Chaffetz: Florida school shooting survivors ‘need a belief in God and Jesus Christ’

Mar 2, 2018

By Rebecca Savransky

Former Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said he thinks the survivors of the Florida high school shooting who returned to school Wednesday need a “belief in God and Jesus Christ,” noting that he thinks it “would help” and that the survivors need “something more.”

During an interview on Fox News, Chaffetz was asked about what it meant for lawmakers to take a pause from their day to reflect and honor the life of the late evangelist Billy Graham.

Chaffetz said he was “proud” to see people honoring Graham, adding that Graham impacted millions of lives.

“We need more good news, more good message, more of the good word reaching out to America,” Chaffetz said on Fox News.

“I think of those kids who went back to school today after that horrific shooting, and they need something more. They need a belief in God and Jesus Christ. I think that would help. And this is a historic moment.”

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11 comments on “Chaffetz: Florida school shooting survivors ‘need a belief in God and Jesus Christ’

  • @OP – “I think of those kids who went back to school today after that horrific shooting, and they need something more.

    Perhaps some enforced laws to clear the guns off the streets and keep them out of the hands of dangerous deluded individuals!

    They need a belief in God and Jesus Christ. I think that would help. And this is a historic moment.”

    Ah! – The expected “standard prescribed pseudo-answer to everything”, from a god-deluded know-nothing fantasist, who is totally clueless about actual practical solutions which work for the benefit of people in the real world!



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  • belief in God and Jesus Christ

    Bad theology. God and JC are the same entity, along with God the Holy Spirit, they form the Whole and Undivided Trinity (incidentally, the name of my Alma Mater), so you cannot co-join them, they are one in substance. If he wants to bang on with horseshit, he ought to at least pay us the compliment of getting it right.



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  • eejit #3
    Mar 3, 2018 at 9:04 am

    belief in God and Jesus Christ

    Bad theology. God and JC are the same entity, along with God the Holy Spirit,

    The brain-addled faith-thinker has no need for consistency, accuracy, evidence or logic! -He simply KNOWS that he is right and that asserted gapolgy is the correct answer!



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  • eejit

    God and JC are the same entity, along with God the Holy Spirit, they form the Whole and Undivided Trinity

    This is the topic that would be at the top of the list titled:

    Ideas that have wasted incalculable brain power and contributed nothing to humanity except for pain, suffering, death and grotesque levels of unethical barbaric behavior on an individual and societal level.

    Two thousand years of total fail from these people. The blind leading the blind into an abyss.



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  • contributed nothing to humanity except for pain, suffering, death and grotesque levels of unethical barbaric behavior

    I agree Laurie. Apart from the brain addling and wasted energy, it led to the division of Christianity. According to the Greeks, the Latin church smuggled the word(s) filioque (and the son) into the Nicene Creed, the Latins claim that their translation reflected the meaning of the Greek original.

    Anyhow, the division in 1054 was the cause of wars in North Africa, the Levant and the Balkans, which continued up until recently in former Yugoslavia. It certainly facilitated the Islamic capture of the former Byzantine Empire, and one result was the sacking of Constantinople (1204) by the 4th crusaders.

    I wonder if Chaffetz learned any of this in Brigham Young University – somehow I doubt it.



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  • eejit

    I wonder if Chaffetz learned any of this in Brigham Young University – somehow I doubt it.

    ~snort~

    I doubt that too! Usually after an explanation of the dubious whole trinity concept is the follow-up assurance that our tribe is the one that knows the real truth of the matter and every other group has for some reason (blunt stupidity, misguided, brainwashed) taken the wrong path at their own peril.

    And in that weird little world, (said with a vacant expression) “It’s all we really need to know.”



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  • eejit #6

    Apart from the brain addling and wasted energy, it led to the
    division of Christianity…

    …the division in 1054 was the cause of wars in North Africa, the
    Levant and the Balkans…

    Earlier schisms related to this same craziness have of of course been a characteristic of christianity since the earliest times of its establishment :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism



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  • Arianism is one of the more decent and rational sects of Christianity. It is the forerunner of Unitarianism. Newton was a covert Arianist and had to stay schtum about it. (Non-religious historians are quite clear on this based on his correspondence with like minds). He could see the nonsense of a trinity was a committee cooked up camel.

    Marcionism was another decent sect thinking the NT had cancelled any standing of the OT. How different would be the USA now.



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  • the NT had cancelled any standing of the OT

    In my long years of religious education in RC schools, we were always taught just this. Anything not renewed in the NT was redundant as moral guidance. A great deal of the fanatical moral rigour of the OT is eliminated by one sentence: Go and sin no more. Unfortunately the unreconstructed enforcer of orthodox Judaism, Saul of Tarsus, reintroduced moral absolutism into the foundling religion, from which it was never quite eliminated, and always was a matter of tension between Christians.

    Calvinism and its offshoots, which informed much of the early mass migration to America, was firmly old testament in its beliefs and attitudes. It is often said that JC founded a lovely, tolerant religion, based on human needs psychological, spiritual and material, and St Paul came along and spoiled it.



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  • I see it’s gangster “gang shooting season” again in Chicago!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45084264?ocid=socialflow_twitter
    6th. August 2018

    Police in the US city of Chicago have asked for more help to combat gun violence after more than 60 people were shot over the weekend.

    At least 10 people were killed in the city and police say most of the shootings were gang related.

    “We will not be defeated,” police chief Fred Waller told reporters on Sunday.

    “We need more help from our judicial system. We need more help from our federal partners, and we are getting it,” he added.

    Most of the shootings happened on Sunday with 30 people shot between midnight and 03:00.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40514995

    Chicago holiday weekend shootings claim 101 victims – 5 July 2017



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