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Tennessee Lawmaker: No ‘Solid Evidence’ Earth Is 500 Million Years Old

Feb 19, 2020

By Michael Stone

Stupid For Jesus: A Tennessee lawmaker refuses to support a resolution about the Cumberland Plateau because he doesn’t believe the Earth is 500 million years old.

Tennessee State Rep. Chris Todd argued against a resolution in support of the Cumberland Plateau because the resolution cites scientific research showing the plateau’s sandstone and shale are 500 million years old.

Commenting on the resolution,  Rep. Todd said he rejected the science, declaring:

(The resolution is) claiming that these sandstone and shale areas date back 500 million years and I take issue with that because I don’t believe we have any solid evidence that the Earth is that old so I don’t want anything to do with with a statement like that.

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19 comments on “Tennessee Lawmaker: No ‘Solid Evidence’ Earth Is 500 Million Years Old

  • I find his lack of faith disturbing.

    Then again, at a long geological time scale the earth is a fluid ball. So you could argue that the evidence for an old earth is not solid but fluid, while the evidence only solidifies over very short geological time frames. Of course you’d have to have faith in it to somehow make it work ;-).


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  • @OP : I take issue with that because I don’t believe we have any solid evidence that the Earth is that old

    Another Republican with “beliefs”,  who has gone into politics because he lacks the education needed to do a proper productive job!


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  • This is amazing.  One wonders who these people are. A couple minutes of research produced this information. Chris Todd claims to have a bachelors of science degree in biology from Union University.

    Union University is a private evangelical Christian university in Jackson, Tennessee, with additional campuses in Germantown and Hendersonville. The university is affiliated with the Tennessee Baptist Convention and relates to the Southern Baptist Convention.  In 1948 the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools granted Union University accreditation.  The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) is one of the six regional accreditation organizations recognized by the United States Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation. This agency accredits over 13,000 public and private educational institutions ranging from preschool to college level in the Southern United States. Its headquarters are in North Druid Hills, Georgia, near Decatur and in the Atlanta metropolitan area.  

    His professional experience is:  Owner, Envirogreen Incorporated, present; Former Biologist and Environmental Specialist, Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation. Services offered are:  Consulting, Drainage Correction & Laser Grading, Erosion Prevention/Slope Protection, Floating Silt Curtains, Hydroseeding, Silt Fencing/Sediment Control.  

    In the legislature he is Vice Chair, Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee, Member, State Government Committee, Member, Subcommittee on Agriculture and Natural Resources, Member, Subcommittee on Corrections.

    His community activities include:  Member, International Erosion Control Association
    Member; Madison County Environmental Appeals Board; State Leadership Chair, Environmental Advisory Council Chair; National Federation of Independent Business
    Member, National Rifle Association (NRA); Member, Teach for America (TFA)
    Legislative Representative; Tennessee Advisory Council on State Procurement; Deacon/Member, West Jackson Baptist Church.

     
    How can anyone with a bachelor’s degree in biology not acknowledge basic facts of science that any child should know?  What kind of accrediting agency would give credentials to a university that confers science degrees on such a student?  It’s enough to make your head spin.  If this is my country, I may consider relocation.


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  • One of the things I find most egregious about religion is its arrogance. On one side of the argument we have 100 million scientists with degrees from proper universities who agree almost completely on the major facts like evolution, age of the earth, age of the universe and on the other side there’s a book of bronze age myths and folklore written by ignorant goat fuckers and that supposedly trumps all the modern clever people’s knowledge.


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  • Accreditations are never revoked I guess. Think of all the paperwork! Think Of The Children™ whose daddies would have to do that paperwork and then come home late every night and so on, and so on……..


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  • Michael 100 says:

    Services offered are:  Consulting, Drainage Correction & Laser Grading, Erosion Prevention/Slope Protection, Floating Silt Curtains, Hydroseeding, Silt Fencing/Sediment Control.

    Speaking as someone with actual qualifications in environmental sciences., I would class all those activities as very basic level  “Landscape Gardening”, NOT biology!

    How can anyone with a bachelor’s degree in biology not acknowledge basic facts of science that any child should know?

    It looks like he was awarded a “biology degree” for completing a gardening course – with a bit earth-moving and construction work thrown in!

     


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  • I looked at Union University’s website. It’s so badly written I couldn’t really decipher the details of the biology course they offer but one indication seemed to say it only involved a total of 32 hours study. The entire website makes little attempt to disguise the fact that this is really a seminary masquerading as a university. It’s main purpose is religious indoctrination and then you get a degree certificate thrown in for a few hours of gardening tuition. They only offer 15 courses and with classes only 1 night a week or you can do it online. It’s a disgrace that a sham like this can operate on public funds and pretend to be a genuine seat of learning.


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  • @Akrid Sandwich -“It’s a disgrace that a sham like this can operate on public funds and pretend to be a genuine seat of learning”.

    The answer to your observation is Betsy DeVos, the billionaire Christian crusader installed by Donald Trump as Secretary of Education.  She has made sure public funding is going to religious institutions/schools.  Separation of Church and State has been under constant attack under her tutelage.  Hopefully not for much longer.  See the link for the bio.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos

  • As much as I’d like to pin this on DeVos, she is only the most recent manifestation of the push for public funds for parochial education. And frankly, that isn’t even her worst attribute for the job she paid-to-play.


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  • If I were Putin, this is where his investment will most bring the US to its knees. The educational impoverishment of the American mind.

    Who says eugenics doesn’t work? For yourself or against your competitor.

    (But please, Richard, not on Twitter.)


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  • By many measures we’ve never had better education than we do now.

     

    But as someone who works in education this is difficult to believe, good luck convincing anyone on the outside looking in! 🙂  Everybody thinks they know what’s wrong with education.  But, pick a more difficult subject than obviously fraudulent universities and it’s actually not so easy.

     


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  • Feb 21, 2020 at 12:12 pm  – 14
    Sean_W says:

    By many measures we’ve never had better education than we do now.

    I think a look at Page 12 figure 2 on this link to OECD data shows the effects of Tory neglect or  political innovative meddling in education in England and the USA.

    http://www.oecd.org/education/skills-beyond-school/building-skills-for-all-review-of-england.pdf

    PAGE 12 Figure 2.Too many teenagers in England have low basic skills

    Percentage of 16-19 year-olds with low literacy and numeracy (below level 2)

     


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  • A good source of information for US readers regarding education is the National Assessment of Educational Progress also known as “The Nation’s Report Card”.  A quick visit to their website and its simple to use data tools will reveal a few things I think most people would be surprised to learn.  First, reading and math abilities have for the most part been stable or steadily improving for decades, and second, non-whites have improved significantly since the assessments began.

     

     

     

     

     


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  •  First, reading and math abilities have for the most part been stable or steadily improving for decades…

    I do not see that trend continuing under DeVos, Sean, and a cursory look at the NAEP site seems to reinforce my concern.


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  • It’s fine to be concerned about DeVos.  Her hatred of public education is dangerous.

    I just like to challenge the notion that the sky is falling over education.  In my opinion, it’s possible that both sides suffer from the same limited view which leads them to see public education as a failure, although obviously for different reasons.  The reality is that they’re largely wrong in their sweeping condemnations and histrionic hand-wringing.

    For example, they will say that certain exams show people aren’t learning as much as they used to. But they fail to mention that many people are taking those exams as the first person ever in their family to do so.  That is a significant change, and it is repeated across many metrics used to judge education.  The lack of preparation observed in college students?  Wait, who’s going to college?

     

     


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