Marriage Equality Opponents in Australia Have Embarrassingly Bad Arguments

Sep 20, 2017

By Hemant Mehta

Australians are debating whether to legalize marriage equality, and just as we saw in our own country, religious people are coming out against it using the worst possible arguments.

Former tennis star and current bigot Margaret Court said back in May that the LGBTQ movement brainwashes children, just like Hitler did. Since that argument didn’t go over so well, she recently tried a new one:

Mrs Court, a Christian minister based in Osborne Park, said the consequences of a Yes vote would be severe.

“It’s not about marriage. It will affect Christian schools, it will affect freedom of speech,” she said.

“There will be no Mother’s Day, there will be no Father’s Day, there will be no Easter, there will be no Christmas.”

I don’t quite get the logic there. If gay people can get married, then Jesus didn’t rise from the dead? Will we not have parents anymore? Will people spend so much money on gay weddings that they have nothing left to spend on Christmas gifts? WHY CAN’T SHE EXPLAIN?!

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12 comments on “Marriage Equality Opponents in Australia Have Embarrassingly Bad Arguments

  • @OP – link – Former tennis star and current bigot Margaret Court said back in May that the LGBTQ movement brainwashes children, just like Hitler did.

    Tennis star! – She had fast reflexes and could bat a ball!

    It seems her indoctrinated knee-jerk reflexes, also take no time over decision making!

    The psychological projection of the brainwashed know-it-all, is a regular feature of faith-thinkers!

    Her thinking essentially is;-
    “I think by brainwashed knee-jerk responses from indoctrination, THEREFORE, so does everyone else – because I am too ignorant and uneducated to comprehend any other forms of thinking” (such as evidence-based rationality)!

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  • Former tennis star and current bigot Margaret Court said back in May that the LGBTQ movement brainwashes children

    Typical of the brainwashed amongst us; when confronted with ideas that threaten their installed ideology – accuse others of being brainwashed!


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  • Former tennis star and current bigot Margaret Court said back in May
    that the LGBTQ movement brainwashes children

    Quite right too! They need a to be dipped in a bath of logic to disinfect them from the infections their parents carry around from thousands of years of fear.

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  • Meanwhile in Germany:-

    Two men have become the first gay couple to marry in Germany, on the day gay marriage became legal there.

    Karl Kreile and Bodo Mende, a couple for 38 years, exchanged their vows at the town hall in Schöneberg, Berlin.

    Registry offices in several German cities were opening, unusually, on Sunday to allow couples to wed on the first day it was legally possible.

    Getting married will give gay couples the same tax advantages and adoption rights as heterosexual couples.

    Germany has allowed same-sex partners to enter into registered partnerships since 2001, but these did not give couples exactly the same status in German law as marriage.

    The German parliament voted to introduce marriage equality in June, after Chancellor Angela Merkel unexpectedly dropped her longstanding opposition to parliament holding a vote on the issue.

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    During her 2013 election campaign, Mrs Merkel argued against gay marriage on the grounds of “children’s welfare,” and admitted that she had a “hard time” with the issue.

    But in an on-stage interview with the women’s magazine Brigitte on 26 June, she shocked the German media by saying, in response to an audience member’s question, that she had noted other parties’ support for gay marriage, and would allow a free vote at an unspecified time in the future.

    The usually-cautious chancellor said she had had a “life-changing experience” in her home constituency, where she met a lesbian couple who cared for eight foster children together.

    Ah! A “Christian Democrat” actually letting objective observation intrude a little on the preconceptions of Christian dogma!!

    Mrs Merkel’s current coalition partners – the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD), who are trailing Mrs Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU) in opinion polls – then seized the political initiative.

    They called for a vote by the time parliament went into summer recess at the end of the week – prompting Mrs Merkel to complain she’d been “ambushed”.

    Does same-sex marriage have popular support?

    Yes – a recent survey by the government’s anti-discrimination agency found that 83% of Germans were in favour of marriage equality.

    The day after the Republic of Ireland voted to legalise gay marriage in May 2015, almost every German newspaper splashed a rainbow across its front page.

    “It’s time, Mrs Merkel” Green party leader Katrin Goering-Eckhart said then. “The Merkel faction cannot just sit out the debate on marriage for everyone.”

    The right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) is now the only party to oppose same-sex marriage.

    But conservatives within Mrs Merkel’s own CDU were against a change – as was the CDU’s Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), whose votes Mrs Merkel needs in the September election.

    Commentators say this partly explains why she has rejected a vote on marriage equality until now – and why she was taken off-guard by the snap vote.

    Where else in Europe has same-sex marriage?

    A host of European countries have beaten Germany to a same-sex marriage law.

    Civil marriages are legally recognised in Norway, Sweden, Denmark (excluding the Faroe Islands), Finland, Iceland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Luxembourg, France, the UK (except Northern Ireland and Jersey), and the Republic of Ireland.

    But in Austria and Italy – as in Germany before Friday’s vote- gay couples are restricted to civil partnerships.

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  • Meanwhile the backward Anglican church leadership, is fighting those Christians who want to treat people in their congregations as equals!

    The Scottish Episcopal Church is to be excluded from ecumenical and leadership roles in the Anglican Communion, the Archbishop of Canterbury has said.

    The decision follows the SEC’s vote to begin marrying same-sex couples.

    The Most Rev Justin Welby set out the decision in a news conference mid-way through a week-long meeting of Anglican primates in Canterbury.

    He said: “There were a lot of expressions of disappointment, strong feelings from many of the provinces.”

    The archbishop said the consequences were agreed unanimously. He said he felt “very sad” about the decision.

    “People were disappointed, they were angry but it was a very different mood to previous primates’ meetings,” he added.

    Oh dear! The busy-bodies’ god delusions are most upset, at not being able to dictate to everyone!

    “It was more like a family having to face the fact that something’s happened that is causing grief, than a club that doesn’t like one of its members.”

    Oh the “grief” of the poor little “victimised” god-delusions watching people they like to disparage being treated as equals – with equal rights – and as full members of their club too!

    ‘Love means love’

    In June, the SEC voted to amend canon law and allow same-sex couples to be married in church during its General Synod in Edinburgh.

    The first same-sex Anglican church wedding in the UK took place in Edinburgh last month.

    Other same-sex weddings have been held in churches in Glasgow and Moray since.

    The Scottish Episcopal Church expected to be sanctioned by the Anglican Communion.

    SEC members voted to remove the doctrinal clause which stated that marriage is a “union of one man and one woman”, replacing it with a clause which asserts that clergy who do not wish to preside over same-sex weddings will not be compelled to do so “against their conscience”.

    The Secretary General of the Anglican Communion had previously said the SEC’s decision puts it “at odds with the majority stance that marriage is the lifelong union of a man and a woman”.

    So while the Scottish Episcopal Church is prepared to respect its clergy who take a different personal view, the Anglican Communion does not!

    Not much of a surprise – coming as it does from the thinking processes of doctrinal faith!

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  • @OP – Marriage Equality Opponents in Australia Have Embarrassingly Bad Arguments

    It looks like Trump will add US contributions to that Australian list of “bad arguments” – and of course to his more extensive personal repertoire of “bad arguments” on a whole string of subjects – about which he regularly pontificates, but knows nothing about!

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