Faith-healing bill dies in Idaho Senate

Mar 22, 2017

By Associated Press

BOISE, Idaho (AP) – The Idaho Senate has spiked a proposal seeking to tweak the state’s laws allowing families to cite religious reasons for medical decisions without fear of being charged with neglect or abuse.

The proposal would have only amended Idaho’s civil laws to make it easier for judges to get involved in faith-healing cases. The bill did not change the state’s religious exemption regarding criminal charges, which is considered the most contentious part of the religious waiver.

However, despite the proposal being pitched as a compromise, criticism among lawmakers ranged from those who thought the bill didn’t change enough while others thought the bill went too far.

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6 comments on “Faith-healing bill dies in Idaho Senate

  • @OP – The bill did not change the state’s religious exemption regarding criminal charges, which is considered the most contentious part of the religious waiver.

    However, despite the proposal being pitched as a compromise, criticism among lawmakers ranged from those who thought the bill didn’t change enough while others thought the bill went too far.

    Which goes to prove how the elected faith-befuddled, fiddle with details of applied stupidity, and so waste legislators time, which could be better used on practical issues, and instead, support the damaging stupidity of their fellow tribalists in inflicting the consequences of their irrational thinking on others – but with special immunity from citizens’ normal legal responsibility for their actions!



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  • Wait, wait, wait…. shouldn’t the proponents of this simply pray that it gets legislated and passed? And, and, and if it doesn’t, it simply “was not god’s will”?

    Why, does such legislation need to be written and lobbied and phone calls made and legislators informed? Shouldn’t it just BE if GOD wants it to be???

    Funny how they see the need for action, reaction, and proaction when it comes to getting their agenda passed, but curiously NOT when it comes to their fucking children dying. The criminal charges should be filed whether the child recovers or not. The charge should be reckless endangerment and their kids should be adopted out to a same sex couple that can think and foster an environment conducive to raising healthy stable children.



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  • So now let’s see if the Republican repeal of Obamacare care dies – or at least is delayed, in the Congress? They seem split on cuts – , “Too much or Not enough”!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39355574

    High stakes for Trump on healthcare vote

    It’s time for Donald Trump, the man who bills himself as the consummate dealmaker, to flex his negotiating muscle – or else.

    The American Healthcare Act, which rolls back portions of the Obamacare health-insurance reforms, is scheduled for a vote in the House of Representatives on Friday. The bill was initially scheduled to go before the House on Thursday, but was delayed amid concerns it would not garner enough votes.

    Even with the delay, it remains far from certain that there are the 215 votes necessary for passage. According to the latest Associated Press news agency tally, at least 28 Republicans are opposed. Assuming all the Democratic lawmakers present stick together – which seems fairly certain at this point – it would only take 23 Republican defections to sink the bill.

    The embattled president issued increasingly serious warnings to the Republican holdouts – telling them on Tuesday that their congressional majorities were in peril if the bill were voted down, then on Thursday that he would abandon healthcare reform if they did not pass his bill – leaving them stuck with Obamacare for good.

    At one point he singled out Congressman Mark Meadows, leader of the recalcitrant group of libertarian-leaning conservative congressmen known as the Freedom Caucus, telling him: “I’m going to come after you, but I know I won’t have to, because I know you’ll vote Yes.”

    Press Secretary Sean Spicer would later say that Mr Trump meant that as a joke, but in politics a joke is often a threat delivered with a smile.
    Mr Meadows, by the way, is still a solid No.




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  • @#3 – So now let’s see if the Republican repeal of Obamacare care dies – or at least is delayed, in the Congress?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39387550

    A vote on US President Donald Trump’s healthcare bill has been withdrawn at the last minute after it failed to gain enough support to pass in Congress.

    Mr Trump told House Speaker Paul Ryan to pull the bill after it became apparent it would not get the minimum of 215 Republican votes needed.

    The withdrawal is seen as a huge blow to Mr Trump.



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  • I researched this for a new novel I’m finishing and one interesting fact I came across was that it was John Ehrlichman and H R Haldman (the men jailed for Watergate) that inserted the religious exception into the Child Abuse Prevention Act in the 1970s. They were both Christian Scientists and believed in faith-healing. They wanted to protect parents who chose prayer over taking their children to a doctor. Idaho is one of six states that never repealed the religious shield law even in cases where the child dies from neglect.



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