Florida state senator: Only ‘thoughts and prayers’ will stop evil behind shootings

By Morgan Gstalter

A Florida state senator said the only thing that is going to stop “the evil” behind mass shootings is to send “thoughts and prayers.”

During a debate on a proposed assault weapons ban in the Florida legislature on Saturday, state Sen. Kelli Stargel (R) said she finds it offensive when people tell her that the kind words are not enough to stop mass shootings. 

“When we say ‘thoughts and prayers,’ it’s frowned upon. And I take real offense at that because thoughts and prayers are really the only thing that’s gonna stop the evil from within the individual who is taking up their arms to do this kind of a massacre.” 

It’s not the weapon that matters, Stargel said, but rather “the evil from within” that causes people to commit heinous crimes. 

“But are we going to ban fertilizer, which is what they used in the Oklahoma bombing?” Stargel asked. “Are we going to ban pressure cookers, which is what they used in the Boston massacre? Are we going to ban the multiple handguns that were used in other assaults? Are we going to ban the sawed-off shotgun as what was used in Columbine?” 

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10 COMMENTS

  1. The US of A probably has more praying god-botherers (conservative) and more thought senders (New Age), than any other country in the Western World. So how come they have more shootings than the rest of us put together?

  2. The answer, eejit, lies partly in this woman and her comments.
    She is a moron, but she and others like her get elected, and get to influence legislation.
    Then, there are the people who vote for such morons in sufficient numbers.
    In that scenario, America gets what it deserves.

  3. @OP – During a debate on a proposed assault weapons ban in the Florida legislature on Saturday, state Sen. Kelli Stargel (R) said she finds it offensive when people tell her that the kind words are not enough to stop mass shootings.

    The stupid are often offended by constructive criticism of their stupidity!

    “When we say ‘thoughts and prayers,’ it’s frowned upon.

    Yep! Zero impact delusional diversionary pseudo-action!

    And I take real offense at that

    Ah! The poor little offended fake, whose uselessness time wasting posturing has been called out!

    because thoughts and prayers are really the only thing that’s gonna stop the evil from within the individual who is taking up their arms to do this kind of a massacre.”

    Ah! The one-track self-deluding answer of the god-befuddled, who denies the availability of arms and lack of enforced regulation as a cause!

    It’s not the weapon that matters, Stargel said, but rather “the evil from within” that causes people to commit heinous crimes.

    Yep! Multi-factor co-ordinated big-picture views, are simply beyond the simplistic befuddled faith-thinker!
    “The availability of the weapon has NOTHING to do with attack with a weapon!” (allegedly) 🙂

    Wasn’t the effectiveness of prayer well tested during another faith-befuddled politician’s attempts to end a drought when Rick Perry proclaimed “Days of Prayer for Rain”!

  4. the evil from within

    The word *evil * is an adjective, and should never be used as a noun. In simpler terms, it is a descriptive word, not a thing-in-itself. Its logic is similar to colour words; there is no such thing as purple, only purple things. Eat your heart out Plato, the Forms are mystical twaddle, dreamed up in some kind of occult trance, by a right wing proto-fascist, who died in 424BC. Plus ça change

  5. What we should ban is fucking idiots from holding office.

    But, here goes a little LOGIC for the good senator. I’ll type slowly so she can keep up.

    Kelli, if by some strange twist of fate pressure cookers become the weapon of choice in killing children while they are at school, I guarantee that by the TWENTIETH iteration of the same script, you’ll be calling for the ban of pressure cooker sales.

    And, if a fertilizer bomb goes off twice a week in our schools, you will most certainly be stressing the need to ban and/or regulate the sales and distribution of fertilizers. Same thing with fucking hammers, knives, CHRIST if children were being tickled to death you’d want to ban feathers.

    So while you masturbate yourself with those “thoughts and prayers” please understand that you are the laughingstock of anyone who can think critically. Undoubtedly, you’ve surrounded yourself with people who can’t and you’ve even garnered enough of these idiots to get yourself in office. But, make no mistake about it, you are NOT the answer to any problem that our citizenry faces.

  6. Alan4discussion #3

    Wasn’t the effectiveness of prayer well tested during another
    faith-befuddled politician’s attempts to end a drought when Rick Perry
    proclaimed “Days of Prayer for Rain”!

    Actually, the efficacy of prayer has been confirmed by an even greater ‘authority’ on the subject :

    “You pray for the hungry. Then you feed them. That’s how prayer works.”………….Pope Francis.

  7. Meanwhile: as Trump chickens out of restricting gun sales to 18 year olds, the Japanese seem to have a different view on the the levels of responsibility which are to be entrusted to teenagers!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43391498

    Children in Japan will be considered adults when they are 18 as opposed to 20, under a new proposal that is supported by the government.

    If the change is approved, 18-year-olds will be able to get married, sign contracts and take out loans without the consent of their parents.

    But teenagers will still be banned from smoking, drinking alcohol and gambling until they are 20.

    If parliament votes in favour of the bill it will take effect in 2022.

    It would be the first change to the law that defines adulthood since it was set in 1876.

    Under the existing law, people under 20 can only get married with the consent of their parents. Men can do so at 18 and women at 16.

    But this amendment will raise the age that women can get married so that all 18-year-olds will be able to do so without parental consent.

    The government decided to make the age of marriage the same for both sexes because there was no justifiable reason for the difference, according to Japan’s Kyodo news service.

    Separately, the bill will allow 18 and 19-year-olds to sign contracts for mobile phones and credit cards.

    This has led to fears that some businesses may use sales tactics that target and exploit vulnerable young people.

    The bill includes clauses that are designed to protect against this problem. For example, young people will be able to cancel a contract if they believe salespeople have manipulated or pressured them into signing it.

    The Education and Justice Ministries have also said they will educate teenagers about the responsibilities that would come with the change.

  8. 6

    “You pray for the hungry. Then you feed them. That’s how prayer works.”………….Pope Francis.

    Confounded variables.

  9. I think they have just had a demonstration of the difference between profit motivated applied wish-thinking, and the practicalities of critically supervised, competent, science-based, engineering!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43440501

    Florida officials were told “there were no safety concerns” about a crack in a Miami university bridge, hours before it collapsed killing six people.

    Florida International University (FIU) said a meeting on Thursday morning involved the engineering and construction companies, as well as Florida’s transport department.

    University officials say they were told that the crack “did not compromise the structural integrity” of the bridge.

    It later fell on eight vehicles.

    The 862-tonne, 174ft (53m) pedestrian bridge had been newly built the previous Saturday in just six hours. “FIU is about building bridges and student safety. This project accomplishes our mission beautifully,” the university had said in a press release.

    The following day it emerged that lead bridge engineer Denney Pate had warned of a crack in the structure in a voicemail left with the state’s department of transport two days before the disaster.

    But the employee was away on assignment, and did not hear the message until after the bridge had fallen.

    The voicemail made headlines when it was released by the transportation department – but there was no mention until Saturday of the meeting held on the morning of the collapse.

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