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  • by Richard Dawkins

    This book is the ghost-written memoir of an almost superhumanly brave and heroic young woman, captured and sold into sexual slavery by ISIS. Farida Khalaf (not her real name, for obvious […]

    • Richard, yet another book I’ll have to add to my to-read list. I can’t keep up with all these books that I want to read! Is that a good thing or a bad thing? In any case, it looks like it’s a few weeks before it will be released in the US.

      I disagree with your assertion that she should have bitten that monster’s finger off. She should have taken a rusty, blunt knife and cut his penis off. That’s what this fucker deserves. Pardon my fucking French, but that’s what this fucker fucking deserves. I don’t understand these sexually frustrated monsters who think women are there to service their penises because of what their holy book says. Oh, wait. I just answered my own question. Fucking hell… Well, of course growing up in a religion where they’re taught that beating off is evil and that once you marry you have the right to rape… this shouldn’t be surprising. Brainwashing at its finest.

      I’m glad this woman got out alive and is recovering. Her story sounds so horrific. “It’s their culture”, my ass! “This has nothing to do with Islam”, my fat Aunt Fanny!

    • BTW I’d like to recommend Saving Alex by Alex Cooper, another book about escaping religion. Hell, why not have a threadin this site for recommending and discussing such books? RDFRS Book Club, perhaps?

    • IYFNY

      I’ve mentioned a book club several times. The answer was that it was under consideration for the future

    • “Under consideration”? For what?

    • I don’t know. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes?? o_O

    • Oh, whoops, I’m sorry I misread. I was getting ready for a run when I read your message, so I read it quickly. I somehow missed the word “club” in your post, and I wasn’t sure what you meant by “suggesting a book…” and that it was “under consideration”. Brain fart.

    • 🙂

    • In the article above, Richard says:

      What a wonderfully brave young woman, what a shining example to all of us spoiled brats fretting about our first world problems.

      Link to an article from the website Quillette That asks the question, “Why isn’t sexual slavery a feminist priority?”

      Why Isn’t Sexual Slavery a Feminist Priority?

      Sexual slavery isn’t a problem to spoiled brats because their short attention span is kept busy on micro aggressions that happen in their own personal space. They have become myopic. To open their eyes and raise them to the wide horizon long enough to perceive the horror that other women live with every day seems to be too much to ask of them. It’s so easy and convenient to search for micro aggressions and type out a fast attack on the perpetrator that will be passed around to others who feed off the drama. At the end of the day all we have is a bunch of sanctimonious virtue signalers who have accomplished nothing. Meanwhile women and children are raped every day as spoils of war.

    • Oh, it looks like the book IS out in America, but under a slightly different title: The Girl Who Escaped ISIS: This is My Story. I’m going to have to pick it up at the library tomorrow!

    • Who needs a war Laurie? Any opportunity will surely do. Something that surprised me ages ago, and that I still sometimes try to get my head around, is just how young girls on the street can be.

      Apparently slavery is such a problem here that billboards and other signage have gone up letting us know who to contact when we suspect it’s happening. Unfortunately the investigations are supposedly long and often unproductive. Still, they do occasionally make an arrest that gets into the news.

    • Yes Sean, I realize that we don’t need a war to cause rape of women and children in sexual slavery. The secretive nature of this activity must make it difficult to eliminate. If there are signs out then someone must be working on it. I wonder if the signs are from the police force/government or from a human rights group.

      We have these insidious problems here in the West and it disgusts me and we have to do better, but what is happening to the Yazidis and other groups of women and children who have the bad luck to encounter IS is a hideous human rights violation on a massive scale. The Yazidis are being tortured and decimated.

    • Sure, that was just a clumsy way to enter the conversation on my part. I looked into ways to help Yazidis specifically in order to atone and found a petition -yay! -not-

    • Just checked a copy out of the library!

    • This

      http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/08/05/isis-slave-price-list-genuine-united-nations-official_n_7939080.html

      A price list for females, priced like cars, with miles on the clock and for immediate use.

      “Dear Muslima” may have been an over response to Rebecca Watson’s observation about men in lifts after the break up of a 4am discussion in a hotel bar, but it remains a terrible charge laid at the feet of too many young feminists.

    • BTW Richard, it says in the book that Farida Khalaf is her real name, just that the picture on the book cover isn’t her.

    • Richard, What do you mean she wouldn’t be welcome in Nigel Farage’s Britain or Brexit Britain? Of course she would. She’s Yazidi! The whole non-Muslim world has been sympathetic to the Yazidis from the start of ISIS attacks. Even if she were Shia, or any type of Muslim that ISIS doesn’t approve of, the non-Muslim world would welcome her or any woman escaping the brutality of ISIS. It’s the hoards of single young male Muslim ‘refugees’ that everyone is most worried about letting in. You should remove the libelous remark about Farage.

