The Atlantic Ocean and an Actual Debate in Climate Science

Jan 8, 2017

By Robinson Meyer

Americans who are concerned about climate change have long found themselves in an unenviable position: They have to debate about the existence of a debate.

For about two decades, the vast majority of climate scientists have agreed that human industrial activity is forcing the planet to warm. For about as long, some doubters have argued that this consensus is nonexistent or premature—and that, despite repeated studies identifying it, media attempts to report on the consensus constitute so much liberal bias.

These fights will likely be recapitulated this month. Scott Pruitt, the attorney general of Oklahoma and President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the EPA, has invested a lot of time in fighting the Obama administration’s climate and environmental regulations. He has not, however, said very much on the record about climate change.


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  • Hi Jay

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  • @OP – link – Scott Pruitt, the attorney general of Oklahoma and President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the EPA, has invested a lot of time in fighting the Obama administration’s climate and environmental regulations. He has not, however, said very much on the record about climate change.

    One of his only quotes on the matter appeared in a National Review editorial last year. “Scientists continue to disagree about the degree and extent of global warming and its connection to the actions of mankind,” he wrote, in an article co-authored with Alabama attorney general Luther Strange.

    The problem is: Not all of this sentence is true.

    Any resemblance to truth is purely co-incidental and extremely marginal at best!

    Thousands of the world’s leading scientists and science-bodies agree there is no longer a serious debate on human responsibility for increased atmospheric CO2 and a warming climate! A handful of mavericks paid stooges and muppets who somehow gained some sort of science qualification, keep illustrating their dishonest or incompetent denial of the evidence.

    While scientists continue to explore the consequences of climate change, there is essentially no debate among scientists about global warming’s “connection to the actions of mankind.”

    Any science literate should be able to READ the figures on annual coal, oil, and gas production and know that C + O2 = CO2 and the measurements of CO2 levels in the atmosphere over the decades and millennia!

    Nor has there been a debate for years. Since at least 1995, the balance of evidence in climate science has indicated that human-caused greenhouse-gas emissions are behind the planet’s warming.

    At least no debate among competent scientists! The science debates are on local details of impacts, NOT if the global warming is happening!

    Scott Pruitt, the attorney general of Oklahoma

    Scott Pruitt, however is not a scientist, but is a lawyer, who obviously takes his information from the gutter-press propagandists, rather than from scientific research documents or the statements of reputable scientific bodies!

    There is a scientific discussion of local details on this other thread.

    https://www.richarddawkins.net/2017/01/climate-change-may-shut-down-a-current-that-keeps-the-north-atlantic-warm/



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  • Scott Pruitt has got a thermometer in his freezer and he checks it daily – It hasn’t changed from -18c for over TEN years! – that’s all the evidence he needs……Then he goes to bed and reads the bible.



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