Five Christian pastors in Illinois are challenging a state law banning ‘conversion therapy’ for gay youth

Aug 13, 2016

By Elise Schmelzer

A group of Illinois pastors filed suit against the state Thursday, arguing that clergy should be exempt from a law banning counselors from trying to change a minor’s sexual orientation because it violates their constitutional right to free speech and exercise of religion.

The law, which went into effect in January, bans licensed counselors and mental health professionals from practicing “conversion therapy” — counseling designed to make gay, lesbian, bisexual or queer people become straight — on minors. While religious leaders don’t fall under this category, the suit says pastors could be held liable for consumer fraud under a section of the law that says “no person or entity” may advertise or practice conversion therapy that “represents homosexuality as a mental disease, disorder or illness.”

And that’s exactly what the five Christian pastors think, according to their lawsuit filed in federal court.


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6 comments on “Five Christian pastors in Illinois are challenging a state law banning ‘conversion therapy’ for gay youth

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    youth who will be forerunners for the army of the LORD” – from one of the church’s website, it becomes clear why the pastors want to get their hands on the defenseless and pliable.

    Never mind negative ramifications from ‘de-conversion therapy’ (which they deny), it’s all for god’s glory. The unmitigated gall of this group filing suit is flabbergasting.



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  • @OP – consumer fraud under a section of the law that says “no person or entity” may advertise or practice conversion therapy that “represents homosexuality as a mental disease, disorder or illness.”

    God-delusions empower themselves to be all-knowing on medical as well as other matters – at least as far as the minds of their deluded human hosts are concerned!

    (How dare these doctors say they know better than my bronze-age god-delusion!)



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  • Well after the things which have come out in this country (Ireland) in the last few weeks, it seems that the RCs have found a way to manage the conundrum. Enrol them as priests.

    One former trainee said of his time in the Irish College in Rome that the Vatican was a gay “orgy,” others, who were involved in the priest school in Maynooth, said that gay sex was rampant, and students spent time on gay websites as well as bonking each other. Naturally, the leaders of the colleges didn’t want to know, and whistleblowers were found to be unsuitable for training as priests, and summarily kicked out. An atmosphere of fear was alleged.

    It is argued that gay young men, who were pious and guilt ridden about their sexuality, took refuge in priesthood, in the hope that their gayness would go away and that marriage could be avoided. At least forgiveness is available through the sacrament of confession, from a fellow priest who is no doubt wrestling with the same quandary.

    The decline in vocations is thought to be at least partly due to the fact that gayness is now accepted in Irish society, and since it can’t get many vocations, the church has to hold on to those whom it has.



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  • When they give us a reason other then ‘it says so in the bible’ to not like gays, perhaps we can begin negotiations. But simply demanding the ability to mentally manipulate minors on the grounds they believe they have some form of divine right, is simply wrong. Why can they not see this?!



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