GOP rep on paying for flood loss: ‘At some point, God is telling you to move’

By Julia Manchester

Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) said on Thursday that it’s unreasonable for taxpayers to repeatedly pay for homes that have flooded, suggesting that homeowners move out of at-risk houses.

“We have these repetitive loss properties. So, for example, we have one property outside of Baton Rouge that has a modest home worth about $60,000 that’s flooded over 40 times. The taxpayers have paid almost half a million dollars for it,” Hensarling said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

“At some point, God is telling you to move,” he added.

“If all we do is force federal taxpayers to build the same home in the same fashion in the same location and expect a different result, we all know that is the classic definition of insanity,” he continued. 

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  1. @OP – Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) said on Thursday that it’s unreasonable for taxpayers to repeatedly pay for homes that have flooded, suggesting that homeowners move out of at-risk houses.

    It would be more reasonable to pay them to move to higher ground – and that the rebuild and move should be paid for by carbon polluting industries rather than taxpayers in general!

  2. Funny how the rich have an affinity for heights eh ? Away from the swampy ground and the biting insects. All those castles built on hill tops. The likes of Paul Allen and his Hawaiian fortress, well away from the current sea level, but no doubt with a jetty or two for super yachts to moor. But not too high, Zermatt and Klosters are all very well for a few week’s skiing , but not for the whole of the leisure season. Occasionally they deign to descend to the likes of lowly Chelsea or slightly higher Hampstead for their recreation. Life is so bloody hard being rich, I mean where do the kids go to school ? Wouldn’t the little buggers mixing with commoners now, would we ? Flooding ? Nae probs, have a super yacht or three, with anti missile defence system of you can afford it.

    Why should the rich have to pay for flooding in Texas and elsewhere ? Who else can do it !

  3. As to God telling people to move, I thought He made that quite clear in the Old Testament and Noah’s Flood : Fuck off you lot, I bloody hate you all.

  4. “God” is telling people to move?
    How about “god” not fucking up peoples lives? And how about not killing innocent people?
    If this is “god”, he is satan himself. (the religious invented him also anyway)

  5. @OP – GOP rep on paying for flood loss: ‘At some point, God is telling you to move’

    Meanwhile the people of Puerto Rico are telling Trump to get a move on!!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41405671

    Puerto Rico’s governor has appealed for federal help, warning the island is on the brink of a humanitarian crisis.

    The Trump administration is facing criticism over its response to the situation on the US island territory, which the storm has left without power.

    Meanwhile, 44% of the 3.5 million residents living on the island are still without clean drinking water six days after the storm barreled through, the Defence Department said on Tuesday.

    Mr Trump said the US was sending food, water and supplies on “an hourly basis”.

    Puerto Rico’s governor has appealed for federal help, warning the island is on the brink of a humanitarian crisis.

    Addressing criticism, the president said his administration was doing a “really good job” and that the Governor of Puerto Rico, Ricardo Rossello, was “so grateful”.

    He said rescue efforts were complicated because Puerto Rico was offshore. “It’s a big ocean, it’s a very big ocean. And we’re doing a really good job,” he said.

    “This is a thing called the Atlantic ocean, this is tough stuff,” he added.

    The president’s announcement came after the mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico, asked the US to put “people above debt”.

    Mayor Carmin Yulin’s comments to CNN followed tweets by President Trump saying the island’s $72bn (£53bn) debt needed to be addressed amid its appeal for relief aid.

    “When someone is in a life or death situation,” the mayor said, “there is a human, moral imperative to deal with that situation before dealing with anything else.”

    She also said two patients on life support died on Monday because a hospital ran out of diesel, CBS News reports.

    The island’s government asked a judge on Monday to defer key deadlines in its bankruptcy case as it grapples with Maria’s devastation.

    Meanwhile, Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rossello called for more rapid relief efforts, “otherwise, there will be… a massive exodus to the [mainland] United States”.

    Mr Trump has come under fire for focusing on a feud with NFL players and coaches instead of disaster relief in the devastated US territory.

    The White House on Monday rejected criticism that the Trump administration has been slow to respond in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.

    Maria, which struck last Wednesday, left more than a dozen people dead in Puerto Rico, knocking out electricity, water and telephone services.

    Officials in Puerto Rico say it could be months before power is fully restored, which could hinder access to clean water, safe food and medical supplies.

  6. Alan, This Asshole Trump thinks PR is not really part the the US. I don’t care either way. People need help after an event.
    We have C17’s that could get there in an hour.

  7. I keep coming across debates in our country about increasing the amount of green energy and storage and I’m getting heartily sick seeing comparisons of the price of coal as whatever $/MWh compared to wind and solar PV at whatever $/MWh. Nowhere is there any attempt to add the cost of some of these events into the costings. Now very hard to prove any one event is caused by AGW but the frequencies and severities of these events have been predicted to increase. About time we all started to add the cost of repairing whole cities onto the $/MWh costing for fossil fuels I think.

  8. alf1200 #6
    Sep 26, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Alan,
    This Asshole Trump thinks PR is not really part the the US.
    I don’t care either way. People need help after an event.
    We have C17’s that could get there in an hour.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41452995

    The mayor, who is living in a shelter after her home was destroyed, said Puerto Rico is set to be without power for six to eight months after the storm damaged 90% of homes on the island.

