Anti-Islam campaigners derail atheists’ ‘tick the truth’ census project

Jul 31, 2016

By Shalailah Medhora

A project to get atheists to tick the “no religion” box in the upcoming census has faced a backlash from anti-Islam campaigners, who say that it would ensure Islam becomes Australia’s dominant religion.

The Atheists Foundation of Australia has been trying to get people to stop marking their birth religion down on next month’s census (which is basically a compulsory survey of the entire Australian population) if they no longer practice that religion.

The foundation’s President, Kylie Sturgess, told Hack that the group was not telling people to abandon Christianity, but wanted people who weren’t religious to fess up to it.

“If you’re a Christian, awesome! Tick that box,” Kylie says. “Just try and tick the truth.”


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19 comments on “Anti-Islam campaigners derail atheists’ ‘tick the truth’ census project

  • The anti-islam buch have simply failed at reading comprehension.
    They’ve taken “Mark No Religion” to mean don’t mark in the “Religion” question, when it really means mark the “No Religion” option. Idiots.



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  • It probably has to do with the pecking order. If a revelation changes the playing field, then some will stand to win, some to lose, and the rest left living with uncertainty. Now your math is probably better than mine, but I believe that works out to more people with something to lose than gain.



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  • @OP link- “Though I am an atheist, I’ll be putting down the religion I was born into. I won’t be letting Islam take the upper hand. This is really important,” another woman wrote.

    Clearly still a delusionist even if the religious upbringing has been shaken off!

    I can see the groupings have a propaganda effect,

    In 2011, just over 476,000 people (2.4 per cent of the population) identified their religion as Islam, making it the 7th most popular in Australia.

    The biggest religious group is Western Catholic (27.4 per cent) followed by No Religion (23.9 per cent). But only 3 percent, or just under 59,000 people, identified specifically as atheists.

    There are probably sensationalist journalists also involved in promoting this Islamophobic message, in addition to those trying to inflate Christian religious figures to mislead politicians about the size of the religious vote!



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  • First of all I agree with Pinball [#6] – what difference does it make if Australia’s largest religion is suddenly Muslims? It might make people think … oh, wait …

    Also, I presume that Muslims being recorded as the largest religion would only be possible if the majority of the* country identified as not religious?

    Finally, crookedshoes [#2] makes an excellent point: The agenda of the Australian Government and the Atheists are aligned, to get to the truth. Anyone asking you to fill in a form inaccurately is asking you to commit a fraud on your fellow citizens.

    Peace.



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  • crookedshoes

    Sean_W, I am sure that you are right.

    Of course I am. Anyway, I was just giving a rule of thumb about understanding denial in general.

    It’s good to see you back. I haven’t seen you around since our sometimes heated argument over Greenpeace and the Russians. -cheers- đŸ™‚



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  • what difference does it make if Australia’s largest religion is suddenly Muslims?

    Appalling and dangerous ignorance. Then Australia would be an Islamic state, likely with sharia
    and its inhuman rules and punishments and Australians would be faced with a choice–

    Convert to Islam
    If Jews or Christians [people of the Book], live as dhimmis, pay the jizya ‘with willing submission and feel themselves humiliated’
    For the remainder, death as infidels.

    THIS is how Islam rolls- do you fancy that life??



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  • JimJFox #11
    Aug 2, 2016 at 4:51 am

    what difference does it make if Australia’s largest religion is suddenly Muslims?

    Appalling and dangerous ignorance. Then Australia would be an Islamic state, likely with sharia

    Let’s not get carried away with sensationalist journalism.

    The previous figures show @#5 (2.4 per cent of the population) identified their religion as Islam, making it the 7th most popular in Australia.

    The biggest religious group is Western Catholic (27.4 per cent) followed by No Religion (23.9 per cent)

    If the “nones” group expands, and the other religions shrink down to 2% each, and EVEN IF the then largest Islamic group doubles to 5%, that would still still be 5% as a minority to the other 95%.
    Hardly in a position to dominate and impose Sharia!



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  • Let’s not get carried away with sensationalist journalism.

    The anti-islam campaigners have either not done their homework or are not being honest about their concerns? The only winners would be the non-religious group who are the biggest threat to their christianity.



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  • I think the Christians are just trying to use Islam as the bogey man. In reality they are running scared, I think it’s quite obvious who the biggest group might be soon.



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  • We’ve been in training for 5 years now. The Australian National No Religion Team is looking forward to the Grand Final next Tuesday night. Last Census, we came a close second to the Catholics, but we think we’re in with a good chance of overturning this result, and winning the Flag. We’ve still got a long way to go though if we are going to challenge the World Cup holders, Iceland.

    https://www.rt.com/news/329107-iceland-poll-religion-god/



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  • @JimJFox

    what difference does it make if Australia’s largest religion is suddenly Muslims?
    Appalling and dangerous ignorance.

    You’re missing the point I fear, I want people to be honest on the census so we know exactly what the make up of our country is. Changing you vote on the census won’t change how many Muslims there are or not in this country it just changes how many people we know there are of each faith. At the moment often the non-religious are inflicted with the views of the religious because the politicians don’t see us as a vote that are likely to vote for secular values. How does it help anything to lie about our beliefs and pretend to be Christian when we are not? If Muslims out vote us because there are more of them than us then we’d better bloody well hope that by then we have convinced the vast majority of them of the value of separation of church and state, if we don’t manage that then we would be in the situation you suggest pretending that we are what we are not will not change the facts on the ground just fail to alert anyone of the real facts.



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  • 17
    Cairsley says:

    To David R. Allen #15

    … Last Census, we came a close second to the Catholics, but we think we’re in with a good chance of overturning this result. …

    Good luck with that!

    Across the Tasman we are hoping to achieve something similar in our next census in 2018, not against the largest religious group (the Catholics (for the first time in 2013)) but against all Christians combined. In 2013 Christians were found to be 48.9% of the population and those of no religion 41.9%. As elsewhere in the Western world, the numbers of the religious in New Zealand are steadily falling and the numbers of the irreligious steadily rising. So the question presents itself: Will the irreligious overtake the Christians in 2018 or in a later census?



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  • Some people really don’t like proper information telling the wider population, how it really is!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37008173
    The Australian census website was shut down by what authorities said was a series of deliberate attacks from overseas hackers.

    Millions of Australians were prevented from taking part in the national survey on Tuesday night.

    The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) had boasted only hours before that its website would not crash.

    The prime minister assured the public that their personal information was not compromised.

    Every five years, everyone in Australia is required to fill out forms are compiled to provide a snapshot of the country.

    Two-thirds of Australians were expected to complete the census online this year, rather than on paper.

    “What you saw was the denial of service attack or a denial of service attempt which, as you know, is designed to prevent access to a website as opposed to getting into the server behind it. Some of those defences failed, frankly.”

    Assistant Treasurer Michael McCormack, who was responsible for overseeing the census, denied that the national survey was “hacked” or “attacked”.

    “It was an attempt to frustrate the collection of data,” he said.

    “People should feel rest assured their data is safe.”



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