‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says

By Sarah Pulliam Bailey

Texas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Trump’s evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration, has released a statement saying the president has the moral authority to “take out” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

“When it comes to how we should deal with evildoers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil,” Jeffress said. “In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un.”

Jeffress said in a phone interview that he was prompted to make the statement after Trump said that if North Korea’s threats to the United States continue, Pyongyang will be “met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.”

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16 COMMENTS

  1. @OP – ‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says

    Apparently, God has also given Kim Jong Un, missiles to take out the US air base, where the bombers threatening his country operate!

    . .. but what would we expect when the deluded lunatics have taken over the asylum – with their fellow incumbents cheering them on!

  2. King #2
    Aug 9, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    So that’s where Trump got that statement from!

    I’m guessing, but he probably got his other Twittered “alternative facts” from similar low-information wish-thinking sources!

  3. @OP – God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil,” Jeffress said.

    Yep! – Those Iranian ayatollahs clearly got the message and are fighting these evils in determined manner! 🙂

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40880420

    Iranian officials have arrested six people accused of teaching Zumba dancing and trying to “change lifestyles”, media reports say.

    “The members of a network teaching and filming Western dances have been identified and arrested,” Hamid Damghani, a commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, was quoted as saying by local media outlets.

    “They were arrested by the Guards’ intelligence forces while teaching and creating video clips… as they sought to change lifestyles and promote a lack of hijab,” he said.

    Hijab rules govern the wearing of headscarves and clothing in public places by women, and dancing with the opposite sex is banned, except in front of immediate family members.

    They seem to have a problem with gays dancing with the same sex as well! – Although they do not mention that! 🙂

    But Zumba, the aerobics-dance hybrid popular in the West as a fitness class, has taken off in Iran despite the restrictions.

    In June this year, the country’s sporting federation said the exercise included “rhythmic motions and dance and are unlawful in any shape and title”.

    That was met with derision on social media, with many comparing the ban on Zumba in gyms to the hardline actions of the so-called Islamic State.

    But surely it is “offensive” to criticise Islamic rulings, when these people have a direct line to God(delusions)!
    Why does Trump not understand this when he has such “expert” advice available from evangelical advisers with their own spiritual hot-line? 🙂

  4. donnie86dc #6
    Aug 9, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    This is stupidity on a level never seen before.

    You are probably right, but Bush has been quoted as saying that God told him to invade Iraq (because of “weapons of mass destruction”)!

    Had Saddam actually retained his “weapons of mass destruction”, he might well have repulsed the US attack with his Scud missiles!

    The present chaos in the middle east is a consequence of that decision by Bush, – not to mention the Harvard calculation that the Iraq and Afghan wars cost the US between $4 and $6trillion! – Most of which was borrowed and is not yet repaid!

  5. Listening to that threat by Trump, I was half expecting him to break into that scene in Pulp Fiction with Samuel L. Jackson, “…and I will strike down with great vengeance and furious anger ….”

    And these are the people we want to manage our health care, shepherd the economy, and lead us by the still waters. And to think, I actually once thought Hillary was the more dangerous of the two.

  6. Six months ago I was joking about living under my house. That may be a reality if these two
    nutballs can’t stop themselves.

  7. rocket888

    And these are the people we want to manage our health care, shepherd the economy, and lead us by the still waters. And to think, I actually once thought Hillary was the more dangerous of the two.

    Great, great comment! Wow! Very few people (who thought the way you did about Trump and Hillary) have the character and integrity and openness to say what you just said. I don’t want to sound condescending but Bravo! Nice to see you again. I feel heartened by that comment. Why are so many people so unmovable, so recalcitrant? Maybe it’s genetic; a loyalty gene run amok?

    Alf,

    Hi! Trump and his team are so awful it isn’t even funny. (Not much of a comment, but mutual commiseration is salutary; pain shared is pain lessened.)

  8. The interesting thing is that once again the believers do not read their book but merely live on soundbites. Replication of whatever their authorities say. I started to look for what the book of Romans actually states and how this applies to nuking North Korea.

    I did not have to look very far: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/08/can-someone-school-me-on-romans-13/

    It is quite a stretch. This reads as a universal requirement to obey the authority under which you live. By default your leader is appointed by god – so kiss democracy goodbye – and also totalitarian leaders are cleared. You can take this further but why bother?

    The essence is that you can often find a quote in this big nonsensical book to justify whatever you want to say or do and if you can’t……. you can make it up. They’ll believe you anyway. That’s what believers do.

  9. Or maybe it’s just that St Paul, like religious leaders everywhere, understood the importance of keeping the state sweet, and the sound sense of trying to create some kind of symbiosis. Ir didn’t help him, they topped him none-the-less.

  10. Dan:

    Thanks for the kind words. But to be clear, I think there is a clear difference between Trump the candidate and Trump the president. That goes just as much for any of them. I was for Obama the candidate too (he ran on a promise of transparency and change). It seems that once any of these people get into office, it swallows them up. It’s why we need to rethink our approval of big government.

    I was for candidate Trump because he wanted to avoid a nuclear war. Now he is the complete opposite. What changed his mind? Was he simply lying all the time? I really don’t know, but I suspect he has given in to the military powers that love war.

    I just heard the recent interview with Richard Dawkins and he was asked about where his morality came from. He pointed out how it has changed even over decades. This tells me that we don’t have principles, only changing attitudes.

    My morality choice is based on one principle, and I don’t see this changing over time: All offensive force is evil. And I don’t give a pass to offensive force just because our (or any) government is doing the force. Perhaps when and if all humans hold this one principle above all others, we will finally live in peace and prosperity. Unfortunately, I don’t have much hope that this will come about and certainly not in my lifetime.

  11. @OP – ‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’

    Texas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress,
    one of President Trump’s evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration,
    has released a statement saying
    the president has the moral authority to “take out” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    I suppose there is an element of truth in that claim!

    After all;- a large number of god-delusions had their puppet humans vote for Trump, to empower him with the presidential authority to choose to apply his “alternative morals”! 🙂

  12. @OP – ‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’

    As I recall, G. W. Bush claimed God had given him the authority to take out Saddam Hussain: – and the mess he created is still all over the Middle East!

    . . . and the multi-trillion dollar debt borrowed to pay for the war, is still chalked up to the US taxpayers!

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