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  • Dan Dredger wrote a new post, St. Mother Teresa and the Miracles Game 2 years, 10 months ago

    By Joe Nickell

    With the requisite two “miracles” approved, Mother Teresa was canonized on Sunday, September 4, 2016. But is she Mother Teresa of Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) transformed into a saint—that is, a […]

    • @OP – Her work—ostensibly to benefit the poor—won her the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979.

      Perhaps there should be an inquiry into what EVIDENCE was presented to the Nobel committee in support of this award, and if any of the the judges should have declared personal vested interests as “Catholic faithful”?

      It is difficult to see how a demonic promoter of suffering and the withholding of relief in the forms of food and pain killers, can be presented in all seriousness as a model beneficiary to humankind!

      It would appear that only gross dishonesty, corruption, or delusional profound faith-thinking “liars for Jesus”, could reach such a conclusion, when considering what actually went on in establishments under her control!

    • bonnie2 #2
      Sep 7, 2016 at 7:09 am

      The curtain is pulled, we can see the Wizard, the halo has slipped.

      There is a theory that with a slight adjustment of focus and change of viewing angle, the alleged “halo”, becomes recognisable as an overlapping of the horns above the head! 🙂

    • the only halos worth revering

    • Why don’t I have a source name to click for the rest of the article? The bit shown here leaves out all the juicy bits that, judging by their comments, others seem to have accessed.

    • eejit – see Bonnie’s link in response #2 above.

    • BTW,
      Hilarious!!!! I mean, we see a charity that wont allow an atheist to do a good deed coupled with a walking horror story canonized into sainthood. Hoo-ray religion. You are consistently inconsistent. Severe idiocy rules the day.

    • One can legitimately disagree with how Mother Teresa ran her work in India and her opinions on some issues but Hitchens was wrong to condemn her for believing that suffering could be a gift of God. All of us are going to experience pain of one sort or another and suffer. It’s the response that makes the difference. If dealing with the suffering brings one closer to God or spurs one on to relieve the suffering of others, that is a good thing. But, wallowing in suffering for its own sake is simply silly. And for reasons of disclosure, let me state that I am an evangelical Christian who is not a member of the RCC.

    • . But is she Mother Teresa of Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) transformed into a saint—that is, a holy person imbued by God with miraculous powers—or is she only a pretend saint, created by popular demand?

      Huh?!? All saints are pretend saints!!

      Continue reading by clicking the name of the source below.

      I’m not seeing the usual source click on.

    • Mother Teresa was the biggest example of somebody who does “good” not good. The problem is how the Church enables her message and makes her a saint. Pope Francis and his cronies are passive aggressive in how they ignore the truth. A religion needs to be condemned more for the evil it opens the door to than what it does or has done.

      A comment says, “If dealing with the suffering brings one closer to God or spurs one on to relieve the suffering of others, that is a good thing.” You don’t need to believe in God to use your suffering to motivate you to reach out and help other sufferers. In fact seeing suffering as random and a fact of life should make you hate it more than one who thinks its part of God’s alleged plot to bring good out of it. To say you do need to believe is just insulting. And how could suffering be good if it makes you close to a God who makes you suffer? Believers in God in some way do wallow in suffering and water down how terrible i t is for others. They cannot admit that a God who hurts people or WORSE who lets them be hurt (letting hurt happen is worse than hurting for at least when you hurt you know how much hurt you expect to happen) is unworthy of worship.

      I have realised from a comment above that she had no right to take that Nobel Prize. She was not a true humanitarian. She could not even be trusted with money for she put faith before people and used suffering to invite people to her understanding of faith. Inviting people to a vague sense of faith is one thing but a specific faith is a different matter.

    • The RCC claims on “suffering” are pathetic.

      As the story goes:

      Once upon a time there was a fairytale garden made by a god, who put a couple of characters in it.

      They were called Adam and Eve! They were very naughty to ate an apple from a tree which they had been told not to touch. – Having been put up to it by a talking snake!

      Of course evolution, cosmology and geology clearly identify this story as a fantasy folk-tale

      However, the story continues:-

      Because of the “original sin” of this naughtiness, thousands of years later, some Jewish preacher, like thousands of others in the Roman empire, had to die by crucifixion to atone for this imaginary fairytale “sin” in the imaginary garden which never existed!

      Therefore:- Two more thousands of years later, lots of sick and starving people have to be gathered from the streets, to suffer pain and death in the clutches of Teresa, because her cult worships suffering and poverty, and demands that others share in the Hell-on-Earth, suffering similar to those crucified by Romans.

      So according to Teresa, it will by abusing their bodies, help save their imaginary “souls”, earn Teresa Brownie points from her god-delusion, and give her an imagined glorious afterlife in a utopian “heaven”!

