Jason B.

  • Reckless Monkey #116,

    >I don’t have atheistic presumptions.

    We all have presuppositions. You live as if there were no God or any divinity, nor do you live your life as though you were “part of a computer s […]

  • Michael #123,

    >I think that statement is wrong right out of the gate.  As an atheist, I do not presume to judge the god(s) of the bible anymore than I presume to judge the gods of Egypt, Greece, Rome, China, […]

  • Cairsley #122,

    I was merely pointing out that I had not yet provided the rational basis but had only claimed that there is one. What I have been doing is providing logical evidence that humans who make moral […]

  • Vicki #120,

    >I’m done here. I know that many, both theists and atheists, enjoy philosophy. It has never been my cup of tea.

    I’ve enjoyed our friendly banter. I believe I am a better person at the end of t […]

  • ShadowMind #119,

    I am not asking if a particular standard that is decided upon by a particular society is the highest standard. I am asking about the standard that says that each society gets to decide for […]

  • Vicki #113,

    >The natural world does not behave randomly.

    By “random,” I do not mean “without cause.” Everything has a cause. If we know what the cause is, then we can predict the result when we see the cause […]

  • Reckless Monkey,

    Let me propose something that might be more helpful than us arguing over our understanding of biblical slavery.

    The reality is that if I judge atheism based upon theistic presuppositions, […]

  • Vicky #104,

    >That seems to me like a flawed if/then reasoning. Your conclusion appears to give credit for meaning–ultimately morality–to ‘a theistic worldview.’ Why?

    My point is that a theistic worldvi […]

  • Jimmy #100,

    Is your answer to my question, “No, I do not believe our two worldviews can coexist”? That seems to be what you are saying, but I do not want to assume.

    If one of our views must be subjugated by […]

  • Alan #99,

    Is “the predominant view from within each social group” the highest standard that can be used to evaluate moral judgements?

  • WalSallBoy #98,

    >If I understand your thinking correctly, you are saying our moral judgements are ultimately attributed to a higher intelligence that created us – an “absolute person” or “god” […]

  • ShadowMind #96,

    >You keep saying that “non-absolute” morals (ie. all of them) must be weighed against a (theoretical) absolute moral standard. However, down here in the real world, moral standards are wei […]

  • Reckless Monkey #91,

    >First why would it have to be an absolute person, why not an absolute grapefruit that is sentient and thus can (being the perfect grapefruit) make absolute moral judgements. Would it not […]

  • Alan #90,

    In your view, is “whatever works to preserve or promote that culture” the highest standard that can be used to evaluate moral judgements?

  • Jimmy #89,

    I agree that we have to agree to disagree, which leads me to another question that I have been pondering recently.

    Our two worldviews seem to be incompatible. I want to be left alone, and you want […]

  • Alan #83,

    >The moral decisions come from evaluating and deciding on the effects on the interests of those involved, after what reliable predictions that can be made, are made.

    You are appealing to a moral […]

  • Reckless Monkey 82,

    I really appreciate your honest discourse.

    Concerning the burden of proof, I think it is quite difficult in general to prove logically that something might exist. You refer to Zeus, […]

  • Jimmy 81,

    Let me first reiterate that I appreciate the discussion. We have some pretty serious disagreements, but I am glad that we can have a civil discourse.

    >A pretty callous sentiment, I think, if taken […]

  • Marco #80,

    For as long as you are only attempting to make the perfect cup of coffee for yourself, you are not attempting to make an actually perfect cup of coffee. What you are doing is attempting to make a cup […]

  • Marco #74,

    Your syllogism is valid. I completely agree with it. If someone attempts to make a perfect cup of coffee, he is by definition presupposing that an eternal, transcendent standard of a perfect cup of […]

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