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Hundreds of sex abuse allegations found in fundamental Baptist churches across U.S.

Dec 10, 2018

By Sarah Smith

Joy Evans Ryder was 15 years old when she says her church youth director pinned her to his office floor and raped her.

“It’s OK. It’s OK,” he told her. “You don’t have to be afraid of anything.”

He straddled her with his knees, and she looked off into the corner, crying and thinking, “This isn’t how my mom said it was supposed to be.”

The youth director, Dave Hyles, was the son of the charismatic pastor of First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana, considered at the time the flagship for thousands of loosely affiliated independent fundamental Baptist churches and universities.

At least three other teen girls would accuse Hyles of sexual misconduct, but he never faced charges or even sat for a police interview related to the accusations. When he got in trouble, Hyles was able to simply move on, from one church assignment to the next.

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12 comments on “Hundreds of sex abuse allegations found in fundamental Baptist churches across U.S.

  • An’ then—you know what I’d do? I’d take one of them girls out in the grass, an’ I’d lay with her. Done it ever’ time.Then I’d feel bad, an’ I’d pray an’ pray, but it didn’t do no good. Come the next time, them an’ me was full of the sperit, I’d do it again. I figgered there just wasn’t no hope for me, an’ I was a damned ol’ hypocrite. But I didn’t mean to be. “I got to thinkin’ like this—’Here’s me preachin’ grace. An’ here’s them people gettin’ grace so hard they’re jumpin’ an’ shoutin’. Now they say layin’ up with a girl comes from the devil.But the more grace a girl got in her, the quicker she wants to go out in the grass.’An’ I got to thinkin’ how in hell, s’cuse me, how can the devil get in when a girl is so full of the Holy Sperit that it’s spoutin’ out of her nose an’ ears. You’d think that’d be one time when the devil didn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell. But there it was. 

    Steinbeck understood it all – it’s in every religion, cult, political cult, ideological movement.  The holier they are, the worse they are.


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  • eejit says:

    Steinbeck understood it all – it’s in every religion, cult, political cult, ideological movement.  The holier they are, the worse they are.

    Perhaps there is a biological connection between sexual repression and “spirituality”

    Could it be that the reason for religious sexual repression and the associated perversion of priests, comes from seeing a relaxed comfortable approach sexual activity as competing with religion for triggering pleasure sensations for religious activities? , and thereby removing a dependence on  rigid religious theocratic control of sex and families!

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322539.php
    Here, we take a look at some of these effects, as shown by the latest research.
    And, research in the field of “neurotheology” — or the neuroscience of theological belief — has made some surprising discoveries that are bound to change how we think about spirituality.
    For instance, some scientists suggest that religious experience activates the same brain circuits as sex and drugs.
    Other research has suggested that damage to a certain brain region can make you feel as though someone’s in the room when nobody’s there. Such findings have intriguing implications for how religion affects health, and vice-versa.
    These pleasure and reward-processing brain areas are also active when we engage in sexual activities, listen to music, gamble, and take drugs. The participants also reported feelings of peace and physical warmth.
    These findings echo those of older studies, which found that engaging in spiritual practices raises levels of serotonin, which is the “happiness” neurotransmitter, and endorphins.


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  • So, Alan, religions teach sex is Evil because it’s a competitor for Market Share?

    But it would appear that when it comes down to it, religion can’t quite deliver the goods (serotonin etc), and acts instead as a “gateway drug”, leaving the primed-up Believers with even stronger urges to engage in The Real Thing.  And without a socially acceptable framework, they go for underhand/illicit/deceptive and decidedly hypocritical ways to get it.

    Did I paraphrase you ok, or did I miss something.  Maybe I’m just projecting my own view.


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  • OHooligan says:

    So, Alan, religions teach sex is Evil because it’s a competitor for Market Share?

    I think there is a pecking order thing involved.

    If we look at groups of apes, we see Alpha males dominating and suppressing the sexuality of competitors, but their influence can only extend so far with groups up to a certain size.

    If we look at the war-lord feudal cultures from history we see “celibate” priests supporting kings and lords, and certifying “legitimate” offspring to inherit lands, property, kingships and lordships  but without the right to their own families to usurp the alpha line of inheritance.