    • Lallorona, It is you that does not understand. You should refrain from reading on this site if you disagree with
      someone and call for removal of a post or article.
      You don’t belong here if you believe what you just posted.

    • It’s the hoards of single young male Muslim ‘refugees’ that everyone is most worried about

      This does seem to be the group that contains the group that warrants the closest scrutiny. Don’t need to be a Brexiteer to see that. Strong efforts are needed on their education for integration into European culture, food and shelter are not enough.

      BTW is it libel to call Farage a dickhead? Just askin’.

    • Alf1200, Don’t just tell me that I don’t understand etc.. Tell me & others what you believe is true.

    • Alan4Discussion, One could name several legitimate problems mass immigration creates, especially Muslim immigration. But where in all of Farage’s criticisms of immigration does he show lack of sympathy for women like Farida Khalaf or people like the Yazidis who have been brutalized by ISIS? I believe Farage would react to Ms. Khalaf’s book with the same sympathy as Richard Dawkins & every other reasonable, decent person. I believe that people – particularly Farage’s political opponents – who say otherwise are just trying to falsely & negatively caricature Farage & UKIP.

    • LalLorna. Sorry. I won’t discuss the issue with you. If you disagree, you will want my post censored if you don’t like it.
      That’s the problem. Not the content.

    • I think I agree a bit with LALLORONA, despite the shouty name. I think the one part of the article by Richard that at first makes me uneasy is the comment on Farrage. I think from his 2013 anouncement that we should of course take refugees from Syria, to his rapid bollocking by his even scummier party, amending that to Christian refugees only and on through to THAT poster image, he seemed to start from a slightly better place and is reaping the whirlwind of his making.

      Richard’s observation in the end is fine because it is not directed at Farage, but Farage’s Britain. And whilst he may have a scintilla of decency his disgraceful political expediency on such moral matters is precisely to blame for a hateful party and mass movement.

    • Alan4Discussion & Alf1200, There are many legitimate problems caused by mass immigration, especially Muslim mass immigration, as Farage has pointed out. But I believe Farage would react to Ms. Khalaf’s book with the same sympathy as Richard Dawkins & any other reasonable, decent person. People who would say otherwise – especially Farage’s political opponents — are unfairly, negatively caricaturing Farage & UKIP. Alf1200, I wouldn’t call for censorship or retraction of your ideas just because I disagreed with them. I called for Richard to retract because I believe he was misunderstanding, & therefore misrepresenting, Farage’s ideas. It’s fair to criticize a person’s actual ideas but it’s not fair to misrepresent a person’s ideas, then criticize based on a misrepresentation.

    • Nope LALLORONA.

      He fairly criticised Farage’s Britain, the result’s of Farage’s political actions (and inactions!). Your point does not stand.

    • phil rimmer, My name is in all caps not to be shouty, but because several fonts make the lower case letter “l” look like “i”. All caps solves that.

    • LAL,

      The use of Syrian refugees in this poster

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/06/16/Farage_addresses_the_media_during_a_national_poste-large_trans++jJeHvIwLm2xPr27m7LF8mTWU-KwRaHvlaJXY1texVLQ.jpg

      as THE thing to be feared by UK voters, lands this sustained UK rise in global xenophobia as squarely at his door as anyone’s. Given his initial positive pronuncements on Syrian refugees in 2013, he has hypocritically presided over a bit of a moral catastrophe.

    • LALLORONA #25
      Aug 6, 2016 at 1:36 pm

      Alan4Discussion & Alf1200, There are many legitimate problems caused by mass immigration, especially Muslim mass immigration, as Farage has pointed out.

      No! There are many legitimate problems with mass immigration, but Farage’s babblings have very little to do with these.

      But I believe Farage would react to Ms. Khalaf’s book with the same sympathy as Richard Dawkins & any other reasonable, decent person.

      It does seem that your “beliefs” are based on wishful thinking rather than objective observations of the sort some of us have displayed in earlier discussion of Farage’s pronouncements on this site! – Particularly on his Pseudo-science and brexit claims – bearing in mind that despite an assortment of “Emperor’s new Clothes” claims of “wonderful benefits from brexit”, the term is still undefined, no plans are in place to deliver any benefits, The UK has NO qualified trade negotiators to arrange the supposedly wonderful deals, and MP and Euro MP brexiteers who had actually sought ANY expert advice from trade negotiators, on “improved” trade agreements with the 50 non-EU countries currently sharing EU arrangements, might have noticed that the UK government has NO qualified trade negotiators, and will need around 200 of of them if it ceases using EU services!

      People who would say otherwise – especially Farage’s political opponents — are unfairly, negatively caricaturing Farage & UKIP.

      Really?? I think you would need to produce examples and evidence to support that claim.
      UKIP have difficulty coming to agreements with anyone – including their own members and each other!
      The evidence is that they could not negotiate their way out of a paper bag – let along negotiate a multitude of international trade agreements!

