U.S. Votes Against U.N. Ban On Death Penalty For Homosexuality

Oct 3, 2017

by Dan Avery

A United Nations resolution banning the death penalty for homosexuality was opposed by a total of 13 countries in the U.N. Human Rights Council. While several were in Africa and the Middle East, the U.S. surprisingly voted against the measure, as well.

Fortunately the resolution passed on Friday anyway, with 27 countries voting for the measure.

It was brought forward by eight nations—Belgium, Benin, Costa Rica, France, Mexico, Moldova, Mongolia, and Switzerland—who have made global LGBT rights a priority. (Maltese Prime Minister Joseph Muscat, Costa Rican Vice President Ana Helena Chacón and other world leaders attended a U.N. LGBT Core Group meeting earlier in the month.)

“This is a monumental moment where the international community has publicly highlighted that these horrific laws simply must end,” said Renato Sabbadini, director of The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA). “It is unconscionable to think that there are hundreds of millions of people living in states where somebody may be executed simply because of whom they love.”

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13 comments on “U.S. Votes Against U.N. Ban On Death Penalty For Homosexuality

  • While several were in Africa and the Middle East,
    the U.S. surprisingly voted against the measure, as well.

    That would be consistent with the delusional reactionary Trump approach of supporting the most perverse individuals, and policies!

    Fortunately the resolution passed on Friday anyway, with 27 countries voting for the measure.

    It looks like the reasonable reality-based people of the world are going to have to continue to compensate for the lunacy of Trumpery for some time yet!

    A United Nations resolution banning the death penalty for homosexuality was opposed by a total of 13 countries in the U.N. Human Rights Council.

    The real question which SHOULD be being debated, is why these 13 countries are permitted representation on the Human Rights Council , when they clearly have no competence to speak on those subjects?

    This just shows up the UN as the propagandists’ talking-shop, which many suspect it is!



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  • Alan

    Yet another move by Trump and the Republican Right, into 3rd world backwardness!

    I’ll second that. Absolutely disgraceful. And read the comments under the linked article above. This is what we’re dealing with here in the US of A.

    From the article:

    The resolution doesn’t call for the end to capital punishment altogether, but asks member nations not to use it in a “discriminatory manner”—including against against minors and pregnant women, or for blasphemy and consensual same-sex relations.

    We can’t even support this very basic principle of ethics never mind getting rid of barbaric capital punishment in the first place. In many ways we are stuck in medieval times.

    The other countries who voted against the resolution were Bangladesh, Botswana, Burundi, China, Japan, Qatar, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Iraq, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia (which currently has the death penalty for sodomy).

    This is the company we keep? Might as well go back to having a public executioner while we’re at it.



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  • What does a UN ban mean?

    If some country doesn’t adhere to the ban what happens then? I’d imagine that stoning women and executing homosexuals is often done secretly. If not who do you punish and how? How does one enforce such a ban?

    And why was this ban never voted on before? And how does “a country” vote? Who does the voting? Is it a group? What group? Does that odious and corrupt minority Nikki Haley get to vote for us? and is her vote our vote? That wouldn’t be fair. Maybe someone can explain that to me.

    Trump only picks the best. Best means worst.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/nikki-haleys-pay-play-politics/

    (I am appalled too at the US’s “vote”, although not entirely surprised, and confused.)



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  • Meanwhile – back in the world of realism, objective measuring techniques, and away from abuse, repression, and denial!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41498713

    More young people in the UK identify as LGB, ONS finds

    Around one in 25 young people in the UK identify as lesbian, gay or bisexual, new figures suggest.

    The Office for National Statistics said 4.1% of 16 to 24-year-olds identified as LGB, up from 3.3% in 2015.

    Across all ages, the ONS noted a “statistically significant increase”, with 2% of the population – more than a million people – identifying as LGB last year, compared with 1.7% in 2015.

    Some 2.3% of UK men said they were LGB, compared with 1.6% of women.

    Scotland had the highest LGB population in the UK last year, with 2.2%, while England followed with 1.9%.

    Northern Ireland and Wales both reported an LBG population of 1.7%.

    London remained the region with the highest proportion of the population identifying as LGB, 2.7% – a slight rise on the previous year’s figure of 2.6%.

