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  • By Jon Dean

    An ISIS propaganda rag has revealed the top six reasons why they despise the rest of the free world.

    In an article entitled ‘Why We Hate you and Want to Fight You’, the 15th edition of the […]

    • The fundamental “reason” is clearly stated at the end: they hate us because we’re not like them.
      What a surprise.

    • They hate and attack disbelievers, atheists and liberals, because they are disbelievers, atheists and liberals.

      Clearly such delusional hatred needs to be rooted out, wherever it can affect civilised cultures.

      Where they gather in armed masses away from other people, extermination would seem to cause the least damage to innocents whose brains are unaffected by these dangerous mental delusions.

      However, such terrorists often work by infiltration, so targeting must not be indiscriminate, or including innocents in “collateral damage”!
      Neither can we tolerate the reckless media presenting terrorists as heroes or celebrities.
      Some restraining of clandestine state organised subversion and funding of terrorism in other countries, would also make for a more peaceful world.
      Modern weapons do not grow on trees!!!

    • “The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.”

      The fact is if none of the above putative transgressions ever took place ISIS ( or it’s analog ) would still be a bunch of delusional wackaloons. If the West did not exist these people would still be impelled to hate all due to their religion.

      Out of their own mouths but I am sure the apologetics, any reason but the one they have just stated, will be given in defense of this nonsense.

    • I heard Muslims say this many times “There is no compulsion in Islam”. They, at least, believed the way to get new converts was to persuade them. ISIS thinks the way grow is not to persuade converts, but to kill anyone not in 100% agreement already. Think about that for a second how illogical it is.

      This illustrates the big problem. Religious people are 100% certain they are 100% right. They don’t need any evidence. This means they refuse to get along with anyone else.

    • Roedy #4
      Aug 17, 2016 at 2:28 am

      I heard Muslims say this many times “There is no compulsion in Islam”. They, at least, believed the way to get new converts was to persuade them.

      ISIS and its associates “persuade” people”! “Covert or we kill you – just like the people we have publicly beheaded!”

      ISIS thinks the way grow is not to persuade converts, but to kill anyone not in 100% agreement already.

      We should remember that the killing also applies to other Muslim denominations and cults who have a slightly different view.

      This illustrates the big problem. Religious people are 100% certain they are 100% right. They don’t need any evidence. This means they refuse to get along with anyone else.

      Unless they are in a minority and are greatly out numbered and overpoweringly out classed, – then the apologists and deniers come out full of “peace”, “No True Scotsman” claims, and persecution complexes!

    • I heard Muslims say this many times “There is no compulsion in Islam”. They, at least, believed the way to get new converts was to persuade them.

      I believe there is a verse that says this, but there are many more describing the torture that awaits those that don’t for an eternity. My favorite ( well the most remarkable) was the description of burning in fire and being so thirsty that that you cannot help drinking boiling water like a camel. I don’t know about you but presented this this stark choice (if I believed it) I would suggest there is a little threat to more than just your life in there so there most certainly is compulsion in Islam or if there is not then the freedom granted you is very short term and with an awfully big threat hanging over your head for disbelief.

    • They love death more than we love life. Us human unbelievers in all man-made theocratic charades do not believe that this life is a test, riddled with temptations to distract us from our one true purpose, to be both in praise of, and in fear of Allah, God, Thor or Wotan. Which are all equal glimpses of a common delusion.

    • Roedy #4

      The verse you are referring to is S. II 256-257

      Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error; whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and noweth all things.

      God is the Protector of those who have faith: From the depths of darkness he will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire to dwell therein forever.

      This is just my own personal interpretation, but between these two verses and my observations on the usage of the phrase There’s no compulsion in religion in common conversation, I believe that this refers to Muslims only. I’ve heard Muslims say it to each other when one is trying to guilt the other over a perceived lack of pious display. This happens more often than we might think. There’s a lot of pressure put on the young people to observe ramadan to the letter and to resist drinking alcohol etc. The “sinner” can shut the other up by reciting this verse. It’s the equivalent of Mathew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

      I pointed out this verse in the Koran to my nephews who were being bullied into doing ramadan when they absolutely didn’t want to fast. They have thrown this verse right back in the bullies faces and it worked. It’s an important verse from the Koran and the bullies are aware of how powerful that is. To argue against the Koran is a terrible sin. Maybe worse than screwing up on your fasting.

      I honestly don’t think that this verse from the Koran was meant to include any infidels. As you see in the next lines it is perfectly happy to consign us infidels straight to hell for an eternity of fire.

      Apologists throw this phrase no compulsion in religion around as a tactic to show Islam as a model of tolerance. Now whether or not they are being dishonest or just ignorant is unknown to me. Most of the time when I hear Western non-muslims parroting this verse I’m very sure they are not aware of my distinction explained above. But if I’m right about this, it’s an important distinction to make. I think this is the number one verse that is misinterpreted and parroted loudly to show Islam in an undeserved positive light.

    • Guess what: “They hate us for our freedom!”. Gotta hand it to Georgie…