      Alf1200, I wouldn’t call for censorship or retraction of your ideas just because I disagreed with them. I called for Richard to retract because I believe he was misunderstanding, & therefore misrepresenting, Farage’s ideas.

      Still no examples?

      It’s fair to criticize a person’s actual ideas but it’s not fair to misrepresent a person’s ideas, then criticize based on a misrepresentation.

      That would strawmanning – something which is discouraged an called out on this site.

      The are numerous examples of Farage as an irresponsible buffoon, who just acts on impulse, and blabs whatever comes into his head without letting any facts get in the way of his fanciful claims.

    • Phil Rimmer, I guess we deeply, fundamentally disagree. I find his use of the poster legitimate. There IS a breaking point for the resources, & threat to the culture, of countries who welcome mass immigration. As for the moral, humanitarian problem, Farage asks ‘why aren’t rich Muslim countries taking these Muslim refugees?’ Why indeed.

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    • LALLORONA:
      Farage asks ‘why aren’t rich Muslim countries taking these Muslim refugees?’

      That is not a moral argument and is politically loaded to further alienate the populace. Them. Their sort. They belong together.

      Stop digging.

      MODs I think this a fair topic given “Farage’s shameful Britain”. No?

    • Boris on ISIS, from Bravo for Assad – he is a vile tyrant but he has saved Palmyra from Isil:

      They are engaged in what can only be called genocide of the poor Yazidis (though for some baffling reason the Foreign Office still hesitates to use the term genocide).

      I wonder if the the foreign office will now be more eager to declare the atrocities against the Yazidis as genocide and hence make it easier for people like Farida to gain asylum in the UK.

    • Alan4discussion, Lallorona meant that Farage asks why Muslim countries don’t take in Muslim refugees in general, not Yazidis. Farage, Lallorona & most everyone else knows Yazidis would be pariahs in most Muslim countries. That’s partly why the non-Muslim world has had such sympathy for them. But thanks for the interesting details about Yazidis.

    • There seems to be some doubt (Comment #16) as to whether I was right to say Farida Khalaf is not her real name. Maybe the US edition says something different, but the Kindle edition that I bought from Amazon says the following at the beginning, under “AUTHOR’S NOTE”:

      Farida Khalif is not my real name, and I am not the girl pictured on the cover. I don’t want to show my face. The names of all the other people who appear in this book have been changed. The names of people in public life, however, are real.

    • There seems to be some doubt (Comment #16) as to whether I was right
      to say Farida Khalaf is not her real name. Maybe the US edition says
      something different, but the Kindle edition that I bought from Amazon
      says the following at the beginning, under “AUTHOR’S NOTE”:

      Farida Khalif is not my real name, and I am not the girl pictured on
      the cover. I don’t want to show my face. The names of all the other
      people who appear in this book have been changed. The names of people
      in public life, however, are real.

      Odd. This is what it says in the American edition:

      Although Farida Khalaf is my real name, I am not the girl pictured on the cover. I don’t want to show my face. The names of all the other people who appear in this book have been changed. The names of people in public life, however, are real.

      • IYFNY

        To answer your query about what happened to the first version of your comment, it had been set aside by the site’s spam detector for some reason. It doesn’t always get things right. We have now restored your comment and removed the duplicate of it.

        The mods

    • Thanks. It’s weird, I kept editing it to try to get the first blockquote to look like the second (ie, not smashed together), and after a few tries it marked it as SPAM. Weird.

    • Halfway through the book now. This story reminds me of so many accounts I’ve read about the Armenian Genocide. Unbelievable that shit like this still goes on.

    • Inyourfacenyer……We are truly still animals. Some a lot more than others……

    • Not “still”. Why would we be anything else? At any rate, we’re not too different from chimpanzees: We form groups, we travel in groups, and we kill other groups.

    • His long “wait” had been while Farida was incapacitated by her
      attempted suicide after he bought her, cutting her wrists with a
      broken bottle, the only weapon she could procure.

      This disgusting scene, about 3/4 of the way through the book, was actually after she had been hospitalized when one of the men beat her horrendously after she had attempted to hang herself. She had to go to the hospital to get X-rays and an MRI. The broken-bottle scene was much earlier in the book. Either way, point taken. It’s beyond sickening.

      An MRI… They use 21st century technology amid bronze-age “culture”. Is the irony lost on these disgusting monsters????

    • I’ve just finished… Wow…!

    • The women’s chess championships are being held in Iran for some reason, and all competitors are expected to wear hijab. Many, including the US champ, are not going in protest.
      One of the organisers, a retired competitor, was quoted as saying “she would not have an issue with wearing one out of respect for a country’s culture”, which nearly made me choke on my breakfast at the doublethink and hypocrisy.

      (If this seems off topic, just connect the dots between forced wearing of hijab/burka and sexual slavery, it’s not so hard.)