    Some 4.3% of the population with a mixed ethnicity identified as LBG, compared to 2% of the white population, while 0.9% of Asians and 0.9% of black, African or Caribbean people did so.

    More than half of the mixed ethnic LBG community (2.4%) identified themselves as bisexual compared with those who identified as gay or lesbian (1.9%).

    Just over 70% of the LGB population were most likely to be single, never married or civil partnered, the figures suggested, a pattern thought to reflect the young age structure of the community, as well as the fairly recent introduction of same-sex marriage in 2014.

    Of the 2% of the UK population identifying as LGB, 1.2% said they were gay or lesbian, while 0.8% identified as bisexual.

    Women are more likely to identify as bisexual than men, the ONS said.

    Some 0.5% of the population identified as “other”, meaning they did not consider themselves to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or straight.

    Meanwhile, 4.1% said they “did not know” or refused to comment.

    The ONS estimates are based on data from the Annual Population Survey and measure sexual identity, which does not necessarily reflect sexual attraction or behaviour.

    It is likely that similar percentages exist in other countries where their presence is hidden by repressive laws!



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  • @#1 – The real question which SHOULD be being debated, is why these 13 countries are permitted representation on the Human Rights Council, when they clearly have no competence to speak on those subjects?

    ……………..

    @#4 – . . . . and Saudi Arabia (which currently has the death penalty for sodomy).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41501672

    Yemen war: UN ‘to blacklist Saudi coalition for killing children’

    A Saudi-led multinational coalition fighting in Yemen has been included on a draft United Nations list of parties that kill and maim children in war.

    The text says the coalition’s actions resulted in 683 child casualties during 2016, and accuses it of carrying out 38 attacks on schools and hospitals.



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  • @#7 – A Saudi-led multinational coalition fighting in Yemen has been included on a draft United Nations list of parties that kill and maim children in war.

    However! Neither the US nor Russia, seem to care! They seem to think it is the Saudi regime and its oil, which need protecting! – and of course when it comes to the arms industry and oil money, “business is business”!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41532889

    The US government has approved the sale to Saudi Arabia of its advanced Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (Thaad) missile defence system.

    The State Department said the $15bn (£11.5bn) deal furthered US national security and foreign policy interests.

    It would boost Saudi and Gulf security against Iranian and other regional threats, the state department added.

    The announcement comes a day after Saudi Arabia agreed to buy air defence systems from Russia.

    The deal would not alter the military balance in the region, the Pentagon’s Defense Security Co-operation Agency said.

    Thaad systems are being deployed in South Korea to protect against a possible missile attack from North Korea.

    But many South Koreans have objected, fearing it would become a target and endanger the lives of those who live near its launch sites.

    China also voiced opposition to the system, saying it would affect the regional security balance.

    By Sebastian Usher, BBC Arab Affairs analyst

    This latest multi-billion-dollar deal will help satisfy the Trump administration’s desire to be seen to be protecting and increasing jobs at home.

    Donald Trump has also made it abundantly clear that he is completely in tune with the Saudi view of Iran as the biggest threat in the region – which is a key rationale behind this new Saudi spending spree.

    He may be less pleased, though about the arms deal the Saudis agreed with Russia during King Salman’s visit to Moscow this week.

    It showed perhaps how Riyadh is hedging its bets, as US influence has been diminishing in the Middle East.



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  • @#8 – Donald Trump has also made it abundantly clear that he is completely in tune with the Saudi view of Iran as the biggest threat in the region

    However – sucking up to fundamentalist Saudi Arabia is not enough!
    Sucking up to Zionist Israel, is also on the Trump menu! – along with de-funding anything of community value!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41598991

    The US is pulling out of the UN’s cultural organisation Unesco, accusing it of “anti-Israel” bias.

    The agency is known for designating world heritage sites such as Syria’s Palmyra and the US Grand Canyon.

    The state department said it was also concerned about mounting financial arrears at Unesco and said the agency needed to be reformed.

    Unesco head Irina Bokova said the withdrawal was a matter of “profound regret”.

    She admitted however that “politicisation” had “taken its toll” on the organisation in recent years.

    The withdrawal represented a loss to the “UN family” and to multilateralism, Ms Bokova added.

    It will become effective at the end of December 2018. Until then the US will remain a full member. The US will establish an observer mission at the Paris-based organisation to replace its representation, the state department said.

