Creationist dinosaur program stirs controversy

Feb 1, 2018

By Deron Molen

EFFINGHAM, Ill. (WAND) — For Jeanette Bushur’s kids, dinosaurs are dynamite. But this past Saturday, she says they got more than they bargained for at Central Grade School in Effingham.

“[They said] tyrannosaurus rexes ate vegetables,” Bushur said. “[They said] there were dinosaurs with Noah on the ark and that evolution was a myth.”

A dinosaur exhibit on creationism.

“We thought it would be something like a museum that you could walk through and see individual exhibits,” Bushur’s boyfriend Daniel Douglas said.

The Creation Truth Foundation put on the event at Central as well as another presentation at Christ’s Church in Effingham.

“I think it was something that was done with the best intentions and we definitely appreciate that,” Douglas said. “We were just not expecting it to be what it was.”

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  • @-OP – The Creation Truth Foundation put on the event at Central as well as another presentation at Christ’s Church in Effingham.

    Ah! that asserted trrroooof – beloved of the all-knowing ignoramuses with their “alternative facts”, and delusional denials of reality!

    “I think it was something that was done with the best intentions

    Nope!
    It was done with a delusional need for feeble views and indoctrinated beliefs, held by the weak-minded, to be proped up by constant reassertion!

    it was something that was done with the best intentions and we definitely appreciate that,” Douglas said. “We were just not expecting it to be what it was.”

    The on intension of deeply indoctrinated, is to win afterlife Brownie points, (and a bit of enhanced status from their fellow deluded), by actively promoting the spread of their god-delusions and the associated goofy doctrines!

    We must remember, that in “faith-thinking” the more ludicrous the asserted denial of material reality, the stronger is the demonstration of “faith”!

    “[They said] Tyrannosaurus rexes ate vegetables,” Bushur said. “[They said] there were dinosaurs with Noah on the ark

    Of course we should remember that any scraps of actual information about the existence of dinosaurs, has been produced by palaeontologists using real science, before YEC fantasists wove in scraps of this information (copied from real science books), to enhance the stories which they now distribute to their uneducated followers!

    The use of the name “** Tyrannosaurus rex**” is also, of course, using the biological evolution based, INTERNATIONAL CODE OF ZOOLOGICAL NOMENCLATURE.

    Ordinary languages grow spontaneously in innumerable directions; but biological nomenclature has to be an exact tool that will convey a precise meaning for persons in all generations“.

    The 4th edition of the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature, like the preceding editions and before them the Règles internationales de la Nomenclature zoologique, has one fundamental aim, which is to provide the maximum universality and continuity in the scientific names of animals compatible with the freedom of scientists to classify animals according to taxonomic judgments.

    . . . But like the rest of any factual scraps they have gleaned to put in the pseudo-science mix, the YECs just copied that from real scientists!



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  • “[They said] tyrannosaurus rexes ate vegetables,” Bushur said.

    Never mind the very complex digestive system required for an animal to convert vegetable matter into assimilable nutrients, we have no fossil evidence of the digestive system of T. rex. But we do have full fossil evidence of T. rex dentition. Only a certain kind of dentition is suitable for cutting or pulling off vegetation and, more importantly, grinding it down and mixing it with saliva-borne chemicals into an ingestible form for processing in the digestive system, and T. rex dentition is entirely unlike that. T. rex dentition is entirely suited for slicing and tearing off pieces of flesh, which are then gulped down. No molars and no need for them.

    Such basic observation and deduction is easily performed by any high school biology student with average intelligence and common sense. If it is so obvious from the ample evidence available that T. rex was not herbivorous but entirely carnivorous, what is one to make of those responsible for the exhibit described in the article, with its claim that T. rex was herbivorous? Yes, they are obviously people who have been indoctrinated in a fundamentalistic form of Christianity that insists on a literal reading of the Book of Genesis, for no better reason than that that is what their mamas and others told them when they were little. In defence of this quaint view of the origins of the world and its lifeforms, they choose to ignore the ample evidence found by scientists that contradicts it.

    While one must accord the members of the Creation Truth [cough] Foundation their freedom to believe as they see fit, one must also protect children and others in society from what objective evidence clearly indicates to be misinformation propagated by such exhibits, especially if people pay to see them. The members of the said foundation are indeed entitled to believe whatever they like, but they are not entitled to propagate falsehoods by deceptive means — the public, and especially children (who seem to be the main targets of the above-mentioned exhibit), are entitled to protection against peddlars of misinformation and lies. There may therefore be grounds for legal action against the said foundation (at least in Britain and similar countries, but perhaps not in the USA), not on account of their beliefs but on account of the manifest falsehoods stated in their public exhibits aimed at children and made accessible for a fee.



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  • @OP – Creationist dinosaur program stirs controversy

    That title is not quite right!

    Creationist dinosaur program desperately tries to invent pseudo-controversy, to prop up lame YEC claims!

    Among palaeontologists there is no controversy whatever that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago or that they evolved from the earlier amphibians!



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  • Meanwhile – back in the world of real scientific discovery and education about plant-eating dinosaurs!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42860263

    A new species of dinosaur found in the Egyptian desert is shedding light on Africa’s missing history of dinosaurs.

    Few fossils have been unearthed from the last days of the dinosaurs, between 100 and 66 million years ago, on the continent.

    Scientists say the dinosaur, which lived about 80 million years ago, is an “incredible discovery”.

    The giant plant-eater was the length of a school bus and weighed about the same as an elephant.

    It had a long neck and bony plates embedded in its skin.

    The dinosaur’s fossilised remains were unearthed during an expedition by palaeontologists from Mansoura University in Egypt.

    Named Mansourasaurus shahinae, the new species is regarded as a critical discovery for science.

    “It was thrilling for my students to uncover bone after bone, as each new element we recovered helped to reveal who this giant dinosaur was,” said Dr Hesham Sallam of Mansoura University, who led the research.

    Dinosaur fossils in Africa are rare as much of the land is now covered in lush vegetation, rather than the exposed rock that has yielded dinosaur treasure troves elsewhere.



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