    Almost half the island’s 3.4 million population are without drinking water, the US Defence Department said on Thursday.

    Efforts are being made on the island to clear road access and restore hospitals to working conditions.

    Ah! but to the trumpie mind, there is a crucial difference!

    Puerto Rico is a US territory but does not have direct voting representation.

  9. Enough is enough.

    As I said on another thread, and as most of you know, Carmen Yulín Cruz, the fine mayor of San Juan, has been begging Trump to do something to prevent suffering and death. No power! Patients in nursing homes and hospitals can’t get treatment! Not enough food and water! And we’re supposed to be “great”. His failure to provide relief and FEMA’s malfeasance may be by design; if that’s the case; she’s right: this might constitute a form of genocide.

    Trump has been lying about FEMA and the relief effort. Right out of the Goebbels play-book.

    On top of that Trump went on another twitter storm today attacking the mayor for criticizing him and the relief effort!

    SICK!

    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
    The Fake News Networks are working overtime in Puerto Rico doing their best to take the spirit away from our soldiers and first R’s. Shame!

    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
    The Mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only a few days ago [Really?], has now been told by the Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump.

    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
    …Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help. They….

  10. Dan #9
    Oct 1, 2017 at 12:17 am

    Donald J. Trump ✔@real [Dunning-Kruger] DonaldTrump
    Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help. They….

    The mayor – while herself living in a shelter, and 90% of the workers’ homes damaged, can’t get the people, to stop looking for food, water and shelter, and relieve Trump of responsibility!

    Meanwhile Trump, with the resources of the richest nation on the planet, a huge military machine, satellite monitoring of the disaster areas, and as many relief, infrastructure and transportation specialists as he needs to consult, cannot effectively seek and use their advice, so presumably keeps asking his useless muppet appointees, {EPA chief on Irma: The time to talk climate change isn’t now} and can’t get his act together!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41398263

    Does Trump care about Puerto Rico’s hurricane victims? 26 September 2017

    The warning from Puerto Rico’s governor in the wake of Hurricane Maria was stark: act now, or risk a humanitarian disaster.

    A quick glance at Donald Trump’s Twitter feed over the weekend – arguably the president’s preferred method of communication – gave no hint of the unfolding humanitarian crisis.

    Instead, his attention was firmly focused on whether or not American footballers knelt or stood during the national anthem.

    Number of Trump tweets about pro sports since Friday: 20

    Number of Trump tweets about Puerto Rico since Friday: 0
    12:31 AM – Sep 26, 2017

    The president finally acknowledged the disaster on Monday evening – although his response appeared to link Puerto Rico’s hurricane woes with its debt crisis.
    is too busy Twittering about footballers, and can’t get his own act together – while having the gall to accuse others of “poor leadership”!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41398263

    Does Trump care about Puerto Rico’s hurricane victims? 26 September 2017

    The warning from Puerto Rico’s governor in the wake of Hurricane Maria was stark: act now, or risk a humanitarian disaster.

    A quick glance at Donald Trump’s Twitter feed over the weekend – arguably the president’s preferred method of communication – gave no hint of the unfolding humanitarian crisis.

    Instead, his attention was firmly focused on whether or not American footballers knelt or stood during the national anthem.

    Number of Trump tweets about pro sports since Friday: 20

    Number of Trump tweets about Puerto Rico since Friday: 0
    12:31 AM – Sep 26, 2017

    The president finally acknowledged the disaster on Monday evening – although his response appeared to link Puerto Rico’s hurricane woes with its debt crisis.

    Of course we have to make allowances for him being taken by surprise!
    After all he only had warning from those “false news” sciency meteorologists, and interpretations from NASA climate monitoring satellites on weather forecasts! 🙂

  11. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41452995

    Puerto Rico: Trump lashes out at San Juan mayor over Maria response 30 September 2017

    The mayor, who is living in a shelter after her home was destroyed, said Puerto Rico is set to be without power for six to eight months after the storm damaged 90% of homes on the island.

    More bad weather is in the offing, with the National Weather Service in San Juan warning that a strong thunderstorm would imminently affect the east of the island, with torrential rain and strong winds expected.

    The US military general in charge of the relief operation said on Friday that about 4,500 troops were already involved.

    Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump…want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. 10,000 Federal workers now on Island doing a fantastic job. 12:29 PM – Sep 30, 2017

    Yea! I mean without power or working phones, they will just order food, water and tents for themselves, from the nearest takeaway or camping shop!
    Wooops! That’s hundreds of miles away and probably on other hurricane devastated islands!

    The US Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) said 95% of the island remained without power and 55% of people did not yet have access to drinking water, but that most petrol stations had reopened.

    Concerns were raised on Thursday that thousands of shipping containers of aid were sitting in a San Juan undistributed. Ground transportation has been hindered by a lack of fuel and blocked roads.

    The US navy has deployed a hospital ship and has assigned engineers to repair the island’s damaged power grid, the US Department of Defense said on Friday.

