Christians Are Harassing the Atheist Lawyer Who Won the Pensacola Cross Case

Jun 22, 2017

By Hemant Mehta

Earlier this week, a judge in Florida ruled that a giant government-sponsored Christian cross in Pensacola had to come down. It was clearly an establishment of religion, he said, adding, “the law is the law.”

The attorney who successfully argued this case for the American Humanist Association’s Appignani Humanist Legal Center was Monica Miller, who’s been with the AHA for five years. Her bio is incredibly impressive and she’s done a lot of work in the past several years on behalf of atheist plaintiffs, but this recent victory really struck a nerve with Christians who are now harassing her (and the AHA).

This particular post seems to have gotten the most attention on Facebook. It’s been shared more than 7,000 times as of this writing. And it’s by a man named Lou Cobb, whose Facebook profile says he’s retired from the Santa Rosa County Sheriff’s Office in Florida.

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9 comments on “Christians Are Harassing the Atheist Lawyer Who Won the Pensacola Cross Case

  • While the courts continue to shut down Christian public expression, note that the folks who are shutting down your own public speech, Mr. Dawkins, are not the Christians. We are not your enemy.



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  • As for the attorney supposedly being harassed (the article gives no details to justify that claim), I’m sure the attorney is crying all the way to the bank, since the attorney received taxpayer money for filing this suit. How exactly was the taxpayer paying a “bill” for the cross which already existed? Does a cross require some sort of heavenly utility bill? No; the cost to the taxpayer will be paying for the cross’ removal and for the attorney’s absurdly inflated fees. This is the same abuse of the Civil RIghts Act that keeps the Wesboro Baptist Church afloat financially.



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  • @Patterwig,

    While the courts continue to shut down Christian public expression, note that the folks who are shutting down your own public speech, Mr. Dawkins, are not the Christians. We are not your enemy.

    Shutting down your public expression would be demanding you could not put a cross on your own property. To fall foul of the Establishment clause it would have to be on public land. In your posts you are stating that ‘we’ (your brand of Christianity) is not your enemy. So let me ask you would you be comfortable with a 50 ft high Star and Crescent being displayed prominently on public land? How about Ganesha? Would you be comfortable if your children had to pray to Allah 5 times a day facing Mecca? The reason for the establishment of a separation of church and state is so that no one religion is able to dominate all others in the USA. It is freedom for and of religion and freedom from religion.

    You are free to practice your religion even though your particular brand makes you a minority in the USA, what you cannot do is legally use the government to promote yours.

    This is the same abuse of the Civil RIghts Act that keeps the Wesboro Baptist Church afloat financially.

    It’s the same act that stops whatever the majority religion dominating the political landscape, you should aa a Christian be very relieved (actually proud) as theocracies all over the world show you what happens when their is no freedom of and from religion.

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  • Reckless

    Brilliantly done. No amount of mocking beats pure logic!!

    We had a similar incident in North Cyprus. A lawyer sued the mosque (virtually) next door for turning up the volume on the five times a day ezan blasted out from the minarets. She did not ask for them to be banned but to be turned down. The FB response from those who thought she was against the religion was sickening. Even secular people I know went to town on her. One particular friend and colleague in our NGO got really carried away and I had to pull him upon it. I told him that I was disappointed that he had not seen the danger of the frenzy and those religious zealots from Turkey could get really empowered and drag her out and stone her to death. That image seemed to snap him out of it and his expression showed how stupid he felt. We have the shadow of Erdogan hanging over a very secular Turkish Cypriot society that is chipping away slowly at us and it seems a sudden frenzy makes people forget their principles for a while. It is scary and plays on my mind a lot. The outcome is that it did start the conversation people were afraid to have and two days ago I read the courts have ruled an eight decibel limit.



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  • Pattertwig #4
    Jun 25, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    In this comment you make illustrates the problems of assertions by the religious using unevidenced faith-thinking, and tribalistic in-group bias, used to defend the unreasonable actions of fellow more extreme believers.

    As for the attorney supposedly being harassed (the article gives no details to justify that claim),

    If you click on the Source link button to the FRIENDLY ATHEIST site you will find quotes of various abusive comments.

    I’m sure the attorney is crying all the way to the bank, since the attorney received taxpayer money for filing this suit.

    It states in the opening paragraph that she was acting on behalf of the American Humanist Association’s Appignani Humanist Legal Center, so where do you get the claim about the attorney receiving taxpayer money, or “the attorney’s absurdly inflated fees”?

    @OP – The attorney who successfully argued this case for the American Humanist Association’s Appignani Humanist Legal Center was Monica Miller, who’s been with the AHA for five years.

    Pattertwig – #3 Jun 25, 2017 at 8:46 pm –
    While the courts continue to shut down Christian public expression,

    The courts are not “shutting down Christian public expression”, they are shutting down the illegal use of public facilities for promoting Christian expression, in accordance with the legal requirements of the constitution.
    Christians are still entitled to use their own facilities and to express themselves, and place crosses in public view on their own land, but there is no requirement for tax-payers of other religions or non, to provide public land for Christian promotions. – Nor should there be!

    If Christians recklessly ignore constitutional legal requirements on the use of public facilities, they should have no complaints about being held to account by the courts!

    “We are Christians, so our faith-thinking tells us we are above the law of the land”, is not a credible argument!

    Of course some legally literate reasonable Christians have spoken out to support the lawyer in her efforts to up-hold the law!



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  • Pattertwig #3
    Jun 25, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    We are not your enemy.

    BUT:- after making this claim, you promptly ally yourself with those who clearly are the abusive enemies of law and reason, and become a tribalist apologist for those Christians who are abusing atheists for doing their jobs of upholding the constitutional law – which gives equality of rights to all citizens, with no particular religion being given preferential treatment at public expense!



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  • @OP – Christians Are Harassing the Atheist Lawyer Who Won the Pensacola Cross Case

    Is it any surprise when this sort of irrational abusive example is set by a president?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40452779

    Senior US Republicans have joined condemnation of President Donald Trump over an attack he made on Twitter against a prominent female journalist.

    Mr Trump called Mika Brzezinski “low IQ crazy Mika”, in response to disparaging remarks about him on an MSNBC show.

    He also referred to her “bleeding badly from a facelift” and assailed her co-presenter Joe Scarborough.

    Senator Lindsey Graham said Mr Trump’s remarks were “beneath the office” of president.

    He said the tweet “represents what is wrong with American politics, not the greatness of America”.

    “Please just stop. This isn’t normal,” tweeted fellow Republican Senator Ben Sasse.

    Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan also joined the criticism, saying: “I don’t see that as an appropriate comment. What we’re trying to do around here is improve the tone, the civility of the debate. This obviously doesn’t help.”

    MSNBC said it was “a sad day for America when the president spends his time bullying, lying and spewing petty personal attacks instead of doing his job”.

    Even his Republican political supporters, are coming out in recognition of Trump being unfit for the office of president!

    Brzezinski and Scarborough co-present the MSNBC breakfast show, Morning Joe, which has increasingly derided President Trump since he took office.

    Brzezinski is the daughter of the late Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was an aide to presidents Carter and Johnson, while Scarborough is a former Republican congressman. The couple are engaged to each other.



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