Children’s Home Shuns Atheist Dollars

Aug 31, 2016

By Katie Zavadski

On Monday, Matt Wilbourn, the founder of the Muskogee Atheist Community in Oklahoma, made a $100 donation in his organization’s name to the Murrow Indian Children’s Home. Later that day, his phone rang.

“I received a phone call an hour later from the lady who accepted my donation earlier telling me that her director asked her to call me and tell me that my donation was not accepted,” Wilbourn wrote on a Go Fund Me page. “She went on to say that they are funded by the American Baptist Churches Association and accepting a donation from atheists would go against everything they believe in.”

“I emailed the director and even told her that I’m raising the amount to $250. I’m awaiting her response,” he added.


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15 comments on “Children’s Home Shuns Atheist Dollars

  • @OP – “She went on to say that they are funded by the American Baptist Churches Association and accepting a donation from atheists would go against everything they believe in.”

    That sounds about right!
    Proselyting and indoctrinating children, is what they “believe in”!
    Giving a home to children is just a means to that end – and after all, it does provide a captive audience, with little chance for them to escape!



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  • It is pretty disgusting taking from underprivileged kids to play silly spit-on-you games. I doubt the kids would care where the money came from, yet they are the ones who take the hit for refusing the donation. The Baptists lose nothing.



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  • It appears that those who did not agree with the home’s refusal to accept the money have effectively shut down its facebook page and the “contact” section on the organization’s homepage. While I disagree with their position, this was the wrong kind of response.



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  • It seems the appeal for cash was badly planned and not researched properly; to have people give all that money for a cause run by bigots, only to find they don’t even want your money.
    I hope that whoever arranged this request for money will not do such a thing again without knowing all about whom they are dealing with.
    If the public are handing over their money they deserve the collectors to be knowledgeable and responsible. I bet many of them are now angry. I certainly would be.



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  • Okay, the Baptists refused his donation so he set up a GoFundMe page for the same Murrow Indian Children’s Home. Amassed over $28,000 and then decides to give approximately $5,000 to the children’s home and the rest to Camp Quest. What??? Did the donors intend/expect their money to go to the Native American kids? I understand being aggravated by the insult to atheists. I understand the impulse to show them by setting up the GoFundMe page and I applaud everyone who donated. But I don’t understand giving 1/5 to the charity and the rest to CampQuest. I looked on the page but there was no info how how that was decided or if the donors were okay with it.

    If you think the Baptists will use the money for indoctrination or waste it or whatever, why give them any? If you think they’ll use properly for the kids benefit, why don’t they get it all? If they can find a friendly church to funnel it through, maybe they can find a way to get it to the kids and bypass the Baptists. Or limit how they can use it?

    Trolling the Facebook page and comments with stupid comments and insults doesn’t help atheists.



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  • Ep2016, he started the GoFundMe to see if they would change their minds once the $$$ rolled in. They continued to refuse the money because of their “Biblical principles”. The money had to go somewhere, so he named Camp Quest as a secondary choice should the MICH continue to refuse. If you look at the comment section on his GoFundMe page, you’ll find most seem to be aware of his secondary choice.

    Despite their continued refusal, he still wanted to get some of the money to the MICH kids – even arranging for a church to pass the money on. MICH stated they’d still refuse the donation even if it went through a church. As well as that, he’s even attempted to pay their electricity bill, etc, as a way to get some of the money to benefit them.

    Giving up, he and the Muskogee Atheist Community have decided to give it all to Camp Quest. Personally, I can think of far more deserving charities, but at least the money is going to benefit kids and the secular community. So it’s still a good thing.



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  • Bruiser40- Thank for all that information, I’m glad to know it (I don’t know how I missed it). It’s really hard to believe they would give up that much money if they were truly concerned for the children.

    It sounds like Mr. Willborn behaved and continues to behave, like an exceptionally compassionate and good-hearted person.

    I also glad to know that the donors were also aware of the backup plan. And I agree it’s a still a really good thing.

    Thanks again for letting me know.



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  • The Vatican recently paid $1B to keep their priests and nuns out of court for their systematic sexual abuse of native children in their care in Canadian residential schools over 5 decades. The Pope would never show his face here. I would never leave children in the hands of people of any religion as to begin with they live in a world where logic and reason are forbidden but blind worship of the supernatural, self righteousness and delusional fantasy are prerequisite qualities of caregivers.



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  • Brian Breckon #13
    Sep 2, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    I would never leave children in the hands of people of any religion as to begin with they live in a world where logic and reason are forbidden but blind worship of the supernatural, self righteousness and delusional fantasy are prerequisite qualities of caregivers.