    Telling homeless, thirsty, starving people, what a GREAT relief effort you have organised for them while they are still homeless, thirsty and starving, is probably not a very GREAT idea, but those 60,166 immersed in Trump delusions, who liked Trump’s tweet about federal workers doing a fantastic job, would probably not spot something like that from their US mainland armchairs!

  12. Donald J. Trump ✔@real [Dunning-Kruger] DonaldTrump

    BTW: The ✔ in the link really does illustrate the childish schoolboy nature of Trump – who gives himself a ✔ in posts which usually get everything WRONG, and gratuitously insult and denigrate critics into the bargain! !

    Donald J. Trump X@fake-president [Dunning-Kruger] DonaldTrump

  13. So while Trump twitters abuse and self-congratulation, – as Republican deniers look for “messages from god”, the scientific and technological innovators and the locals – allegedly “with such poor leadership ability”, are coming up with real long-term answers!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41524220

    Renewable energy entrepreneur Elon Musk says he could rebuild Puerto Rico’s shattered electrical infrastructure with his solar energy technology.

    The vast majority of the island territory remains without power, weeks after it was hit by Hurricane Maria.

    On Twitter, Mr Musk said his technology, which powers several smaller islands, could be scaled up to work for Puerto Rico.

    The island’s governor responded to Mr Musk with the message: “Let’s talk”.

    “Do you want to show the world the power and scalability of your Tesla technologies? Puerto Rico could be that flagship project,” the Governor of Puerto Rico, Ricardo Rossello, said.

    Mr Musk’s Tesla company is best known for its electric cars, but it also incorporates SolarCity – a solar panel firm which specialises in efficiently storing large amounts of electricity in power banks.

    The company says it has powered small islands, such as Ta’u in American Samoa. There, it installed a solar grid which can power the entire island and store enough electricity for three days without any sun.

    “The Tesla team has done this for many smaller islands around the world, but there is no scalability limit, so it can be done for Puerto Rico, too,” Mr Musk tweeted.

  14. @OP – ‘At some point, God is telling you to move’

    Actually it is the local officials who tell people to move – and with climate change, that is likely to happen on a progressively more regular and frequent basis!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41536192

    A state of emergency has been declared in four southern US states with Hurricane Nate gathering strength as it heads towards the Gulf Coast.

    Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and parts of Florida have issued hurricane warnings and evacuation orders.

    The measures apply to parts of the city of New Orleans, which was devastated by Hurricane Katrina 12 years ago.

    Nate killed at least 25 people as it swept through Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Honduras as a tropical storm.

    Though not as strong as last month’s Maria and Irma, Nate will still bring strong winds and storm surges. Its latest recorded wind speeds reached 90mph (150km/h).

    Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards has declared a state of emergency ahead of the hurricane, which is due to make landfall on Saturday night local time.

    He said more than 1,000 National Guard troops had been mobilised with a number sent to New Orleans to monitor the drainage pumps there. “Anyone in low-lying areas… we are urging them to prepare now,” he said.

    A mandatory curfew from 18:00 (23:00 GMT) is in place in New Orleans.

    “Nate is at our doorstep, or will be soon,” the city’s Mayor Mitch Landrieu said, adding that the winds could cause significant power outages.

    Oil companies were evacuating staff from platforms in the Gulf of Mexico ahead of the storm.

    Nate caused heavy rains, landslides and floods which blocked roads, destroyed bridges and damaged houses as it tore through central America.

    At least 13 people died in Nicaragua, eight in Costa Rica, three in Honduras and one in El Salvador.

    Thousands have been forced to sleep in shelters and some 400,000 people in Costa Rica were reported to be without running water.

    Unsurprisingly, this policy of “Deny the Science, and ask God what to do”, does not seem to be working, so at least SOME political leaders are listening to the meteorologists!

  15. I see that having sat in denial of climate change for years, with no concept of the scale of damage to the planet, once the costs of the consequent disasters arise, people can count on Trump to blame the victims, and try to dodge paying for the damage!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41598616

    US President Donald Trump has griped about emergency relief efforts in hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico, saying federal aid cannot continue “forever”.

    In tweets, he accused Puerto Rico of a “total lack of accountability”, adding that “electric and all infrastructure was disaster before hurricanes”.

    The island, whose 3.4 million residents are US citizens, is 90% without power, some three weeks after Hurricane Maria.

    Congress is weighing a multi-billion dollar aid package for the territory.

    Lawmakers are expected to approve $36.5bn (£28bn) in emergency storm relief for Puerto Rico, Florida, Texas and the US Virgin Islands, as well as wildfire-ravaged California.

    In Thursday’s tweets, the US president noted it was up to “Congress to decide how much to spend”.

    But he added: “We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

    It comes a week after US Vice-President Pence pledged the administration would be with Puerto Rico “every step of the way”, as he visited the island.

    “There is still devastation, Americans are still dying. FEMA needs to stay until the job is done,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer replied on Twitter, using the acronym for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

    Puerto Rico-born congresswoman Nydia Velazquez, another New York Democrat, tweeted that Mr Trump’s latest comments were “outrageous, indefensible and irresponsible”.

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