      Then the Vatican now adds invented new “Magic miracle cure” saintly stories, – which like Teresa, omit references to medical treatments, expert advice, or inconvenient witness testimony!

    • Evil do-gooders. They abound. The world is teeming with them. And….. somehow there is almost a universal foundation of religion driving them.

      Dave Graf above sees no issue with preying on the poorest of the poor (who have no CHOICE but to be “administered to by whoever is available) while funding is available to both relive their suffering AND their poverty. As long as the torture is done in the name of some deity, it is “productive torture” and “good” for the “souls” of the suffering.

      This is why even the most benign of religions and the most benign of religious folks must be fundamentally distrusted in the care of people and the decision making processes in our society. She kept them sick and poor on purpose. She let them die in agony; most of them didn’t even believe the same nonsense as her. She had funding to create something transformative and beneficial to humankind. but because righteous suffering was HER paradigm, she made others suffer and starve. She’s a pig.

    • Neodarwinian #11
      Sep 7, 2016 at 8:12 pm

      Huh?!? All saints are pretend saints!!

      And judging by the preserved “sacred relics” of their bones in numerous pilgrimage locations, , many of them were also centipedes!

    • I heard that MT, while speaking outdoors in Winnipeg, was offered a rain jacket by her hosts. She refused, saying something about “the poor” lacking such protection. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t she just another pious fraud, ostentatious in her “compassion,” who built a reputation on encouraging suffering?

    • @Alan4discussion#16
      “sacred relics”

      Yep.

      One of the most popular relics was a “splinter from the true cross of Christ”.

      Don’t know where I read a terrific comment about this relic, never mind the source.
      Most likely something like an “urban (but perhaps surprisingly medieval?) myth”.

      If I have it vaguely right, it must be post-1588.

      “All of the wooden splinter relics claimed to be from the “true cross of Christ” put together would suffice to build the Spanish Armada!”
      (I’m tempted to add “several times over”.)

    • Pope John Paul II (1920–2005) heard them and lowered the requirement
      from three verified miracles to two (one for beatification, another
      for canonization)

      Pope John Paul II (1920–2005) heard them and lowered the requirement from three verified loads of baloney to two (one for beatification, another for canonization)

      Of course! Three loads of baloney are too much for whoever.

      And, of course, the Roman Catholic Church has the freedom to give her honorific titles to whoever she likes, and if the RCC has given the title of St. to the great impostor Giuseppe Forgione (alias St. Pio) why she can’t give the same title to that little nun? Has Teresa of Kolkata been less able than Giuseppe Forgione in promoting the Catholic business?

      The ultimate question is: why some atheists are losing their time in criticizing the acknowledgement of the officil score of baloney to the Church’s businesspersons?

      Maybe for trying to fight the coverage of such silly events from the mainstream media that treat them as a serious issue.

    • Grumpy cat,
      If “jesus” was not in a crossed position when he was crucified, and instead was simply hung on a straight pole, would all these “christians” start wearing a chain around their neck with a simple pole?
      How do we even know it was a cross?
      We don’t know where the cross is, we don’t know where the cave is, we don’t know who the authors of the bible were, and we can’t seem to find a five hundred foot ship that saved the entire worlds population.
      I would think eight people that survived the flood would remember.

    • Fiorenzo

      The ultimate question is: why some atheists are losing their time in criticizing the acknowledgement of the officil score of baloney to the Church’s businesspersons?

      The massive RCC propaganda machine needs to be rebutted. Try telling a number of people that you don’t think that M. Theresa was an ethically good person for this reason and that reason, then watch the look of astonishment come over their faces. This needs to be addressed. It’s part of the whole religion is the greatest force for goodness in this life load of crap.

      Seriously, when one of us speaks up for the ethical case for compassion and points out those who abuse the ill and dying, these statements stick in the mind of the interlocutor and they may be more skeptical of something that they previously swallowed hook, line and sinker.

      After the child rape scandals that the RCC has perpetrated, the general public may be primed to consider that this cruel nun is not as saintly as the clergy is making her out to be.

    • “…is she Mother Teresa of Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) transformed into a saint—that is, a holy person imbued by God with miraculous powers—or is she only a pretend saint, created by popular demand?”

      Oh dearie, dearie me.

    • Alf # 20.

      And, if the story went that he’d been stoned to death?

      Imagine the second coming and an electric chair being employed to make God’s point; some necklace that would be!

      Apparently, crucifixion was common place then; the Romans did it to set an example.

      I speak in these somewhat uncouth terms because I think the whole malarkey is a fabrication.

      But of course, I’ll accept evidence to the contrary.

    • Stafford Gordon #25
      Sep 9, 2016 at 12:31 pm

      And, if the story went that he’d been stoned to death?

      The RCC would still look big and prominent – like a gilded half-brick on a diamond necklace! 🙂