Philadelphia Archbishop: ‘Joy and wholeness’ requires denying existence of LGBTQ Catholics

Oct 15, 2018

By Zack Ford

Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput has rejected the possibility that LGBTQ Catholics exist. The Catholic Church’s position on sexuality “is the only real path to joy and wholeness,” he insisted, even if young people see it as a barrier to connecting with the Church.

Chaput made the comments earlier this month as part of the Church’s Synod 2018 on Young People, The Faith and Vocational Discernment, a global assembly of bishops occurring all month. It was among the objections he voiced regarding how the synod was catering to the perspectives of young people (ages 18-29), insisting that if they feel disconnected from the Church, then the Church must redouble its efforts, rather than change to accommodate them.

A presentation at the pre-synodal meeting earlier this year included a reference to “LGBT youth” who wish to feel more closeness with the Church, including support from it. Though that language appears to have been removed from the subsequent documents, Chaput still objected that it had ever been used at all.

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8 comments on “Philadelphia Archbishop: ‘Joy and wholeness’ requires denying existence of LGBTQ Catholics

  • @OP – Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput
    has rejected the possibility that LGBTQ Catholics exist.

    Ah! The “no true Scotsman” of the delusional religious mind!

    The Catholic Church’s position on sexuality “is the only real path to joy and wholeness,” he insisted,

    As the belated investigations into abusive priests show! Pity about the children!

    even if young people see it as a barrier to connecting with the Church.

    Hopefully many more of them will “see it as a barrier to connecting with the Church” – or its priests!

  • There was an Archbishop said “whole”
    Is what you need for your soul,
    But as to the spelling
    There’s really no telling;
    So did he mean “whole” or “hole”?

  • @OP – A presentation at the pre-synodal meeting earlier this year included a reference to “LGBT youth” who wish to feel more closeness with the Church, including support from it.

    Ah! The struggles of fudged compartmentalisations and cognitive dissonance! – Trying to resolve the urges to recruit additional delusional members with the conflicting doctrinaire dogmatism!

    Though that language appears to have been removed from the subsequent documents, Chaput still objected that it had ever been used at all.

    I suppose hiding the evidence of possible criticism, and keeping a positive spin for the dogma, is a sign of “faith”!

    If the subject is put on the agenda, some people might even look at the biology and become “confused” about their “beliefs”!

  • There was a young parson called Bings
    Whose secret desire
    Was a boy in the Choir
    With a bottom like Jelly on springs.

    You are allowed to laugh but there is a serious side to this and other limericks, this one was written in the 1800’s. Society knew about these paedophile pricks but in general had no power to do anything about them. There is anecdotal evidence that sometimes justice was served when some offending priests turned up dead.

  • My limerick was an original! I know lots of really filthy ones about the clergy, but even on a liberal website like this, they would be a bit excessive. If you meet me in The Rising Sun and buy me a few pints I’ll tell you some.

  • Here here! Or is it Hear, hear?

    Anyway I thoroughly agree with the Archpushup, and for all the wrong reasons. The more he puts people off his organisation, the better. Some might even give up on religion(s) entirely, and find a more healthy way of interpreting the world around them.

  • Meanwhile as Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chapu directs abuse at the LGBTQ community who for some reason cling to Catholicism, I see that other form of Catholic abuse is recognised in Pennsylvania !

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45909270

    The US Department of Justice is investigating the Roman Catholic Church in the state of Pennsylvania over alleged child sex abuse, US media say.

    It follows a state grand jury report that found at least 1,000 children had been abused by over 300 “predator priests” in six dioceses over 70 years.

    The August report came after an 18-month-long investigation into the dioceses in Pennsylvania.

    The US Attorney in Philadelphia reportedly has begun issuing subpoenas.

    Federal prosecutors are now investigating whether priests or other clergymen committed federal crimes, the Associated Press reports, citing two people familiar with the inquiry.

    US Attorney William McSwain has requested documents from secret archives, confidential files and historical records, including finances, insurance coverage and clergy assignments, according to the AP.

  • I hope the kind people here are gearing up to welcome refugees from the sinking ship that is the RCC, before they’re scooped up by some other flavour of the same delusion (only better, of course, not having been caught abusing kids, or anyone else, or not as many, or not as recently anyway).

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