    In Muslim countries we see inheritance laws giving priority of inheritance of property to Muslims over members of other religions.

    In China we saw Eunuchs put in place as regional rulers and administrators.

    It is the one of the fundamentals of propagation of reproducing religious memes being integrated with the rule and inheritance of communities by tyrants and dictators, who need support to extend their powers, but  not in a way that uses military commanders who could usurp their positions.

    It is about religious access to power and to the next generation of children, regardless of secular or religious overt or covert abuses of the population.

     


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  • It’s all of that and also, men using positions of power to access individuals they want to have sex with. I used to think it was only young women but now we know it’s boys and young men as well. We’ve always known about the predatory sexual behavior of the mormon leaders, now we know about the crimes of the RCC and now it won’t surprise me to learn about the same patterns of behavior taking place in the Protestant churches. A couple of differences that might or might not make a difference – Protestant pastors are not viewed as having magical powers like RCC priests do, and the pastors are mostly conventionally married family men. This didn’t stop one of our Methodist pastors from having an affair with a female congregant when I was a tween. He was transferred to a different church (as one does) with a cloud of scandal surrounding him.

    For all of these men, to be surrounded with the objects of their desire who have been indoctrinated with respect (fear) of authority and fear of burning in hell for breaking the rules, they must feel like the fox in the chicken coop.  Their victims have been denied any agency in their own choices in life, especially their own sexual behavior, the victims of all of these predatory men just don’t have the skills to recognize when they are in this kind of trouble and to hold up their hand and say STOP this. I don’t want you to do that! Not only can they not walk away gracefully, they are conflicted between respect for authority and the very real probability that they will be blamed for the entire sordid incident by the cleric, the congregation and their own family as well. Maybe it’s the easier road to just go along with the predator and hope he loses interest soon or at least gets what he wants and stays silent about the rape. Children and teens have no way to rationally assess these consequences and outcomes.

     

    The perpetrator in the article above is the son of the Baptist pastor. He must have had “on the job training” in the art of coercion of credulous victims.

     

    Here’s the song that explains the whole deal:

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-3p6QsCbr0

     


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  • Alan

     

    I have posted this film before. Worth watching the lot but from 34:40 to 43:00 shows the extent of society to be controlled. Teaching females to not flirt or attract the attention of challengers to the alpha male seems a sensible way to go. His reign and his life should be safer and longer. This responsibility of control is passed onto the females in muslim societies at least. I always saw the females in my extended family as the controllers of such behaviour and not really the males who were just the enforcer of punishment to whoever. It seems like a vicious circle trying to find protection for all. Predators slip in and out of a system that is clearly an evolutionary process.



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  • Hundreds of sex abuse allegations found in fundamental Baptist churches across U.S.

    Meanwhile, in that other bastion of abusive priests and glacial rates of investigation, two prime offenders have had token measures taken against them! They have been dropped from a Vatican committee!!!

    Pell however retains his main job as Vatican Treasurer!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46539341
    Two cardinals facing allegations linked to sexual abuse have been removed from Pope Francis’s inner circle, the Vatican said.
    Australia’s George Pell and Chile’s Francisco Javier Errazuriz will no longer sit on the Council of Cardinals, set up by the pope as an international advice body.

    The pair were absent from the last meeting of the group in September.

    A spokesperson said the Pope wrote to them both in October to thank them.

    Cardinal Pell, who remains the Vatican treasurer, faces trial on sexual abuse charges in Australia – accusations the cardinal strenuously denies.

    His Chilean colleague, Francisco Javier Errazuriz, faces accusations that he covered up alleged child abuse while serving as Archbishop of Santiago, claims he also denies.

    The group, known as C9, has no plan to immediately fill its three empty seats, Mr Burke reportedly said.


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  • Olgun

     

    This responsibility of control is passed onto the females in muslim societies at least. I always saw the females in my extended family as the controllers of such behaviour and not really the males who were just the enforcer of punishment to whoever.

    I’ll second that. It’s important to point out that females in those cultures are complicit in their own oppression. The females are on the front lines and when this level of control fails then the men get involved and that’s really a dire situation. Beatings and honor killing can happen.


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