Nigeria , Sudan,Kenya etc are in fact muslim and the majority of people fighting Islamic fascism are also muslim.

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    Steve #17
    Mar 24, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    I just stated that fact and nothing else, so why you bothered to post all the irrelevent rest is beyond me.

    The point you are missing is that these mass inter-sect Muslim killings, are happening in majority Muslim countries, so it is attempts to pretend that Islam is irrelevant, which are mistaken.

    The large numbers of Islamic casualties are just as religious/ ideologically based, as majority Christian casualties in Irish Catholic/ Protestant conflicts, or majority Communist casualties in Stalin’s purges!



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  • I did not say or imply Islam was irrelevent. I just stated a simple fact, all the “implications” you give of that simple fact are only in your mind, not mine



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  • @stevet

    “What does the fact that Hitler was Austrian tell us about all Austrians?”

    It can tell us at the very least something about many Austrians – but not all Austrians. But I would rephrase that: what can Germanic culture, particularly with regard to the dynamics of the family, tell us about the rise of Hitler? Erik Erikson wrote about the role of the father in many German families during that time. This facet of German culture is enormously significant. Unfortunately, I can’t find the quote or remember the book title (so I’ll have to put it in my own paltry words): The father was the lord and master; when he came home from work the walls shook.

    The point is not simply that Hitler was born in Austrian, was Austrian; the point is that in Austria and Germany father-worship was the order of the day and provided the backdrop, was the soil from which Hitler’s power and influence and appeal grew. (Many other factors, of course: political, social, economic, etc.)

    Norman Mailer said that fascism has the potential to appeal to many people in general because it takes us back to a time when we were children and were told by our parents: yes, no, good, bad, do this, do that. The authority figure in the form of a charismatic dictator is a recreation of what we experienced as children and comforts us, in spite of whatever conscious feelings of opposition we might have experienced as children. (So this is not only a German thing; nor is it only about the father.)

    Your original point (if I am not mistaken) was that the monsters that perpetrate these crimes are Muslim, but that should not lead to erroneous conclusions about all Muslims. I said something similar (Comment 18). But it can certainly tell us something about many Muslims – but not all Muslims. But I would rephrase that: what can the (complex and varied) culture of Islam, in addition our role in this and all of the other elements too numerous to mention, tell us about the rise of terrorists such as these? Nothing?

    This is not an anti-Muslim question.

    Steve, I loved your “light-bulb” comment on the Why We Believe thread, and the others too.



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    Pinball1970 says:

    @olli the guy in the vid did not mention anything about jews, gays, women or what the book says about non muslims
    Perhaps he is a progressive?
    I like that he said we should not shoot people we disagree with.



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    Pinball1970 says:

    @danielr-2
    The problem is the fact the religion has not progressed.
    There are plenty of supremacist comments in there and we know how that sort of language can twist people.
    Is the bible supremacist? Yeah sure in parts but despite catholic churches best attempts keep us in the dark ages we manage to break free and progress Christianity.
    The nasty parts are either metaphorical or ignored, we don’t burn witches any more.



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  • I think their religion plays a role. How much, I don’t know. Other factors as well. I just don’t know precisely what the causes are, would take years of study. I refuse to say that this group or that is more vicious by nature; that would be irresponsible.
    (Religions don’t progress much, do they?)



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    Pinball1970 says:

    @danielr-2
    Another difference Dan
    You can be a christian once a week or once a month
    You can be gay (sort of) drink, mix with women dress racy if you want to.
    In fact you cant tell if a person is christian or an atheist unless you ask.
    Islam not just a religion it is a framework for life, how to behave.
    Rules on women marriage, law, how you kill animals for food and which ones.
    With Christianity a few prayers and a few visits to church and you are good to go.
    We need to fast forward Islam by 500 years with rational debate and discussion.
    Move the religion from tribal supremacism to civilized delusion, I think everyone can cope with that.



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  • Ms Pearson should have known that the only acceptable thing to do after a suicide bomber detonates beside the European Commission is to acclaim the Commission as one of the few entities able to keep us safe.

    The sarcasm is unwarranted. Safety isn’t all-or-nothing; one must view things statistically. In the Western world, there are few causes of death remotely as rare as terrorism.

    Soon we will move to the next phase, during which broadcast media will ask questions that address no major points.

    The ensuing discussion is of rights-quashing security measures such as TPIMs. It would be more prudent to consider these ideas as dangerous rather than nothing major. Unfortunately, Murray doesn’t have human rights as his top priority:

    Everything barely worth saying will be said endlessly. And the only things that are worth saying won’t be said. What are those things? Among other things the fact that we are living with the consequences of an immigration and ‘integration’ fantasy which should have been abandoned years ago.

    What specifically does Murray think should be done differently? Should we ban immigration from certain countries to others because of occasional terrorists? Until Islamists get a dirty bomb, they will remain no more serious a security issue than, say, the IRA was to the UK. We didn’t need to sacrifice liberties over that. But I think Murray thinks we need to now, because he says:

    Nobody cites Sweden anymore. In fact nobody looks to anyone else’s model anymore. Because all of the ‘models’ failed.

    His definition of immigration failing is one terrorist attack per nation by one of countless groups that were able to immigrate on a large scale. Is he aware there have been almost 30,000 post-911 Islamist terrorist attacks worldwide, almost all of them Muslims attacking each other in non-Western nations? Our existing immigration legislation may have imperfections, but its response to occasional terrorism is far too proportionate to warrant Murray’s assessment of it, or any of the alternatives to it I hope he isn’t really advocating. Because if he is, I can only compare such policies to the most extreme anti-Africa flight measures proposed to limit the spread of Ebola in 2015.



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  • 30,000 post-911 Islamist terrorist attacks worldwide

    FB is full of people asking why there is no; Je suis Turkey or Pakistan or……….



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  • Hi Pinball. The attack was on the country. It was an attack on tourism. On stability.

    I do nothing that suggests I agree with the human rights issues of these countries. My comment is on the terrorism. People seem to express surprise? Disgust yes but surprise?



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  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36009196

    The suspected surviving bomber in the Brussels attacks has admitted the group was initially planning a new attack on France, Belgian prosecutors say.

    Mohamed Abrini said the group had decided to attack Brussels instead after the arrest of fellow suspect Salah Abdeslam.

    He also reportedly admitted being the third bomber in the airport attack, fleeing without setting off his device.

    It becomes increasingly obvious that these fanatics are simply running amuck full of hate, and feel the need to attack someone, rather than a specific target.

    If the plan to attack France might have been discovered, let’s attack Belgium or somewhere else!!!!



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