    I see the Vatican has just declared that delusional abuser of the sick and dying to be a Saint!

    https://scienceblog.com/60730/mother-teresa-anything-but-a-saint/

    ‘The sick must suffer like Christ on the cross’

    At the time of her death, Mother Teresa had opened 517 missions welcoming the poor and sick in more than 100 countries. The missions have been described as “homes for the dying” by doctors visiting several of these establishments in Calcutta. Two-thirds of the people coming to these missions hoped to a find a doctor to treat them, while the other third lay dying without receiving appropriate care. The doctors observed a significant lack of hygiene, even unfit conditions, as well as a shortage of actual care, inadequate food, and no painkillers. The problem is not a lack of money—the Foundation created by Mother Teresa has raised hundreds of millions of dollars—but rather a particular conception of suffering and death: “There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,” was her reply to criticism, cites the journalist Christopher Hitchens. Nevertheless, when Mother Teresa required palliative care, she received it in a modern American hospital.

    Mother Teresa’s questionable politics and shadowy accounting

    Mother Teresa was generous with her prayers but rather miserly with her foundation’s millions when it came to humanity’s suffering. During numerous floods in India or following the explosion of a pesticide plant in Bhopal, she offered numerous prayers and medallions of the Virgin Mary but no direct or monetary aid. On the other hand, she had no qualms about accepting the Legion of Honour and a grant from the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti. Millions of dollars were transferred to the MCO’s various bank accounts, but most of the accounts were kept secret, Larivée says. “Given the parsimonious management of Mother Theresa’s works, one may ask where the millions of dollars for the poorest of the poor have gone?”



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  • Meanwhile – back in delusion land:-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37269512

    Mother Teresa, revered for her work with the poor in India, has been proclaimed a saint by Pope Francis in a ceremony at the Vatican.

    Francis said St Teresa had defended the unborn, sick and abandoned, and had shamed world leaders for the “crimes of poverty they themselves created”.

    Tens of thousands of pilgrims attended the canonisation in St Peter’s Square.

    Two miraculous cures of the sick after Mother Teresa’s death in 1997 have been attributed to her intercession.

    In India, a special Mass was celebrated at the Missionaries of Charity, the order she founded in Kolkata (Calcutta).

    Cardinal Angelo Amato read a brief biography of Mother Teresa’s work, then asked the Pope to canonise her in the name of the Church.

    Pope Francis responded: “We declare and define Blessed Teresa of Calcutta to be a saint and we enrol her among the saints, decreeing that she is to be venerated as such by the whole Church.”

    The Pope said Mother Teresa had spent her life “bowing down before those who were spent, left to die on the side of the road, seeing in them their God-given dignity”.

    In his homily of St Teresa’s work, Pope Francis said she had shone a light in the darkness of the many who no longer had tears to shed for their poverty and suffering. It was clear that her life reflected the kind of Church that this Pope is trying to build: one that shows mercy to all and offers practical help for the poorest and for all those in need.

    Although critics have sought to portray St Teresa as a sinner and a hypocrite, her supporters have been just as vocal in her defence, challenging those critics to live their lives the way St Teresa did, before they cast the first stone.

    Hundreds of Missionaries of Charity sisters attended the event, along with 13 heads of state or government.

    So for every person who actually researches facts, there will be thousands of faithful sheeples looking to a delusional fantasy example of “moral sainthood” and doggedly defending abusers!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37241762

    Maverick British-born author Christopher Hitchens described her as a “religious fundamentalist, a political operative, a primitive sermoniser, and an accomplice of worldly secular powers”.

    In the much-talked about pamphlet The Missionary Position, Hitchens criticised the nun’s “cult of suffering” and said she had painted her adopted city as a “hell hole” and hobnobbed with dictators. Hitchens also presented Hell’s Angel, a sceptical documentary on the nun.

    Much later, in 2003, London-based physician Aroup Chatterjee published a blistering critique of the nun, after conducting some 100 interviews with people associated with the nun’s sisterhood. He flayed what he called the appalling lack of hygiene – reuse of hypodermic needles, for example – and shambolic care facilities at their homes, among other things.

    There are others like Miami-based Hemley Gonzalez, who worked as a volunteer in one of Teresa’s homes for the poor in Kolkata for two months in 2008, and was “shocked to discover the horrifically negligent manner in which this charity operates and the direct contradiction of the public’s general understanding of their work”.

    “Standing firm against planned parenthood, modernisation of equipment, and a myriad of other solution-based initiatives, Mother Teresa was not a friend of the poor but rather a promoter of poverty,” Mr Gonzalez told me. Today, he runs a Facebook page criticising the nun and to educate “unsuspecting donors” to the sisterhood.

    In recent years, Indian rationalists like Sanal Edamaruku have questioned the miracles that have led to the nun’s sainthood.



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