Questioning real-world learning at ultra-Orthodox schools

Jul 24, 2018

By Karen Matthews

At the ultra-Orthodox Jewish schools Pesach Eisen attended in Brooklyn, most of the day was spent studying religious texts with classes taught in Yiddish. One class at the end of the day was spent on secular subjects including English and math, enough to be “able to go to the food stamps office and apply.”

“Everything was super basic. … Nobody took it seriously, so even if you were a studious person you had no chance,” said the now-32-year-old Eisen, who had to take remedial classes and study intensively on his own before he succeeded in graduating from college in 2016.

Complaints that schools like Eisen’s run by New York’s strictly observant Hasidic Jews barely teach English, math, science or social studies have fueled a movement to demand stricter oversight by state and local educational authorities. Critics plan to file a lawsuit on Monday in federal court, seeking to stop the state from enforcing legislation that was intended to shield the schools, called yeshivas, from some government oversight.

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2 comments on “Questioning real-world learning at ultra-Orthodox schools

  • @OP – Complaints that schools like Eisen’s run by New York’s strictly observant Hasidic Jews barely teach English, math, science or social studies have fueled a movement to demand stricter oversight by state and local educational authorities.

    I await the screams of “anti Semitism” from the educationally illiterate indoctrinators!



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  • @#1 I await the screams of “anti Semitism” from the educationally illiterate indoctrinators!

    However ;- As the apartheid state of Israel pronounces its self “a Jewish State”, I don’t have to wait for the screaming of anti-Semitism from UK bigots, who have been given and inch they were not entitled to, and have now come back to demand a mile!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44957906

    The UK’s three main Jewish newspapers have published the same front page, warning that a Jeremy Corbyn-led government would pose an “existential threat to Jewish life”.

    The Jewish Chronicle,Jewish News and Jewish Telegraph move comes amid anger over Labour’s anti-Semitism code.

    They say the party must sign up to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of anti-Semitism.

    That “evil” Labour Party has not included these demanded examples in its definition of “anti-Semitism|”!

    The code does reproduce the IHRA’s “working definition” of anti-Semitism and lists behaviours likely to be regarded as anti-Semitic – but critics point out that it leaves out four examples provided by the IHRA definition:

    Accusing Jewish people of being more loyal to Israel
    than their home country

    Claiming that Israel's existence as a state is a racist endeavour

    Requiring higher standards of behaviour from Israel
    than other nations

    Comparing contemporary Israeli policies to those of the Nazis

    But Labour has insisted that while the examples are not reproduced word for word, they are covered elsewhere in the new code.

    So the clueless Corbynites, are discovering that pandering to religious fundamentalists, just encourages them to come back and demand greater theocracy, muzzling critics, recognition of the superior land rights of “God’s chosen people who “repossess it from “heretics”, and the re-writing of embarrassing areas of history!

    Who would have thunk that Zionists would engage in such behaviours with airs of superiority, or scream anti-Semitism at critics?! 🙂

    I would suggest, that foreign nationals attacking homeland critics using example 2, would be giving evidence of their own guilt in respect of example 1!

    Of course, it is well known that screaming “anti-Semitism”, IS the standard evasive tactic, to avoid recognising genuine questions about real issues which challenge the preconceptions of Zionist biblical literalists!

    Criticising the reprehensible activities of Israel and the Israeli governments past and present, is a political activity, or a historical record, which has NOTHING to do with racist bigotry, although Zionists do frequently project THEIR OWN racist bigotry onto critics!

    Labour Jewish MP Hodge, has decide to play the victimised martyr, seeking legal advice, after Labour opened an investigation into allegations of “abusive conduct in Parliament” made against her over her verbal abuse of Jeremy Corbyn on this issue!



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