    The decision follows a string of Unesco decisions that have drawn criticism from the US and Israel.

    In 2011 the US cut much of its funding to the agency in protest at its decision to grant full membership to the Palestinians.

    And last year, Israel suspended cooperation with Unesco after the agency adopted a controversial resolution which made no reference to Jewish ties to a key holy site in Jerusalem.

    The resolution also criticised Israel’s activities at holy places in Jerusalem and the occupied West Bank.

    Then earlier this year, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned Unesco for declaring the Old City of Hebron in the West Bank a World Heritage site.

    The US withdrawal is also motivated by a desire to save money, Foreign Policy magazine reported. The US currently provides $80m (£60m) a year to the organisation.



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  • I see that that regular ignorer of UN resolutions on Zionist apartheid, is following the Trumpist lead – or maybe the two were in cahoots to start with?

    Israel announces it will withdraw from UN cultural agency Unesco, hours after US says it is pulling out



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  • It seems that as Iran won’t kowtow to Saudi Arabia and Israel, Tump has decided (against advice from various competent sources), to claim that this entitles him to unilaterally renege on the Multinational Iran Nuclear agreement.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-41618165

    Global powers, including key US allies, have said they will stand by the Iran nuclear deal which US President Donald Trump has threatened to tear apart.

    International observers say Iran has been in full compliance with the agreement.

    Yukiya Amano, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said Iran was implementing the deal and was subject to “the world’s most robust nuclear verification regime”.

    In a combative speech on Friday, Mr Trump called Iran a “fanatical regime” and said it had violated the terms of the deal.
    He accused Iran of sponsoring terrorism, and proposed new sanctions.

    He announced Treasury Department sanctions on Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards, which he called the “corrupt personal terror force of Iran’s leader”, and called for restrictions on Iran’s ballistic missile programme, which is not covered by the deal.

    The deal, signed in 2015, is between Iran and six international powers – the UK, the US, Russia, France, Germany, and China. It imposed curbs on Iran’s nuclear programme in return for an easing of international sanctions.

    European diplomats warned that any such unilateral changes to the agreement were likely to trigger the deal’s collapse and a return to a nuclear standoff in the Middle East.

    In other reaction:

    EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said
    Europe and the world "could not afford"
    to terminate a nuclear deal that was working, "especially now"

    French President Emmanuel Macron
    assured Mr Rouhani of France's commitment to the deal
    in a phone call and is considering visiting Iran, his office said

    "This deal lives to fight another day and that's a good thing,"
    said UK Foreign Minister Boris Johnson

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu congratulated Mr Trump,
    who he said had "boldly confronted Iran's terrorist regime".

    Saudi Arabia also backed the US president's "firm strategy"

    The USA really needs to urgently get its Adult Psychiatric Daycare Centre under control!



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  • @#12 link – Global powers, including key US allies,
    have said they will stand by the Iran nuclear deal
    which US President Donald Trump has threatened to tear apart.

    International observers say Iran has been in full compliance with the agreement.

    Yukiya Amano, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA),
    said Iran was implementing the deal
    and was subject to
    “the world’s most robust nuclear verification regime”.

    -0000000000000-
    In a combative speech on Friday, Mr Trump called Iran a
    “fanatical regime”
    and said it had violated the terms of the deal.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41664231

    Iran nuclear deal: Khamenei denounces Trump’s ‘rants and whoppers’

    “I don’t want to waste time on answering the rants and whoppers of the brute US president,” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said.

    Mr Trump has refused to certify to the US Congress that Iran is complying with the terms of the deal.

    He has threatened to terminate the Obama-era agreement altogether.

    The American leader called for the deal to be amended to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons or intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    Ayatollah Khamenei said he welcomed expressions of support for the accord from European states but if the US tore up the deal, Iran would “shred it to bits”.

    Congress must now decide whether to reimpose some economic sanctions that were lifted as part of the nuclear deal in return for Iran limiting sensitive nuclear activities.
    If that were to happen, the US would in effect be in violation of the terms.

    Hopefully the congressional debates will shed light on Trump’s stupidity and psychological projection, and block his foolishness.

    Other world leaders, who may be contemplating entering into agreements with the USA, will no doubt, be noting its compliance or non-compliance, with deals where it is called upon to honour its side of the bargain!



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